One way in ticket pricing is the stadium capacity. The bigger the stadium the cheaper the tickets are. Because they can get their Return of Investment because many people could watch the game.
The LA Galaxy game cost 15000+ in the nearest to the pitch. Well that will be for the expenses of the game and it's expensive because of limited capacity of RMS
I think the locality is a factor since Manila is a basketball crazy city and Bacolod is a football crazy city. Let's see on June 12 if this is a factor. Hope Panaad will be in full attendance
I think 7pm is the most practical time to start a football game here since by 8 or 9, may Filipinos prefer watching dramas ;D Well playing on weekends may be a factor. The Azkals vs Sri Lanka game was held on Sunday at 3:30pm while PHI vs KUW started at 7pm and held on Wednesday
Post by veryfatchocobo on Jun 8, 2012 2:01:30 GMT 8
For me: 1) Win games. duh 2) Play more in the Visayas. Apparently, football's more popular there than in Manila. We can't expect to make football popular if the football areas of the Philippines can't watch it live. 3) Better grass and not use bballish refs lol. There's football grass everywhere in the Philippines. 4) Marketinng
However, I still think the most important thing is extending the UFL or an equivalent to all of the Philippines, with each team having their own playing grounds. I only see football as a fad in the Philippines until this happens.
Wanted: Barangay Azkals — A look at the home crowd at Rizal Memorial Courtesy: InterAKTV website
It was my first time to watch an Azkals game live, and it was by accident. We were asked by a co-parent from my daughter’s school if she would be interested to be one of the marchers for the pre-game ritual of the Azkals game versus Indonesia.
As parents of the Marchers, we were given complimentary tickets to the upper white bleacher section of the stadium.
Marchers in this case were the small kids in orange jerseys that accompanied the Azkals and their counterparts to the football field for the pre-game ritual of presenting the country colors and the singing of the national anthems of the respective teams.
Make no mistake about it: I have loved watching this beautiful game since my high school days. But schedules, the reported exorbitant ticket prices, and other distractions have kept us from watching the Azkals’ game in the stadium.
The great divide
Once we got to the stadium, we immediately began screaming our hearts out, cheering for the Azkals, jeering the Indonesian player for their dives — especially their goalkeeper, because of his bad acting skills. But only a few of us, led by the Kaholeros, who were “into” the game the whole time.
The lethargic performance from Pinoy fans would have gone unnoticed if not for the glaring difference between the “away” crowd — lively, animated, boisterous Indonesian fans — and the “home” crowd.
One game in the stadium will not a conclusion make, but several thoughts came rushing through. From the moment we entered the stadium, I was already struck with the reality of the physical divide between the VIPs, invited guests with event IDs and the moneyed spectators that filled the grandstand on one hand; and the regular football habitués and the masa that were in the bleacher side of the stadium.
The result, it seems, is the presence of two distinct home crowds: the first, from the much tamer and prim section of the grandstand; and the second, from the more agitated bleacher section.
This added to the seeming “silence” of the home crowd. There were, of course, moments of frenzy when the Younghusbands scored equalizers twice, and when team captain and crowd darling Chiefy Caligdong got into the red card list with his entanglement with Indonesian forward Irfan Bachdim.
Maybe perhaps because this is Manila and not the Panaad Stadium, the hotbed of Philippine football, but I’ll leave this to those who have been to both venues. Chanting in (dis)unison
To their credit, the Kaholeros did their share of chants throughout the match. Unfortunately, it never reverberated to the home crowd. The Kaholeros were also in the same upper white bleacher area but the chants simply did not get through to us.
I was hoping that some members of the Kaholeros would have gone out of their way to teach the whole bleachers section of the chants. They never did.
I thought most of us did not feel like we owned the chant. I am sure there are other reasons; perhaps it is because we are still in the process of embracing football in our collective consciousness. We appreciate football as individuals, but not quite yet as a nation that loves football. Baka nagkakahiyaan pa kaya kanya kanya muna.
So we ended up having our own small chants, though they were few and far in between. The people from the blue bleacher area had their own version, and so did those from the grandstand area.
But while it was a relatively silent home crowd, there was never a dull moment. With our Pinoy brand of humor and being natural jesters, how could it be unexciting?
Barangay Azkals, anyone?
Everyone was expecting Neil Etheridge to start as the Azkals goalkeeper. But when he did not, people started asking who No. 47 — Filipino-German Roland Mueller — was.
A security personnel, in jest, replied: “Si Mark Caguioa yan.”
The Barangay Ginebra superstar, of course, famously wears No. 47 for the PBA’s crowd darlings.
During a lull in the scuffle that led to three red cards, a number of people were heard shouting the immoral phrases that were only heard during heated basketball games of yesteryears — “Suntukan na lang!” “Huwag palabasin yan!” “Matalo, manalo, bugbog kayo!”
Clearly, the passion and enthusiasm for football from among those that were at the stadium is as intense as any Barangay Ginebra fanatic.
For someone who has been ridiculed in previous years for staying in the wee hours of the weekends just to watch football games, this is a very happy and welcome development — though I’m still hoping for a better home crowd atmosphere the next time around.
why can't we have our LGU's and Local FA's involved whenever we have a match? just a thought. pwede naman siguro silang mamigay ng free tickets para makapanuod ang mga constituents nila like every Pacmans fight. Or maybe PSC or POC can tie up with public schools where in they will sponsor tickets for each of our games. from the start magastos, dahil sponsor lahat. pero in the long run parang win-win situation. dahil magkakaroon ng interest ang mga tao na manuod ng live matches dahil makikita nila sa TV na palaging puno ang stadium. and also sponsors will follow. alam ko sa bacolod (coz i grew up their), whenever there are international matches, the LGU's or local FA's are allocating number of tickets for their constituents for free at sponsor nila lahat even the transportation from and to the venue. just my 2 cents.
As someone who lives outside Manila, it would be nice if the PFF could make a tie up with airline companies for NT matches esp. Say, if you're flying in, maybe they can discount the tickets and or arrange discounted rates for the airlines with free airport transfers which would be helpful for those who might just fly in for the game. Say for Php2K to Php3K that's inclusive of game tickets.
they should lower the price how can an ordinary people watch the live game e kung tinalo pa nila ang price nang isang movie ticket sa GH shangrila at greenbelt.kung binaba un ticket from 250 to 200 or 150 i can assure u na mapupuno yan.sino nahan manood kung 250 ang isang ticket at sweldo nila kada bwan is 10k lang if a family of 5 wants to watch thats 1250 and that amount would be huge for the normal people.isang bwan na budget sa koryente na po un.for the fans to flock RMS they should lower it im not a low baller kaso from the looks of it the rich and famous only can afford the price.
Post by philyhsrightboot on Jun 8, 2012 21:58:10 GMT 8
we still dont have that football culture that other countries have. football for me still has the stereotype of being a rich man's game (at least in manila). for example, fans in the ufl mostly come from the upper classes of society. it needs to connect to the community like having clubs that represent barangays, towns or regions for example.
To be honest, I don't think it's the price. It's more of a lack of a footballing culture. 'Yung 200, dalawang tig-isandaang taya lang sa sabungan 'yan, wala na 'yan. And, yes, we have a cockfighting culture.
Step-by-step, gradually, mapupuno din natin 'yan. It takes time, maybe a generation, when the fathers who idolized Chieffy and the mothers who had a crush on the Younghusbands bring their sons and daughters to the match.
the team can't attract more football converts if they just keep finishing matches w/ a tie.
outside of the grandstand, the ticket prices for me is fairly reasonable. but i wouldn't complain if the pff pushed prices down.
what's funny though is that the P300 tickets were more popular than the P150 ones. halos walang naka-upo sa green and blue bleacher sections habang iyong sa white naman masikip. i doubt the sole reason would be the view, distance or angle because there's really not much difference in terms of clarity, obstructions or what have you
i think if the games are held at Panaad there will be a sold out crowd. football is not really known in Manila, this is the number one sport in some places here in Visayas, particularly Iloilo and Negros Oriental. we can compare the size of the crowd on our game against Guam this Tuesday and with our previous outing against Indonesia. we'll see if who will be the real fotty fans
RMS has been filled several times before. I think it's all about marketing. The buzz behind the world cup qualifiers was huge. It was hard not to turn your head and see something about the matches. As for the recent friendlies (Feb with Malaysia, and the last one with Indonesia) they were horribly marketed. I only saw buzz about it here in Usapang Football and from Twitter. If the National Team could be marketed as well as, say, Pacquiao, I'm sure we'd see a packed RMS. Make each friendly seem like the battle it is, not just a "wala lang" friendly. Pinoys have a warrior spark. Ignite that spark to flame by portraying our players as warriors, not dandruff-free matte-faced good-looking well-hydrated comedians with nice cellphones. I know it costs money to do so though. That's the challenge.
Post by kulaspero15 on Jun 10, 2012 13:29:46 GMT 8
@caz . 100% agree. the local organizing committee and PFF did a terrible job in marketing the friendlies. They have to maximize social network if they are running out of budget. I remember there was a time that they tried using tweeter to promote the game but the execution was horrible. They wanted to trend #COYA but only people who knew the meaning were insiders. I didn't even see any videos in YouTube to at least create a buzz. The organizers of the LA Galaxy vs Azkals maximized that. We saw videos of Beckham and Donovan inviting fans for the match. It really baffles me why they didn't do that. Just imagine Schrock, YH bros etc. in a video inviting fans. They did a pep rally before which I think was a good idea but even that event wasn't marketed very well.
One thing for sure. They really have to invest in marketing professionals since the current one that we have for sure doesn't know what they are doing.
We already know that there's a huge fan base in Visayas and Mindanao for football but if PFF wants to make football mainstream. Then Mr Palami is right to say that Manila is the key.
Wanted: Barangay Azkals, part 2 — Building football fandom from the ground up Jay Hizon, InterAKTV · Tuesday, June 12, 2012 · 2:22 pm
Last Sunday was quite a smorgasbord for sports aficionados from all walks of life.
For appetizers, we had the men’s finals between Novak Djokovic and Rafael Nadal at the French Open as well as the Canadian leg of the Formula 1 Grand Prix. The main course consisted of Game Seven of the Miami Heat and Boston Celtics series and of course, the now controversial Pacquiao-Bradley split-decision title fight. Dessert was a special Sunday offering of the PBA pitting sister teams Barangay Ginebra and Petron. Capping the day was the featured match for Day 3 of the Euro Cup between reigning champion Spain and perennial contender Italy.
At the UP Diliman Oval in Quezon City, however, the menu consisted only of football.
More than a thousand flocked to the day-long football festivities organized by a local football club at the UP Oval – an indication of the growing critical mass of football enthusiasts that cut across the different sectors of Philippine society.
There, football clubs from urban poor communities and public schools played against students from gated subdivisions and exclusive schools. As early as seven in the morning, the UP Oval was already humming with the simultaneous matches, with players aged from as young as five years old. Not even the summer-like weather could dampen the mood of the teams and their respective supporters and family members who came in full force.
Now, if only we could muster the kind of fervor that could be felt with the crowd at the UP Oval last Sunday in every Azkals game, it would not matter to us if it is played at the Rizal Memorial Football Stadium or at the Panaad Stadium.
Dissecting the Rizal Memorial crowd
The crowd at the Rizal Stadium during the Azkals-Indonesia match last Tuesday was a mixture of football enthusiasts, curious spectators that are yet (or trying) to appreciate the beautiful game, prying onlookers of showbiz and sports personalities in attendance, and shrieking fans of the good-looking Azkal players.
From the onset, the equation is already tilted against those who truly enjoy football, with a big chunk of those at the stadium being there for reasons other than love of the game. This equation makes the idea of a “home crowd” quite tricky. (See: Wanted: Barangay Azkals — A look at the home crowd at Rizal Memorial)
After all, football fans can only cheer so much if stadiums remain half-empty. The idea of a “home crowd” suggests that we own the stadium; that we own each and every game that is played in our “home” stadium. There is no way an “away crowd” — much less an “away team” — can feel threatened with a half-empty stadium.
The question then is how to make football enthusiasts – the same horde who were at the UP Oval — be stirred and stimulated to pack the Rizal Football Stadium to the rafters.
Owning the games
For starters, perhaps the Philippine Football Federation and the Azkals management can request the major commercial sponsors of the Azkals, especially the networks that broadcast the Azkals’ games, to partially subsidize gate receipts in order to make the game more accessible to the great majority of football followers and give bulk discounts to recognized community-based and public school-based football clubs.
Ticket prices remain one of the primary deterrents in popularizing the game that we have only recently begun to love. Even the established leagues in Europe, except for the hugely popular English Premier League, have cut back on ticket prices to ensure that fans continue to patronize and enjoy each and every game of their favorite clubs.
The chants and the cheers will only come after we have built that intangible atmosphere of a home crowd. There is no shortcut in building that home-crowd feeling. It cannot be achieved by artificially chanting phrases that only a few can relate to.
Barangay Ginebra was not created in two or three games.
No one now knows who coined that legendary chant of Gi-Ne-Bra, Gi-Ne-Bra or that famous chant for the player wearing Jersey No. 7: Ja-Wor-Ski, Ja-Wor-Ski. And neither would anyone from among the throngs of Barangay Ginebra fanatics care to know who and how these chants were coined. What matters to them is that these are chants that they can identify with; that these are chants they own and have been a part of, for several basketball years now.
As to those who watch the football games for other reasons — the curious spectators, prying onlookers, and shrieking fans will eventually be transformed to football enthusiasts when the novelty of football would have passed. Otherwise, these groups will simply wither away.
papajamba: listening now to simone rota - across the line podcast
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BoyBacolod: As long as Ricky Yanson is professional to Ceres FC and extends support to the Azkals in general (Ceres Azkals in particular) during home games, he can be PFF president in my book. Much better will be reconciling with Leo, though that idea is Farfetch'd.
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BoyBacolod: Kaya fans wishing that Ricky Yanson wins the PFF presidency is akin to GMA fans wishing that Congress and President Duterte will not renew ABS-CBN's franchise.
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BoyBacolod: We will wait for the basketball and volleyball ASEAN teams and then we compare their reception to that given to the football delegations, where ALL ASEAN nations participate. Now there will be foreign scrutiny in every move of PHISGOC.
Nov 24, 2019 23:20:26 GMT 8
BoyBacolod: DDS trolls underestimated the SEA football community. Having no prior exposure to football culture, they dismiss any and all so-called sabotages as destabilization plots, to the point that they do not support the teams, especially the women.
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Passerby: That's awkwardly worded.
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nil: anyone have any ADT FC's contact?
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Caz: Hey everyone! I hope you're all healthy and well! Philippine football is just about to pick itself up from these quarantine days so I'm looking forward to getting this forum up and running again!
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