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Post by CVROM on Dec 6, 2011 8:38:08 GMT 8
The Dream CupCompared to ticket prices of past official matches played by the Azkals at the Rizal Memorial pitch such as the Asian Challenge Cup and World Cup qualifiers, the rates for this friendly can be considered astronomical, with the cheapest pegged at P2,500 and the costliest at P15,500. Many football fans are really turned off of this steep ticket prices. I guess promoters need a strong backing of sponsors to make ticket prices lower.... we need to promote football and people need to see top notch games such as this...
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Post by benzgm on Dec 6, 2011 9:51:09 GMT 8
as mentioned in the Azkals - Galaxy thread, foremost in making ticket prices cheaper is to make it more accessible to a lot of people, ergo, the more people sharing the cost, the cheaper tickets will be. This however is limited by the lack of seating capacities of our existing stadia, hence the need to build a larger stadium.
Another possibility is, as what you mentioned, a strong backing of sponsors. While airtime adverts are only limited to the pre-game, half-time, and post-game airings, we could learn from the "Pacquiao Commercialization" whereby sponsors logos could be placed on the player's uniforms (though i'm not sure whether FIFA has restrictions on this), a sponsored running scoreline (say SGV), timeline (e.g. Casio) and even replays and selected plays (FEDEX thru pass, Cebuana assist, Circulan heartbreak moment for misses, Modess composure moment for maintaining composure under pressure, and the likes)
I know some of these may be absurd, but hey, if it would help in the development of football, why not.
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Post by rhamz84 on Dec 6, 2011 13:12:38 GMT 8
Yes, we need to upgrade our stadium [Seating Capacity] take for example Gelora Bung Karno Stadium (Indonesia). This is needed to diversify the cost of tickets, the more people the more chances we have lower prices on that matter and its also for the benefits of future Football Players [NT] if & only if there's a willingness to invest. Thanks
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Post by Wiking on Dec 6, 2011 13:50:00 GMT 8
Lets look at this realistically. I don't think, the government has the cash or the will to build a showcase football field, so it will be up to the private sector to come up with a plan. As of now we are at the renaissance phase of football and some possible sponsors are still weary of investing a vast amount(lets talk Billions here) for a new pitch, so for the short run the only relief for cheaper tickets are more sponsors. The more we play these exhibition matches and international friendlies the more the sponsors will come, I think.
My hope is a part governmental and private sector partnership with the UFL as primary user for a new field with a high quality artificial type pitch(for higher usage rate and less maintenance cost).
Another idea I have is to Demolish the old RMC and rebuild it to a modern standard. This way the cost of NEW land will be removed. It will definitely cost much less plus will still be accessible as the LRT is very close.
Ideas anyone?
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Post by rhamz84 on Dec 6, 2011 14:41:21 GMT 8
Acquire more resources 1st & save for future Stadium definitely will take time but still worth the wait.
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Post by kulaspero15 on Dec 6, 2011 16:07:54 GMT 8
Why not bring the reserve team first of well known teams with a couple of superstars just for the hype. That would be cheaper I guess. We could also invite teams from J League or K League just to give us the much needed exposure and I'm sure the the huge Korean community here will support that.. Plus, it would be cheaper.. We could also market it as PH All Stars or something else (like what the IND did) ...instead of PH NT so that we would be able to put sponsors in their jersey. but what about inviting Zidane and friends? That's a nice way to promote football and its for a good cause. some of the proceeds will go to charity which might urges the private sector to sponsor the said event and shoulder the cost of the event which leads to cheaper tickets. Bring Schroeck's team in PH! I really think that it will bring enough buzz for footy fans to march to RMC and fill up the stadium. This might be off topic I remember long time ago when nobody really cared about football in PH and there was a football match lead by Jackie Chan. tickets were sold out for that match because there was one notable figure in the match. We probably can use this formula in staging the next event like what I just stated earlier by having the reserve team of RM or Barca.. Etc..
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Post by Caz on Dec 6, 2011 18:32:40 GMT 8
Digital ad boards which run along the sidelines are a good way to get advertising space and time even during the match. And someone fix the big screen in RMS! And that clock! Audio ads can run before and after the match and even during halftime. Look at how big name concerts are done. Where the ads are and all that. Now that potential sponsors have seen the hype that can be generated from a big team coming in, they'd hopefully be more willing to invest.
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Post by benzgm on Jun 7, 2012 11:18:37 GMT 8
perhaps the mods could rename this thread to something like "how to improve match attendance"
With the gaping empty seats noticeable during the INA-PHI match, improving attendance for home matches are one of the major points being raised.
Some suggested, Bob G. for one lowering ticket prices, but could this really be one of the major reasons for the disappointing turn-out during the match? I'm actually skeptical, considering that 150 (the lowest priced) is not that expensive, at least for me (I could compensate for such by having my lunch packed instead of visiting the office carinderia for a week).
While holding the match on a Tuesday was a factor, I think it's more of a minimal conversion of band-wagoners into real fans, casual, die-hard or otherwise.
Now on what to do...
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Post by narko on Jun 7, 2012 16:09:01 GMT 8
Why does kick-off on a weekday matchday have to be 7pm? Especially here in Metro Manila when played in Rizal Memorial Stadium. The match in Kuala Lumpur kicked off at 8:45pm. Perhaps this may be one factor, maybe they could study attendance for matches held on weekends and those on weekdays.
People are only starting to get off work or class around 5pm or 6pm. If you're in Quezon City, Alabang, Caloocan, Paranaque or thereabouts, what's the point of dealing with rush hour traffic to watch only one half of the match as that's all about you will get to see by the time you get to your seat in the stadium.
Factor in also the time it takes people to get into the stadium, lined up outside to move through the entrances, especially those with tickets for the bleachers. A number are liable to miss kick-off if the majority of people start converging at around the same time an hour or less before kick-off.
Organizers have to factor in convenience of the viewing public. Not everyone is going there on their own. Some bring their families, and not all can afford to just meet up at the stadium. Some folks would need to pass for their kids before heading to the stadium. If they get off work around 5pm, it's doubtful they'll get to the stadium in time for kick-off. It is more likely these people will opt to watch the match in a bar with friends or at home with their families instead.
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Post by stellarboy on Jun 7, 2012 16:27:11 GMT 8
Renamed it for you, benzgm.
I think the kick-off time is being considered for the broadcasters as well, as they can't disrupt their regular programming in just one go. Studio 23, in particular, has to reschedule their nightly newscast and their regular primetime programs to an earlier time or a later time just to accommodate a NT match, if it was held in a weekday. It's actually costly for the network, considering for instance if a cup match involving the NT went into extra time and into penalties, they would have to preempt a regular 30- or 45-minute primetime program or even the nightly newscast just to accommodate the extra time.
But considering the overall convenience of the viewing public who will be watching live and on TV, the PFF must consider better choices in coordinating with the local organizers and the broadcaster in facilitating these matches.
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Post by narko on Jun 7, 2012 16:31:18 GMT 8
I was going to mention the TV coverage factor stellarboy, you beat me to it. That just occurred to me. I took it for granted that in almost everywhere else in the world, everything stands still for football. Right, we haven't reached that stage yet here and live football match coverage can't as yet have enough weight to influence regular prime time TV program schedules.
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Post by stellarboy on Jun 7, 2012 16:39:59 GMT 8
Right, narko. TV networks have still to be mature enough to allocate football matches in their schedule. Basketball-crazed as many Pinoys are, it's still difficult for the PFF and even the UFL to schedule their fixtures on TV. Well, during the Malaysia-Philippines match on Studio 23, I had to argue with my dad as there was a PBA match at the same time on AKTV.
Case in point as well, the UFL. The UFL organisers have to schedule fixtures starting early in the afternoon which is convenient for the viewing audience, but utterly inconvenient for players given our country's climate. Also, PBA games are scheduled on midweek and weekend nights as well. Therefore, we don't see a lot of games televised. During the UFL Cup finals last year though, the attendance was well-filled as it was schedule late at night, therefore giving time for the audience to gather at Rizal just to watch that exciting final match.
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Post by alvill44 on Jun 7, 2012 16:46:01 GMT 8
1.) Win games. You win games, you get the hype then you get the bandwagoners. You lose games, you lose the hype, the bandwagoners get off the bandwagon. And the result? Decline of attendance. 2.) Good marketing. I don't know how they market Azkals' friendly matches back home in P.I. because I don't live there. But it's no secret that a good marketing attracts a lot of people 3.) Lower the ticket prices.
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Post by jpesarza on Jun 7, 2012 17:35:36 GMT 8
I agree with all of your suggestions guys.
Besides sky high ticket prices, Time and Date selection are also a let-down. We should consider doing our next matches on the weekend. 7PM schedule is crazy as well; considering that most of the people that can afford to buy the tickets are the ones who have day jobs, knowing the Metro’s traffic condition? it’ll be hard to catch up. Maybe moving it an hour later could improve attendance.
Another suggestion would be, bring in teams for a tournament here like Singapore's RHB cup. Regular people sometimes just don't care much about friendlies unlike real football fans. Sometimes they (masses) prefer games where in teams are vying to achieve something in forms of trophy or recognition, not just ranking points.
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Post by kikomatsing on Jun 7, 2012 19:03:10 GMT 8
to improve attendance they should lower ticket prices and games should be played at a later time, usually games at night are played around 8:30- 8:45 pm and days are on wednesdays and saturdays
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