Now that his club team Loyola has been invited to the Singapore Cup, a foreign club competition, he will be able to play with his team, as it is not covered by the PFF.
But I have a gut feeling the PFF still has a bad eye over Matt. That questionable decision by the Disciplinary Committee could make its way to his club's stint in the foreign tournament.
The worst scenario we might expect is that the PFF will send a hold-departure order to Loyola or the Singapore FA banning Matt to be with the team in Singapore, citing his suspension case due to his SEA Games dereliction. That I don't want to happen.
I will definitely encourage people to send a protest if a situation like this would happen. That would be justice too much.
Last Edit: May 4, 2012 23:18:27 GMT 8 by stellarboy
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PFF Appeals Committee upholds suspension on footballer Matthew Hartmann by rick olivares
Matthew Hartmann will be suspended for the period of January to December 2012 and will be banned from participation from the Philippine Men's Football National Team. That was the verdict promulgated by the Appeals Committee of the Philippine Football Federation yesterday after the PFF's Disciplinary Committee released its decision to suspend Hartmann last January 25.
Hartmann was suspended for abandoning the national team during the stint in the last Southeast Asian Games in Jakarta, Indonesia. Hartmann said that he left due to a row with national team head coach Michael Weiss.
In a letter to PFF President Mariano V. Araneta with Loyola authorities copied in the letter, Appeals Committee Chairman, Atty. Gregorio Larrazabal decided "to affirm the decision of the Disciplinary Committee in imposing a ban on Mr. Hartmann in joining the national team; and to modify the decision of the Disciplinary Committee in its decision imposing an indefinite ban on any football club or organization from fielding him in any PFF sanctioned tournaments, and limits the ban to one year, to be reckoned from the date of the Decision of the Disciplinary Committee. The period, for which the case was pending before the Appeals Committee, is to be considered as a portion of the period of the ban."
Loyola Meralco club president Lorenzo Roxas was disappointed with the decision as he felt that "the club suspension has no basis." With Loyola missing its two Korean players -- midfielders Jeong Byeong-Yeol and Park Min-Ho -- due to dengue, Roxas was looking forward to have Hartmann back in time for the club's match with Kaya this weekend as well as for next week when the Sparks compete in the first leg of the Singapore Cup against Geylang United on May 18.
Hartmann said he will air his side in a few days' time.
Should worse come to worst upon this decision by the Appeals Committee, Matt and Loyola Meralco Sparks have the option to file a counter-affidavit to a Regional Trial Court to challenge the decision, citing a lack of basis and substance over the decision to ban him from club duty. They can therefore file an administrative case against Atty. Larrazabal and Mr. Nonong Araneta for violating Section 8 and Section 9 of Rule XXIII, Book V, of the Omnibus Rules Implementing the Labor Code of the Philippines. What the PFF Disciplinary Committee did to Hartmann after the ban from national team duty was a "preventive suspension" to club duty, which according to law should only last thirty (30) working days.
The provision states that "[the] employer may place the worker concerned under preventive suspension only if his continued employment poses a serious and imminent threat to the life or property of the employer or of his co-workers." This may be true if the complaint prior to the suspension pointed out to the row with the Green Archers football team after Matt returned to the Philippines. However, Meralco Sparks did not do such thing, and it could be a work of the PFF to tell the club to suspend him for this.
If this legal action does not work, they can go up to the Court of Appeals, the Supreme Court and the Court of Arbitration for Sport citing unjust suspension from club duty due to a ban from national team duty, which is essentially a breach of the country's labor laws.
This could become a legal war between Loyola and the PFF, which I think must be the most proper action to challenge this one-year suspension against Matt Hartmann. If anything, this could start a labor union agenda amongst UFL players in support of Matt.
Last Edit: May 10, 2012 4:18:14 GMT 8 by stellarboy
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Hartmann suspended for a year Wednesday, 09 May 2012 19:27 Rick Olivares / Columnist E-mail Print PDF
MATTHEW HARTMANN has been suspended for the rest of 2012 and will be banned from the Azkals for abandonment of the national team.
The Appeals Committee of the Philippine Football Federation (PFF) handed the decision on Wednesday after the PFF’s Disciplinary Committee decided to suspend Hartmann on January 25.
Hartmann was suspended for abandoning the national team during its stint in the Southeast Asian Games in Jakarta, Indonesia. Hartmann claimed he left the team because of a row with national team head coach Michael Weiss.
In a letter to PFF President Mariano Araneta, a copy of which was also given to Loyola team officials, Appeals Committee Chairman Atty. Gregorio Larrazabal decided “to affirm the decision of the Disciplinary Committee in imposing a ban on Mr. Hartmann in joining the national team; and to modify the decision of the Disciplinary Committee in its decision imposing an indefinite ban on any football club or organization from fielding him in any PFF sanctioned tournaments, and limits the ban to one year, to be reckoned from the date of the Decision of the Disciplinary Committee.
The decision furthered: “The period, for which the case was pending before the Appeals Committee, is to be considered as a portion of the period of the ban.”
Loyola Meralco club president Lorenzo Roxas was disappointed with the decision as he felt that “the club suspension has no basis.”
With Loyola missing its two Korean players—midfielders Jeong Byeong-yeol and Park Min-ho—because of dengue, Roxas was looking forward to having Hartmann back in time for the club’s match in the United Football League with Kaya this weekend as well as for next week when the Sparks compete in the first leg of the Singapore Cup against Geylang United on May 18.
Hartmann said he will air his side in two days’ time.
Legally I think he has a good case. But the truth is that for Loyola, he is not worth the trouble of fighting for. The club needs to be under the good graces of the PFF given that there's a lot of personnel intermixing between the UFL and PFF. If Matthew goes at it, he should expect to go at it alone and not have the support of UFL or Loyola. Other than that, I do think that legally he has a good case.
LIKE I said in a previous post, the PFF made the villain, former U23 captain Matthew Hartmann, the victim by barring him from being able to work in the United Football League for an infraction involving the national team.
I can understand the anger against Hartmann’s act, abandoning the national team in the Southeast Asian Games and I guess a lifetime ban from playing for the flag was a justified reaction from the PFF.
But a ban, too, in club football action? That’s a cruel punishment, don’t you think? And even the guys who hate Hartmann’s guts for what he did, think so.
And that speaks a lot.
Sure, the PFF Appeals Committee has lowered the club football suspension from a lifetime ban, to a one-year ban, including time served, but for me, even a one-match ban in club football is one too many.
For me, I think if the ban also covered tournaments organized by the PFF, then that would have been just, too. But for all tournaments sanctioned by the PFF? That’s way too much.
The suspicious guy in me kind of thinks Matt is being used as a pawn, to prove that in the Philippines, the PFF is the god of football—piss them off, and you piss your livelihood goodbye. This act is tantamount to the PFF telling the UFL, we decide who plays in your league.
Remember Les Bleus? And the farce of a protest during the World Cup in South Africa? Most of the guys were barred from national team duties, some were made to pay a fine, too. But it never occurred to France’s football federation, to bar them too, from club duties. Ricardo Carvalho also abandoned Portugal’s training camp and got a one-year ban from the national team for his efforts but no word on club suspension, too.
This is such an unprecedented penalty that the closest thing to compare it to is say, having the Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas suspend a Smart Gilas player from playing in the PBA for a year for an infraction in an international match.
Of course, that wouldn’t happen because of the politics of the basketball world, where the professional league yields more power than the governing body, unless of course, MVP, who is involved in both the PBA and the SBP, steps in.
But in the case of Philippine football? The professional league, while gaining ground in the public consciousness, plays second fiddle to the PFF.
If he wants to, Matt will have a case if he decides to challenge this decision in the appropriate body, but will it be worth it? It took almost six months for the initial decision to come out, will his appeal take another six months too?
And if he does get a favorable decision, would the PFF be compelled to shoulder his back wages?
Curiously though, the one-year suspension from PFF-related activities also reminds me of the case of a couple of players, who, in theory, should also be suspended from all PFF-sanctioned tournaments for a year, but has played in tournaments not sanctioned by the PFF, even the UFL.
Like I said, the villain has been made the victim, and during all of this uncertainty, you have to commend Hartmann and Loyola for honoring the PFF decision, because I think, they’re the first club that I know who did so.
There has been a lot of suspensions from PFF-related activities in the past, where guys who faced such bans get to play in another event. In theory, all football tournaments in the country should be sanctioned by the PFF, but that’s not the case in reality. So, we’ve had guys who got banned playing in a tournament, whose organizers didn’t bother to ask the blessing of the FA, and by extension, the PFF.
Anyway, now that the PFF has handed down its decision, I hope, it will act as decisively on other cases that I think deserves a ban, and I mean those that involve cheating and violence in PFF-organized tournaments.
Not doing so, make it seems, they have an axe to grind against Matt.
Hartmann club suspension reduced to one year; ban from Azkals stands InterAKTV · Wednesday, May 9, 2012 · 11:37 pm
The Appeals Committee of the Philippine Football Federation has softened the ban on Loyola Meralco Sparks midfielder Matthew Hartmann from competing in the group’s sanctioned tournaments, but upheld its ban on the player from suiting up for the national team.
Business Mirror reported on Wednesday night that the committee released the decision in a letter to the PFF. Gregorio Larrazabal, the chairman of the committee, said in the letter that it had decided “to affirm the decision of the Disciplinary Committee in imposing a ban on Mr. Hartmann in joining the national team; and to modify the decision of the Disciplinary Committee in its decision imposing an indefinite ban on any football club or organization from fielding him in any PFF sanctioned tournaments, and limits the ban to one year, to be reckoned from the date of the Decision of the Disciplinary Committee.”
Hartmann was suspended by the PFF Disciplinary Committee on January 25, rendering him ineligible to join the national team and from competing in any tournament sanctioned by the PFF.
His suspension came as a result of his departure from the Philippine Under-23 national team in the midst of the Southeast Asian Games football tournament last year. Hartmann, the captain of the squad, abandoned the team after a disagreement with coach Hans Michael Weiss.
The United Football League, wherein Loyola competes, is a PFF-sanctioned tournament.
The Appeals Committee added in its letter that the period from which the case was pending would count toward the suspension, meaning Hartmann would be eligible to play for the Sparks again on January 25, 2013.
The PFF sent Loyola a letter telling the club not to play Matthew Hartmann. right after the last practice.
This is STUPID and I think all of you already said why this decision is wrong(club & country). Im not a big fan of Matt Hartmann, I dont know the guy, but as a fan what can we do so that this same thing wont happend to other player?
I have a couple of question for people who may know more than me:
1. Based on the books, Can PFF really BAN a player from playing for club?
2.What kind of relationship does PFF and UFL have? I tot UFL is not a recognized league by PFF, thats why we cannot consider it a semi-pro league yet?
3. Can Matt Hartman file a case in court like "depriving him to work" kinda case?
4. Does PFF have the authority to as Loyala not to field him at Singapore?
PFF bars Matthew Hartmann’s inclusion in Loyola for Singapore Cup Francis Respicio, News5 · Saturday, May 19, 2012 · 6:12 pm
The Loyola Meralco Sparks were happy with their historic victory over Geylang United FC in their opening match in the 2012 Singapore Cup Friday night.
But there was a bit of bad news for the club after it received notice from the Philippine Football Federation barring midfielder Matthew Hartmann from playing in the match, a day before kickoff.
Hartmann has been suspended by the Philippine Football Federation for a year from its sanctioned events because of his departure from the national team in last year’s Southeast Asian Games in the middle of the tournament. The suspension prevents Hartmann from suiting up for Loyola in the United Football League, a PFF-sanctioned competition.
The Loyola braintrust thought that the Singapore Cup stint was not covered by the PFF ban on Hartmann, who was included in the lineup for the game. The football body, however, had a different interpretation.
“Since they allowed Sparks to join the RHB Singapore Cup, they are interpreting it as a sanction by them,” wrote Roxas in a text message to News5.
“We were caught off-guard. The players were disappointed.”
Hartmann was also depressed by the PFF’s decision, but Roxas said this became the Sparks’ extra motivation to win the match.
The PFF Disciplinary Committee chaired by Gregorio Larrazabal said in a letter earlier this month that it had decided “to affirm the decision of the Disciplinary Committee in imposing a ban on Mr. Hartmann in joining the national team; and to modify the decision of the Disciplinary Committee in its decision imposing an indefinite ban on any football club or organization from fielding him in any PFF sanctioned tournaments, and limits the ban to one year, to be reckoned from the date of the Decision of the Disciplinary Committee.”
Roxas said that if the PFF wanted to stop Hartmann from playing for the Sparks, the federation should have extended the suspension to tournaments sanctioned by the Asian Football Confederation and the Fédération Internationale de Football Association (FIFA).
Loyola will appeal Hartmann’s case before the PFF, as the Sparks are set to play in the RHB Cup quarterfinals in July.
News5 has sought PFF president Mariano Araneta’s comment on the matter, but he could not be reached.
delubyo69: huh...bakit binawi ata?
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myers: pinoy, any livecommentary for Global Manila - AirForce game?
May 23, 2013 20:17:42 GMT 8
Caz: Malditas goal disallowed. FT THA 1-0 PHI
May 23, 2013 23:10:42 GMT 8
stealthStriker: The goal never went in daw... just a clerical error. false alarm.
May 24, 2013 10:21:28 GMT 8
stealthStriker: *the ball i mean
May 24, 2013 10:21:43 GMT 8
stealthStriker: Thai's goal was an offside according to ph malditas coach. if you see the match report, the Thai's really struggled, and they're are playing physical as shown by those 4 yellow cards. Well just like their Mens NT.
May 24, 2013 10:25:18 GMT 8