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Post by cjeagle on May 20, 2011 13:37:42 GMT 8
This is not the first time Henson interviewed Cutillas in the past and the same old tired arguments as you read above was brought up. Juan complained in the past of the lack of public and private support for football. Now that we have it, he should be grateful to the players that brought this about. After all, he was one of those players brought here along time ago from Spain to bring football to the mainstream. Just because this generation of players were able to accomplish what he and his fellow Spaniards were not able to decades ago, doesn't mean he should be so bitter about it.
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Post by ceburoo on May 20, 2011 18:31:42 GMT 8
badleftfoot My belief is Henson interviews that guy just to have that spike. You'd think that having been a sports journalist for such a long time that he'd know how backwards JC's ideas are. But I guess that's how he rolls. I dont know how old Henson is but maybe they are birds of a feather with the same visions. Cutilas WAS a good coach but I think his comments currently just show how far from reality he is in this new era of Philippine football
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Post by sorin on May 27, 2011 19:25:09 GMT 8
Cutillas can argue on couple of points no doubt when it comes to fil foreigners for the U/etc teams but at senior level he should not even bring it up as the fact of the matter is that any player that is eligible should play on merit alone. Germany, Croatia, Portugal etc etc are using players of different races and nationality as at the national level winning is the No 1 priority nothing else matters. As for the foreigner Coaches argument for U/19s again he misfires and make no sense to me I am with him on the Germany trip is an unnecessary waste of money regardless who pays for it. Due to different conditions weather and style of play in Germany I would have gone to Japan or Korea even North Korea or China for stiff opposition with the final week in India for acclimatization would have the perfect preparation for me. As for that article written by Rick Olivares I seem hard to get what is he on about??? "I noticed that Asians in general have a hard time accepting foreign born players in their team. It has been accepted practice in football in Europe since the beginning..” What does he mean by that? There are foreign players everywhere in Asia. Good Foreign players cost a lot of money and Europe is by far the richest and every good foreigner want to play in Europe except the has been’s Over the hill ex internationals that want to make few extra dollars. And the young South Americans/Africans/Aussies that could not go to Europe and or want to use Asia as the springboard or to make a buck Even at the International level the mighty “nationalist” Japan had Brazilian born players play for them If he refers to the Asian fans non acceptance of foreigner players, well that is a floored argument as well because there are many Europeans that hate the foreign players playing there just the same and you will have that for many years to come as long as racist, selfish and ignorant people grace this planet no doubt. He goes on with his name dropping and that is ok as we got the point after 3 4 examples were he comes from….. than he closes with: “In contrast our players from abroad come here sometimes at their own expense to play for our national team for love of country and for love of football. Can this other countries who criticize us say the same?" Other countries who criticize us? Which countries is he referring to??
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Post by cjeagle on May 27, 2011 19:58:11 GMT 8
sorin,
You are apparently a little confused. Rick Olivares wrote an article, which you can read by clicking the highlighted text, back in December during the Suzuki Cup run, in response to criticism by our SEA neighbors about the use of acc. to them "naturalized players from abroad" by the Philippines. Obviously, they did not realize that all of our players have Filipino blood through their parents, and entitled to automatic citizenship and were not naturalized. That is the context when the article was written.
Those comments that you have read here was written by me, not by Rick, to highlight the fact that using players from abroad to reinforce your team is common and accepted practice esp. in Europe from the very beginning. My comments was well received at the time of its writing as most comments were in the same vein. That is the context that you should consider when reading the article and comments it elicited.
This criticism of the use of players based abroad in the national team comes up every once in a while, and sometimes our fellow Filipinos have to be reminded how common this practice is in other countries and giving examples always help in convincing others why it should be accepted as well in our team.
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Post by sorin on May 28, 2011 9:08:27 GMT 8
CJ
Thanks for clearing it up Got it now
All good
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Post by cjeagle on May 28, 2011 9:29:16 GMT 8
To provide another example of how our neighbors are now using players based abroad. Here is the provisional roster of the Timor Leste team that they have called up for the WC qualifiers in June:
GK, 14, Rodrigo Cruz, November 13,1984, GD Mealhada, (Portugal) plus 2 other local goalkeepers.
DF 2, Cabita Lebere, August 15, 1980, FC Rusa Fuik (Timor Leste)
DF 6, Chris Nunes, January 6, 1985, Marconi Stallions FC ( Australia)
DF 10, De Jesus, August 10, 1987, FC Porto Taibesi ( Timor Leste)
DF 12, Afonso Carson, May 16, 1987, Gwangju Gwangsan FC ( S. Korea)
DF 18, Ed Dino, Febuary 9, 1983, Bandung Jaya (Indonesia)
DF 20, Ede Araujo, April 29, 1988, Persik Kediri ( Indonesia)
DF 22, Ernesto Da Costa Pinto ( Eney), January 3, 1984 , UTP FC ( Malaysia)
DF 24, Juvito, January 27, 1987, Ad. Dili Leste ( Timor Leste)
DF 26, Miguel Santos Soares, July 4, 1984, Ad. Dili Leste ( Timor Leste)
MF 5, Americo Ximenes, October 11, 1986, Creveela FC ( Northern Ireland)
MF 7, Cipriano Branco, August 24, 1985, FC B River ( Brazil)
MF 9, Emmanuel Nonny, December 25, 1986, Persibo Bojenegra ( Indonesia)
MF 11, Eusebio, June 9, 1985, FC Porto Taibesi (Timor Leste) ( Captain)
MF 13, Helder Mota Ricardo (Eric), August 1, 1977, Ad Dili Leste ( Timor Leste)
MF 15, Jose Joao Pereira,October 9, 1981, Ad. Dili Leste ( Timor Leste)
MF 17, Robert M. Aja, July 7, 1985, Portuguese Youth FC ( Malaysia)
MF 25, Sidonio Augusto De Jesus ( Donny),July 18, 1981, Grants Braes FC ( New Zealand) ( C0- Captain)
MF 27, Torres Vidigal, January 19, 1990, Portuguese Youth FC ( Malaysia)
MF 28, Vicente Ramos Freitas, December 28, 1985, Ad Dili Oeste ( Timor Leste)
FW 3, Anggisu,March 16, 1993, FC Porto Taibesi ( Timor Leste)
FW 4, Emillo da Silva ( Ary), April 5, 1982, Ad. Dili Oeste ( Timor Leste) ( Third Captain)
FW 8, Ermera, April 1, 1985, Bandung Jaya ( Indonesia)
FW 16, Felipinho Nessa, March 5, 1978, Portuguese Youth FC ( Malaysia)
FW 19, Franco Triana, December 18, 1984, Nuevo Talento FC ( Colombia)
FW 21, Quito, October 25, 1986, Ad. Dili Leste ( Timor Leste)
Of the 29 players in this list, 16 are abroad and 13 locally based. The coach, Antonio Carlos Viera, I believe is also Brazilian.
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