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Post by stingray11214 on Dec 3, 2018 6:26:47 GMT 8
Some observations: we had some good runs forward. We were better in the first half. Tull is a revelation at RB and I think Schrock played the best here. We were dominated after that second goal. Vietnamese players rarely dribble when they go forward. We really need more energy in the final third, a striker who could run in and out to muddle the opposing defense and make himself or the others open. The team seems to let the passer solve this problem himself instead of his teammates creating the options for him. There are a couple of moments where JYH (or was it PYH?) was standing right there at the edge of the box clearly offside and just waiting for the ball. Reichelt is alright but he plays more like a winger. Best thing that the team could do is make the defense quicker and more organized and hope for two miraculously unanswered goals in My Dinh. This. Very much this. But, this is what you get when you have four different Gaffers in six months. And, the current one is an interim for all intents and purposes. Eriksson is on a five month deal. So, what is he going to leave? How is his vision going to apply with so little time? The alarm bells should have been screaming when we let Timor Lests come back. We went from a somewhat cohesive unit into a group of eleven players. The only good thing that came out of this match is that the boys put a goal past Vietnam. Fine. However, what is going to happen January 7th when we play South Korea? Eriksson really needs to do something, otherwise all the work that was put in over ten years will be for nothing.
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Post by stingray11214 on Dec 6, 2018 2:10:07 GMT 8
Malaysia advances 2-2 on the Away Goal Rule. Adisak missed a Penalty on the last kick of the match.
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Post by 6studs on Dec 6, 2018 20:31:19 GMT 8
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Post by xyz1000 on Dec 6, 2018 20:33:02 GMT 8
any livestream links?
[edit ] answered -- thanks.
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Post by miron on Dec 6, 2018 21:34:52 GMT 8
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Post by jflo022688 on Dec 6, 2018 23:51:30 GMT 8
Shrock was a beast in midfield but he eventually ignoring the left wing where Ramsay was overlapping and he opted to go to the right wing and it was congested coz P.R was a marked man. I just thought if wing backs had some moments with the ball. For sure they have some good crosses on the box.
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Post by jflo022688 on Dec 6, 2018 23:54:25 GMT 8
What if we had a different formation? Like 5-3-2-1 with ramsay and steuble playing a box to box role. Would it made aa difference?
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Post by cjeagle on Dec 7, 2018 0:56:50 GMT 8
FT 2nd leg Vietnam 2-1 Philippines agg 4-2
The loss of key players Etheridge, Sato, Strauss, Palla, Woodridge due to club commitments and injury, most of whom were starters just before the semifinals, handicapped them a lot when facing Vietnam, a young team that finished runner up in AFC U23 Asian Championships and the semifinals of the Asian Games this year. The good news is that all of these players will probably be available for the Asian Cup in January.
Vietnam lived up to its FIFA rankings as the highest rated team in the ASEAN region and will now face suprising Malaysia in the finals where they will be favored to win it all.
As for the Azkals, The Suzuki Cup served its purpose as a preparatory tournament to the Asian Cup. I believe they will have a few more friendlies lined up including if I remember reading it right a few weeks ago, possibly a rematch against Vietnam just before the tournament.
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Post by pilferpatchy on Dec 7, 2018 8:51:11 GMT 8
We had a better match last night but Vietnam really has the technique and discipline to match our play. In the first half they expected us to attack so they spread their defense, overloaded their final third and neutralize our flanks. Reichelt couldn't make a proper run on the right side. It's another good performance by Schrock but that's that. We had Ramsay and Tull who made crosses and high passes into the box hoping it would connect to a teammate. I think we had at least six excellent crosses. We defended better here than in the first leg but as soon as De Murga was subbed out, we conceded. We could've had Amani earlier in the tournament but that's for the coaching staff to rue for, seeing he made important interceptions here stepping up to complement a tired Silva.
This is a semis finish. Despite being undermanned, we managed to get into the semis undefeated. We improved, and that's the important thing.
Congrats to JYH in his 100th.
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Post by xyz1000 on Dec 8, 2018 1:49:43 GMT 8
Vietnam played a very good game. Fast and accurate passing. This was probably the best performance of a team that I have ever seen in the Suzuki Cup, and I've watched some games dating back to before 2010. Defense was good, passing was good, and players were fit enough to be running fast all the way to the end. Having said that, the Azkals weren't far behind. They, too, were very organized, especially with the defense. The two goals at the end were the result of breakdowns, but there were not that many of those. Their passing was just as good if not better, they dictated the tempo of the game they wanted to play (slower), and they had their share of quality chances. They just came up a little short.
Congratulations to Vietnam.
I've always been critical of the Suzuki Cup because it's a tournament that doesn't showcase the best the Azkals can possibly be. Some of our players had to leave because of club commitments, and the schedule is not on FIFA designated international dates. Players in clubs abroad are not likely to be released, especially if they're important. The way I see it, the Suzuki Cup is a tournament for the local-based players in the country leagues. That's how this tournament should be viewed. It's no secret that many of our national team players learned their skill abroad, and it's great that many of them play in the PFL. I hope that many more come "home" to play and to encourage and raise the level of play of those learning their skills in the Philippines. But this is not the best team. No Etheridge, no Patino, no Sato, no Strauss, no Palla. (Yes, I know Patino is supposedly injured, but I can't help but be suspicious on the timing of these injuries he has had in the last two Suzuki Cups)
I can envision that in the future, many more of our best players will be playing in leagues abroad. That's the trend I see. Just imagine for a moment that we have three or four players (we already have one) playing in the Premiership, La Liga, Bundesliga, Serie A or Ligue 1. It's the end of an even numbered year, and the Suzuki Cup is in full gear. Where would these three of four players be playing?
Take it for what it is -- the Suzuki Cup is a great tournament for those in the Southeast Asian country leagues.
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Post by zlatan01025 on Dec 9, 2018 16:03:43 GMT 8
I reviewed the game of Azkals vs Oman and I noticed that we are much better in that game compared to the games in the Suzuki Cup (except the game vs Thailand). I wonder if the sudden change of coach influence the game play of the Azkals. Coach Scott prefers 3-5-2 while coach Sven prefers 4-4-2. The Azkals are playing well in that 3-5-2 formation.
But we also need to consider that the team were in the disadvantage when we faced Vietnam since we only had 18 players. If we have a complete line-up, the results wouldn't be like that for sure. Anyway, I'm still optimistic on this team and I am excited for the upcoming Asian Cup. We will go through the second round if we perform well vs China and Kyrgyzstan.
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Post by cebujames on Dec 11, 2018 4:36:57 GMT 8
I reviewed the game of Azkals vs Oman and I noticed that we are much better in that game compared to the games in the Suzuki Cup (except the game vs Thailand). I wonder if the sudden change of coach influence the game play of the Azkals. Coach Scott prefers 3-5-2 while coach Sven prefers 4-4-2. The Azkals are playing well in that 3-5-2 formation. But we also need to consider that the team were in the disadvantage when we faced Vietnam since we only had 18 players. If we have a complete line-up, the results wouldn't be like that for sure. Anyway, I'm still optimistic on this team and I am excited for the upcoming Asian Cup. We will go through the second round if we perform well vs China and Kyrgyzstan. As I was saying, 4-4-2 seems to be overrated. Although, Sven is using it in a unique way. They have a roaming Schrock, a def-mid Strauss and a CAM Ott. It's just our Forwards that are having a hard time. I am positive of our team come Asian Cup though. All are gonna be available, expect maybe Patino and Palla which I wish will all be there.
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Post by cilantro on Dec 11, 2018 14:46:34 GMT 8
It's Back to the drawing board for us. I was pretty much disheartened when i learned that falkesgaard was sitting it out the 2nd fixture. malabo na talaga.
At least there's a new fil-danish gk coming into town. Maybe we'll see a competent reserve to man the goal if Neil and falkesgaard aren't available next month.
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Post by xyz1000 on Dec 12, 2018 8:52:11 GMT 8
Malaysia 2:2 Vietnam
The crowned champion all comes down to the last game in Vietnam on Saturday.
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Post by cjeagle on Dec 16, 2018 11:07:03 GMT 8
AFF Suzuki Cup 2018 winners to face Asian giants Korea Republic in inaugural Champions Trophy Asian heavyweights Korea Republic are set to face the winners of the AFF Suzuki Cup 2018 final between Malaysia or Vietnam in March 2019. A Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) was signed between the ASEAN Football Federation (AFF) and East Asian Football Federation (EAFF) regarding this in a meeting held at Hanoi in Vietnam on December 15. According to the MoU, the winners of the AFF Suzuki Cup will now play the winners of the EAFF E-1 Football Championship in a new competition that has been named the AFF-EAFF Champions Trophy and will be held every two years. www.foxsportsasia.com/football/asian-football/aff-suzuki-cup/998839/south-korea-winners-aff-suzuki-cup-2018-malaysia-vietnam-new-champions-trophy/?fbclid=IwAR3z7j3LoAynaEUfH27TRqvX9i-LaONgP47D3xYEwlSSsjTod9iTco8G8IwToo bad the Philippines won't be involved this time, but this certainly ups the ante and will help motivate all AFF teams in winning the AFF Suzuki Cup in the future. Perhaps Australia might even join next time.
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