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Post by kuo24 on Sept 6, 2017 10:09:41 GMT 8
I was let down too since we were playing catch-up for most of the match. It just seems like our team is struggling to make the leap to the next level.
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Post by cypher210 on Sept 6, 2017 12:15:51 GMT 8
i feel like they always get caught on their heels on counterattacks.
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Post by iniestafan on Sept 6, 2017 14:40:06 GMT 8
I was let down too since we were playing catch-up for most of the match. It just seems like our team is struggling to make the leap to the next level. I think we should give credit where its due. Yemen is a good team, no doubt about it, plus were missing KEY players such as Sato, Aguinaldo and Patiño. The 2 mentioned earlier Sato and Aguinaldo could have made a big difference in defending if they were there. Javi can create more opportunities. If they were, it could hav been a different result on our favor.
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Post by raptours on Sept 6, 2017 20:27:49 GMT 8
Not a disaster, but disappointing. We should be putting away teams like this. This is a home game, we've had months to prepare, and still we can't put this team away. Granted it wasn't our absolutely best team especially since Patino did not play, but the lineup was pretty good. Good thing we still have the Younghusband brothers. They produce when we most need it. That's the mark of good, mentally tough players. yes, we've had months to prepare, but we didn't. That's the problem.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2017 21:48:12 GMT 8
I was let down too since we were playing catch-up for most of the match. It just seems like our team is struggling to make the leap to the next level. Posted by cypher210 9 hours ago i feel like they always get caught on their heels on counterattacks. Guys, we are now witnessing a team that's getting old, getting so used to each other, that the youthful drive to play hard together is disappearing. Remember the Spanish NT of 2008, 2010 and 2012, the best team ever assembled with the players: Iker Casillas, Gerard Piqué , Carles Puyol, Andrés Iniesta, David Villa, Xavi, Fernando Torres, Cesc Fàbregas, Juan Mata , Xabi Alonso, Sergio Ramos and David Silva. But 2 years later, however, they were eliminated from the group stage of the 2014 World Cup. All national teams goes through this process and it needed the infusion of new talents, younger players to recreate that youthful enthusiasm, drive and chemistry that was lost. Now, the Spanish NT is exciting again wiith Isco, Asensio, Koke, Vazquez and Morata. Now here's my question to the group. How long can we sustain infusing the team with new, young talents by totally depending on foreign trained, half-Filipinos in Europe? The well is getting dry, folks. We have already used the "creme of the crop", we are now scraping the bottom sludge. The only solution is grassroots, youth program that makes sense, just what the Icelanders did. Read: www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/icelands-secret-success-just-changed-7004162.amp
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Post by xyz1000 on Sept 7, 2017 8:14:31 GMT 8
Just saw the extended highlights. As I expected, the Azkals looked the better team and had more good chances than Yemen. It could easily have been 4-2 for the Azkals but for some unconverted opportunities. As for Yemen's goals, one came from a mistake or misjudgement from #2 who jumped but didn't redirect the corner kick leading to a very low header that made it to goal. The second came from a mistake from Etheridge (I'll say 75% to him) who hesitated in kicking the ball or misjudged the speed thinking it would go to the box faster. That may have to do with a bad bounce or bad field, at least compared to what he's used to in the Championship. Add to that #14 (I'll say 25% accountable for the goal) who did not mark the oncoming player. That's what beat him to the ball.
It's good to see the Azkals play better than Yemen, and disappointing to see them come up with just a draw. There will be games like this, certainly, even for the best teams in the world. That it came against Yemen makes it doubly disappointing because they've beaten us before.
As for a team that's getting old and have lost the drive, nothing could be further from reality. Aside from the Younghusband brothers and Etheridge (GKs don't fall into the old category anyway, until they hit late 30s), and Mulders, and de Murga, everybody else have been around less than six years.
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Post by delver on Sept 7, 2017 13:27:32 GMT 8
We should expect both teams to be more prepared in the next game on October. Hopefully Sato can join in and wreak havoc on both defense and offense. I was really hoping they would do a short corner attempt after James' goal but as far as I can remember they didn't. We should utilize the element of surprise in our attack especially when competing against a defensive team.
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Post by kuo24 on Sept 7, 2017 23:56:04 GMT 8
An underappreciated move was Dooley bringing in youngsters De Bruycker, Foll, Matas & Grommen. Though they didn't play, their experience with the national team will help their confidence.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2017 0:51:14 GMT 8
An underappreciated move was Dooley bringing in youngsters De Bruycker, Foll, Matas & Grommen. Though they didn't play, their experience with the national team will help their confidence. I cannot understand why we consider this an exciting move by Dooley, calling in this foreign trained, half Filipinos (they do not even have Filipino last names), and not even complain and call out the PFF Youth Program's performance for 2017. i.e. . U15 AFF Championship Philippines U15 was 10th. in a field of 12 countries with -11 GD . U23 2019 Qualifier Philippines U23 was at the bottom lost all games at -11 GD . Sea 2017 Games Philippines U22 was 7th. in a field of 12 SEA countries at -6 GD . U18 AFF Championship Philippines U18 just get trashed by Indonesia 9-0, and even a lost to weakest Brunei 3-2, and will probably lose to both Vietnam and Myanmar (Sep. 9,11) PFF hired "Chiefy" to coach the U15 (great move??), have Coach Maro and Aberasturi for the U22,U23 and U18, (both have outstanding resume as coaches??) Give me a break!! The bottom line here is that our SouthEast Asian neighbors have a future in football with their next generations, while we keep on looking for that foreign trained, half Filipinos, who is not even good. And if I mention anything bad about those half-Filipinos, I'm black listed, postings removed. They use France as an example of a national team composed of black Africans, but failed to mention that those Africans were born in France or a french territory. Pogba, Martial, Kante, Matuidi were all born in France.
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Post by cypher210 on Sept 8, 2017 1:22:09 GMT 8
An underappreciated move was Dooley bringing in youngsters De Bruycker, Foll, Matas & Grommen. Though they didn't play, their experience with the national team will help their confidence. to the eyes of some people, these players you named are still from overseas since they were picked up from somewhere else. The state of football in the Philippines is pretty sad. the PMNT level is sustained by the influx of fil-foreign players but the youth teams aren't up to par with the rest of the region. I do believe that proper grassroots programs would help get over that hump but its not going to be overnight. With players from overseas, they would sustain the level we're at until we get to produce better homegrown players. without these fil-foreign players, the state of football in the Philippines would plunge down. i think this short term patch would help but we should also produce better coaches for the grassroots who can properly train the youth. the PFF should have check and balances to minimize politics within the org. I believe that on short term, hiring people from the outside as youth team coaches would definitely curb the politics that prevent deserving potential youth players to be called-up. They can stop hiring foreign coaches until someone really deserves that job. with both overseas scouting and proper grassroots locally, i believe this would get us over the hump. It will probably take awhile to raise the bar again, but i hope the level of football there goes up. i dunno just my two cents..
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2017 1:43:22 GMT 8
Coaching and a well managed youth program is the key, as mentioned in the Iceland article I posted earlier. But for U15, I would probably agree that a 14 y/o in Germany or Spain will be much better than a 14 y/o from Bacolod. But I will not accept that same will be true for a 14 y/o from Vietnam, Thailand, Indonesia or Myanmar. We should be able to compete with the proper coaching, that after 3 yrs of coaching they should not be trashed by Indonesia 9-0.
OK, we have to look for foreign trained, half-Filipinos while the youth program gets into gear. WHEN!, they just hire Chiefy to coach the U15 (a very important starting point). PFF does not care, as long as Palami have a crew of scouts looking for that foreigner. example englishscout.
The only rational I could think of, is that the PFF coaching budget is totally wasted to pay Dooley, so they have to hire Chiefy, Maro and Aberasturi for almost free. You get what you pay for!
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Post by cypher210 on Sept 8, 2017 3:51:55 GMT 8
I dunno how much is Dooley making being the coach of the senior team, but all could say is that he is transformed the team into what it is now. they have a longer time of possession, longer than ever before. from what i have seen, he actually implements a game plan whether the opposing team team is superior or not. it sucks that he won't have the next batch of player that are as good as what they have right now. thats where half-filipinos come in to sustain that level. they really just have to fix the youth programs here by hiring better coaches. youth improvement doesn't happen over night either. the teams usually pick the best players available, if the local kid isn't really up to the level of the foreign trained player available, why not let the foreign trained player play until the local kid catch up with them. it also happens with locals also, deserving players don't get selected. As for the senior level and u23, a local u23 player is not up to par with the senior level. I don't think the PFF would want to bring the senior team's level of play down. they would look for player outside until local players catch up.
lets say dooley is making far more than the rest of the coaches, does that mean we should get rid of him in order to be able to find better youth team coaches? whats gonna happen to the senior team if he leaves?
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Post by cebujames on Sept 8, 2017 21:09:38 GMT 8
Grassroots program needs to change. Like all aspects of it. Coaches need to be in-line from PMNT to the U-Teams. In five years or so, we can definitely see positive results.
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