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Post by cjeagle on Feb 9, 2014 17:35:42 GMT 8
Weiss is back in the news again. Sounds like a 2013 reboot: www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/still-no-buyout-deal-between-pff-former-azkals-coach-hans-michael-weissThe Philippine Football Federation has yet to reach a buyout deal on the contract of former Azkals coach Hans Michael Weiss almost a month after he was sacked from the national team. “It’s not yet settled because there are some things that he feels that he is entitled to,” PFF president Mariano Araneta told InterAksyon.com. “We should be just looking at the written contract per se. We should discuss that.”
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Post by Caz on Mar 6, 2014 9:49:32 GMT 8
I guess this thread is done. What should we do, fellow mods?
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Post by cjeagle on Mar 6, 2014 10:13:58 GMT 8
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Post by dan17808 on Mar 6, 2014 22:08:59 GMT 8
Like Long Balls to Short Passes?
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Post by Caz on Mar 7, 2014 0:29:53 GMT 8
I agree that the team has transformed for the better within the short time since Dooley came in. Weiss and Dooley had different circumstances upon entry and Weiss' first two international matches actually had a better record. But again, things are different. In that case, maybe we should rename the thread?
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Post by cjeagle on Mar 7, 2014 0:48:09 GMT 8
Sure Caz. Renaming the thread might be a good idea. An apt title would be "Emperor Weiss Wears No Clothes" a term based on the Danish fairy tale, often used in political and social contexts for any obvious truth denied by the majority despite the evidence of their eyes.
As for the beginning of the Weiss regime, I was actually horrified at how they played. Despite the results which they obtained against inferior opposition, they played very disorganized. I was very hopeful at that time, that hiring a German coach would allow the team to adopt the efficient, organized system that made that country so successful in numerous World Cups.
But from the very beginning, I was already having doubts about Weiss. Even the Mongolian coach who had a vastly inferior team at his disposal did a better job at coaching and organizing his team than Weiss, the supposedly German expert. Many said that he was just starting and to give him some time to organize the team. But I have seen many coaches who not only do well from the start(that would now include Dooley in his first 2 games) but even turn around teams completely without any so called honeymoon period.
Unfortunately despite myself and others trying to make excuses for him, he proved that my reservations on him from the beginning was correct. Most of all, his work ethic which could have been his saving grace, if he only applied himself to the task at hand, was very disappointing. No other German coach could be this lazy, not even performing the normal scouting duties you would expect from the national team coach.
Whatever positive results we had, as time went on can be attributed to our experienced players from Europe, who did their best to organize the team(sometimes behind his back) and compensate for the lack of leadership at the helm.
His regime will always be remembered for the near mutiny by his players, at the SEA games, when some couldn't take it anymore and left. It was a disaster that can completely be laid at his feet, since he didn't even take the time to prepare the team properly, or scout the U-23 national championship, that was held specifically to help him obtain new players.
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Post by butchok on Mar 7, 2014 1:22:40 GMT 8
Weiss has done his dues so we'll leave him to move on to wherever he is now. . . to mods, please close this thread. thanks.
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Post by cjeagle on Mar 7, 2014 1:39:55 GMT 8
Well considering that he feels he is still owed some compensation which made the news last week, his story is still not quite finished, but I will bow to the majority if that is the prevailing sentiment. I just think that his story should serve as an object lesson on how our society should just not be satisfied with mediocrity and the status quo when it comes to our leaders, but for something more.
BTW, Simon McMenemy had a similar thread going on here even after he left, mostly positive as he was well liked, but it eventually died on its own because of lack of interest.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2014 1:55:02 GMT 8
For what its worth, I'm sure there are also a lot of great things to say about Coach Weiss.
Change the title of the thread maybe?
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Post by cjeagle on Mar 7, 2014 2:13:21 GMT 8
Well there used to be a term during the Spanish Colonial era prior to 1812, called the "Juicio de Residencia" (Trial or Judgement of Residence) which consisted of this: at the termination of a public functionary's term, his performance in office was subject to review, and those with grievances against him were entitled to a hearing.
Obviously since the national team coach is not a public official, this probably would not be appropriate, but a more modern term like A Review of Philippine Football under Coach Weiss, or Postscript : An Evaluation of Coach Weiss as National Team Coach, would I think be more acceptable to most.
What do you guys think?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2014 14:03:34 GMT 8
Aren't you the history buff cjeagle.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2014 15:45:08 GMT 8
"I know what you did last summer, but with long balls"
"From Weiss to Dooley, Meatballs to Spicy Sausage Hotdogs"
"Thoughts on Weiss' Balls"
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Post by cjeagle on Mar 7, 2014 17:11:07 GMT 8
Aren't you the comedian azkaholic? You sure you don't work for Saturday Night Live? Something amusing would be okay, too. I still would prefer "Coach Weiss Wears No Clothes".
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Post by Caz on Mar 7, 2014 19:07:54 GMT 8
Well there used to be a term during the Spanish Colonial era prior to 1812, called the "Juicio de Residencia" (Trial or Judgement of Residence) which consisted of this: at the termination of a public functionary's term, his performance in office was subject to review, and those with grievances against him were entitled to a hearing. Obviously since the national team coach is not a public official, this probably would not be appropriate, but a more modern term like A Review of Philippine Football under Coach Weiss, or Postscript : An Evaluation of Coach Weiss as National Team Coach, would I think be more acceptable to most. What do you guys think? I like the postscript thingee.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2014 20:52:13 GMT 8
Seriously, there certainly was some kind of foundation there that meatballs had created either by accident or through natural course of things, wouldn't you guys agree? Where was it, somewhere in one of the articles, I think Coach Dooley had a postcript on his observations on meatballs there about seeing that, and liked that in fact. So Coach Dooley recognizes this foundation, comes in...and ELEVATES that to another level.
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