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Post by strikerbon on Dec 12, 2013 15:42:08 GMT 8
3-4-3 formation clearly doesn't work. did Nierras saw how many times did Burmese wingers penetrate our flanks? the opponents were just too fast for the Malditas but he never made an adjustment. he was nothing but all talk.
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Post by SpaceSocaPlayaX on Dec 12, 2013 17:53:15 GMT 8
Guys, he's nothing more than a "pretend" coach. His tactics make an AYSO coach cringe. As far as I'm concerned, the internal damage is already done. He's lost the respect of his own players, which in my opinion, is worse than getting beat. I don't expect these girls to be back next year. As long as that "fraud" is in charge, those girls won't play for him ever again.
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Post by nogoal on Dec 14, 2013 1:07:44 GMT 8
3-4-3 formation clearly doesn't work. did Nierras saw how many times did Burmese wingers penetrate our flanks? the opponents were just too fast for the Malditas but he never made an adjustment. he was nothing but all talk. The US players are more accustomed playing a 4-3-3 formation. It's the formation the top clubs and college teams play, some will also use a 4-5-1 or 4-2-3-1 formation. In the 4-5-1, it transitions to a 4-3-3 when attacking.
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Post by SpaceSocaPlayaX on Dec 14, 2013 20:36:35 GMT 8
Nierras on facebook yesterday after the game:
"To all our fans and supporters: I take full responsibility for our loss to Vietnam and Myanmar. I did not prepare the girls good enough to deal with both these teams. Tactically Vietnam was far more superior than us. We still have a lot to learn as a team. I apologize for the results and I take full responsibility for the losses. Pls continue to support these girls. They are much better than this."
Same BS, just different tournament. Sorry I'm not buying this garbage. Year after year after year, we have to listen to this guy talk all bad ass like he's the reincarnation of Jose Mourinho and when it's time for him to deliver, he crashes and burns. And then tucks his tail between his legs and starts apologizing.
Enough is enough already.
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Post by rubi on Dec 14, 2013 21:43:24 GMT 8
I watched that 7-nil game from yesterday and I gotta say I was shocked. most of the goals were so easily made without enough resistance from our players. besides their fitness level didnt seem high compared to the vietnam team.
I liked our keeper MARIA DELA CRUZ, she had a convincing performance, but sometimes I felt sorry for her being left alone by her teammates. If Nierras really takes full responsibility theres only one logical thing for him to do...and that is to quit
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Post by SpaceSocaPlayaX on Dec 15, 2013 9:46:07 GMT 8
Found this comment on the FilipinoFootball blog:
"There is a difference between a coach and "mahilig na tatay". His passion is admirable but that doesn't make a good coach at all. If you get the same results whether you play with mediocre players or seasoned NCAA D1/D2 players, you can't help but look elsewhere for the problem's source. Fortunately for him he has the resources and the energy to run a team(or 2) where his kid can play and even wear an armband. Lets get down to it, how many teams does he run that doesn't have a Nierras and/or an Alquiros in it? Hmmm…mahilig na tatay.
I think part of the problem is that he probably thinks he is a better coach than these girl's college coaches. You can't get much farther from the truth than that and the girls know this. I doubt any of them has learned anything new from any of his "systems". These girls were already top notch players coming in…nothing in this team has made them better tactically."
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Post by strikerbon on Dec 15, 2013 10:06:30 GMT 8
time to fire Nierras!
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Post by nashval on Dec 15, 2013 12:07:34 GMT 8
Hey SpaceSocaPlayaX p0st it on the malditas fb page so that the c0ach w0uld kn0w what's wr0ng with him..
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Post by nashval on Dec 15, 2013 12:08:41 GMT 8
Hey SpaceSocaPlayaX p0st it on the malditas fb page so that the c0ach w0uld kn0w what's wr0ng with him..
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Post by SpaceSocaPlayaX on Dec 15, 2013 12:54:30 GMT 8
Nierras' recent post on the Malditas group page:
"Unless you are part of my coaching staff or the PFF pls refrain from posting your ideas and suggestions about how to run the WNT. I've been patient enough but your postings are insulting already. This is not a discussion forum. Show some respect!"
This is too funny. The gall of this guy to think he's above criticism for that piss poor job of coaching at the SEA Games.
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Post by Caz on Dec 15, 2013 21:08:53 GMT 8
Ouch. I do feel bad for the girls who had such soaring spirits entering the tournament. To have hopes crushed like that is too painful to imagine. Pick yourselves up, girls. There will be more games and tournaments in the future. That flag you wear is all about being tough and resilient. This too shall pass.
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Post by chriscor on Dec 16, 2013 2:45:23 GMT 8
In the nearly 2 years since my daughter was contacted to consider playing for the PWNT, I have had the opportunity to follow the team as closely as I can from this far distance so here I offer my observation…
This team will always be at a severe disadvantage. I’ll actually go out on a limb and say that their chances of beating the 3 powerhouse teams in the foreseeable future are nearly non-existent. It’s not that hard to imagine why. These are teams that have been developed from the grassroots. At any given time, a vast majority of their players have played together for a long time. They pretty much spent several years together creating synergy. Unfortunately for the PWNT, this is simply not a possibility, at least not to the level that is required to compete against these strong teams. Individually our players have what it takes, but it’s a sport that requires them to play together, to know and understand where everyone else is at any given time during the game. It takes years in club, years in high school and years in college to gain that kind of knowledge. And they have done that competing and practicing for several months every single year with their respective teams. They assess their failures and successes together throughout the year. That’s how they got better both individually and as a team. Thailand, Myanmar and Vietnam all have the advantage of doing that year in and year out. That is a near impossibility for the PWNT to develop if they are only to compete once or twice a year and without assurance which players will be available for any given event. Not to mention the little time they often have available to prepare.
With a little luck in grouping this team will eventually and finally advance out of group stage. But what does that really mean when we’ll always be perennial losers to any of those 3 teams who are almost always guaranteed to advance. The only reason one of them didn’t advance during the past AFF was due to the inclusion of even stronger powerhouses from Japan and Australia.
As we already witnessed, these NCAA girls are not likely to continue playing after they graduate college. It just doesn’t make sense for many of them. Playing for this team is a fun thing to do on someone else’s dollar as long as it doesn’t interfere with school. Or it’s something else to do once you are done with college and still finding work or are working but have the flexibility to continue doing so….but really…how likely are you to find situations like that. Its not sustainable. My daughter went through it and it never even became a matter of decision.
As far as the coach, well…I don’t know him personally. He certainly has unorthodox methods of coaching. Whether it’s a good thing or a bad thing…well.. unfortunately for him it can only be judged by the results. Since the LA Vikings Cup, my daughter and I had sporadic conversations about this and all she could say was, “they will either learn to live with his system or die trying”. Every loss inevitably raises more questions.
My 2 cents suggests that the win against Iran, and the close game against Thailand during the AFC simply benefited from the element of surprise. That element is now gone, and all the strong teams have responded that way strong teams do. The PWNT’s predicament now lays in the fact that those opponents showed that they are better at adapting to us than it is for our team to improve. Recent results clearly suggest that they have done that and we are unable to respond. The answer: we cant. Not anytime soon.
What does it all mean to the PWNT? Personally, I don’t think the use of foreign players will ultimately deliver the desired results. This team is just too handicapped by the logistics. The schedules simply wont allow it to flourish. It’s a very tough challenge to overcome. The most sustainable approach is to develop a team from the grassroots. But how do you get the youth excited when the team is unable to achieve the success necessary to attain that? I don’t know. But Thailand, Vietnam and Myanmar figured it out. They too, once upon a time, had to deal with that severe disadvantage.
Perhaps someday my observation will be proven wrong. I hope so, for that will be a glorious day for the PWNT.
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Post by leoisiah on Dec 16, 2013 10:36:31 GMT 8
Some people have been saying that Michael Weiss is poor in handling media. Nierras is much worse, pinapatulan na yung mga bashers sa Malditas' FB page.
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Post by nashval on Dec 16, 2013 11:12:27 GMT 8
Nierras cant handle criticisms..even managers of well kn0w clubs go through that..over c0mplacency kills, nierras underestimated their opponents..if u n0tice before a tournament he would always say we will win this and that.. fans get disapp0inted when nierras c0uldnt deliver thats why they criticize..
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Post by nogoal on Dec 16, 2013 11:23:55 GMT 8
In the nearly 2 years since my daughter was contacted to consider playing for the PWNT, I have had the opportunity to follow the team as closely as I can from this far distance so here I offer my observation… This team will always be at a severe disadvantage. I’ll actually go out on a limb and say that their chances of beating the 3 powerhouse teams in the foreseeable future are nearly non-existent. It’s not that hard to imagine why. These are teams that have been developed from the grassroots. At any given time, a vast majority of their players have played together for a long time. They pretty much spent several years together creating synergy. Unfortunately for the PWNT, this is simply not a possibility, at least not to the level that is required to compete against these strong teams. Individually our players have what it takes, but it’s a sport that requires them to play together, to know and understand where everyone else is at any given time during the game. It takes years in club, years in high school and years in college to gain that kind of knowledge. And they have done that competing and practicing for several months every single year with their respective teams. They assess their failures and successes together throughout the year. That’s how they got better both individually and as a team. Thailand, Myanmar and Vietnam all have the advantage of doing that year in and year out. That is a near impossibility for the PWNT to develop if they are only to compete once or twice a year and without assurance which players will be available for any given event. Not to mention the little time they often have available to prepare. With a little luck in grouping this team will eventually and finally advance out of group stage. But what does that really mean when we’ll always be perennial losers to any of those 3 teams who are almost always guaranteed to advance. The only reason one of them didn’t advance during the past AFF was due to the inclusion of even stronger powerhouses from Japan and Australia. As we already witnessed, these NCAA girls are not likely to continue playing after they graduate college. It just doesn’t make sense for many of them. Playing for this team is a fun thing to do on someone else’s dollar as long as it doesn’t interfere with school. Or it’s something else to do once you are done with college and still finding work or are working but have the flexibility to continue doing so….but really…how likely are you to find situations like that. Its not sustainable. My daughter went through it and it never even became a matter of decision. As far as the coach, well…I don’t know him personally. He certainly has unorthodox methods of coaching. Whether it’s a good thing or a bad thing…well.. unfortunately for him it can only be judged by the results. Since the LA Vikings Cup, my daughter and I had sporadic conversations about this and all she could say was, “they will either learn to live with his system or die trying”. Every loss inevitably raises more questions. My 2 cents suggests that the win against Iran, and the close game against Thailand during the AFC simply benefited from the element of surprise. That element is now gone, and all the strong teams have responded that way strong teams do. The PWNT’s predicament now lays in the fact that those opponents showed that they are better at adapting to us than it is for our team to improve. Recent results clearly suggest that they have done that and we are unable to respond. The answer: we cant. Not anytime soon. What does it all mean to the PWNT? Personally, I don’t think the use of foreign players will ultimately deliver the desired results. This team is just too handicapped by the logistics. The schedules simply wont allow it to flourish. It’s a very tough challenge to overcome. The most sustainable approach is to develop a team from the grassroots. But how do you get the youth excited when the team is unable to achieve the success necessary to attain that? I don’t know. But Thailand, Vietnam and Myanmar figured it out. They too, once upon a time, had to deal with that severe disadvantage. Perhaps someday my observation will be proven wrong. I hope so, for that will be a glorious day for the PWNT. The biggest hurdle is $$$$$$. The PFF doesn't allocate a lot of money in the womens program. In the US the youth national team coaches begin identifying the top players at U14. These girls will be introduced, acclimated, but most importantly developed by the US Soccer Federation of coaches for the next 7-8 years. The 13-14 year old girls will have 3 training camps that run a week long. For the next 3 years these girls will prepare for qualification for the next cycle U17 Womens World Cup in 2 years time and major international tournaments there after. The investment begins at an early age. Where the girls learn through years of playing together. As for the Fil-Am players never being able to defeat the likes of Myanmar or Vietnam. I have to call bull, it is well documented the Girls Youth Mexican National Team is loaded with Mexican-American players who were recruited from the US. These Mexican American players play and are trained by the top soccer clubs in the US. Just a month ago, the U17 Mexican Womens National team rostered a team full of Mexican American trained players defeated the U17 US Womens National team in PKs, eliminating the US from qualification into the U17 World Cup. If, they can defeated the US U17 Womens....it is very realistic for mixed team of Filipina and Fil-Am players to eventually win a major Asian Womens Tournament. It will NOT be overnight though! The foundation begins with identifying the VERY BEST Filapina or Fil-Am players and train them for the next 7-8 years. It will take more than 1 or 2 training camps per year though. By U17 the US womens player pool have week long camps every other month. So, it is up to the PFF to invest in the girls at a young age if results are expected in the future.
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