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Post by cjeagle on May 31, 2014 5:59:41 GMT 8
Haven't posted for awhile in the forum. I just had to sign up again and congratulate the Azkals for a great tournament in the challenge cup. They were able to get into the finals at last. Of course, it was a big big heartbreak to lose from Palestine. I was already daydreaming about Asian Cup in Australia kaya sobrang masakit. But I'll get over it. At first, I was frustrated why two seasoned players didn't get to start. I thought at first that the team needed some fresh legs after that physically and emotionally tiring semifinals two days ago. But they took that risk. While Coach Weiss was more risk averse - very conservative; Coach Dooley was the opposite. He takes chances. Despite the loss in the finals, I'm still happy for the team. We still won second place an achievement from the previous years - despite few months of preparation. And the guys we're playing better football compared before. I'm disappointed the Azkals won't be able to play in Australia but there will be other opportunities for them. I like Coach Dooley and the new staff. I could see the changes/influence they have on the players. He has gained the trust of the players and vice versa. Not to take any of the achievements from the previous coach, but before you could feel some strained relationships and most of the time parang kanya-kanyang kayod sa laro ang mga players. There will be a lot of learnings from this experience - for the players, the coaching staff and management. It will only make the team better. Another positive thing that I can take from this tournament is that big networks such as ABS and media are giving attention again to the Azkals and football. It died down for awhile. This is what I'm more worried about. How can PFF and Dan Palami sustain the momentum? Build on this attention? They need to change some things in order for football to grow in the country. They can't just rely on the Azkals (games) to sustain football. It takes more than that. How I wished that the local league (UFL) was contracted to ABSCBN. ABS could have helped them continue the momentum by focusing the attention to the UFL through the big network. I know that there is progress in the UFL through TV5 but their marketing needs a big boost. Moving on to other national games, I hope coach Dooley would let all young players play on the peace cup. I can afford the risk (of losing) just so that the young ones get the experience. It's a good preparation for them for the Suzuki Cup in which I'm sure a lot of our international players won't be available. Hopefully, Peace Cup will be held in Visayas (better football crowd). About Suzuki Cup, winning now isn't so far-fetched. We must win it! :-) Anyway, apologies for the long post. Paminsan-minsan lang magpost kase :-) Feel free to post as often as you want. We welcome your input. We are all volunteers here anyway who share your love for Philippine football.
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Post by dingodile5 on May 31, 2014 6:48:48 GMT 8
Let's take the brighter side of this.
1. Since we improved our finish in the last edition, more people here in PHI are now interested in the sport. 2. Because of respect we earned here, definitely more strong opponents are likely to play us for a friendly or invite us for mini-tournaments. 3. Yes PLE will move the greatest in FIFA rankings from 165 to 90+ but we will rise back to 120+. Our Elo will also improve. 4. More players are likely to play for us with the likes of Palla, Alomar etc.
In football, anything could happen.
Moving on for AFF Suzuki Cup 2014, our next big tournament.
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Post by dingodile5 on May 31, 2014 6:59:39 GMT 8
This game is very important for PLE since it brings hope and unity in their country as they are in war in their neighbor and struggling to be an independent nation.
Chin up for us. Who knows since the Asian Cup after AUS will be increased to 24 from 16. Who knows, we might appear here if we do good in the qualification stages.
If I'm not mistaken, they will have silver medals but no trophy.
BTW will they have a courtesy call in Malacanang? For sure they will be warmly welcomed at the airport when they're back. Let's see.
Hey PSC/POC look what they have done to our PHI football. you always ignore PHI football to grow by not sending delegation in SEA Games and likely for Asian Games 2014 (based on some sources before)
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Post by orangepink on May 31, 2014 7:31:02 GMT 8
^ I hope they get a courtesy call in Malacanang. Are all of them going back to the Philippines? What's the price for second place?
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Post by xyz1000 on May 31, 2014 7:44:57 GMT 8
Congratulations to the Azkals! Good showing in the tournament and taking home second place is something to be proud of. Let no one forget that. Nobody likes the sound of We’re Number Two, and the silver medalist is often forgotten. But let no one forget that there were twenty teams at the start of this. Yes, twenty from the beginning qualifiers to the end, so putting that into context, this is a very good showing.
Congratulations to Palestine. They were the better team today. It was a winnable game, like another poster mentioned, and the game plan of slowing the pace was advantageous to the Azkals. I thought Palestine was out of their element when playing compact in half the field. Their only goal was from a set piece, and most of their shots on goal weren’t really dangerous. There were two, possibly three at most that were quality chances so the 15 shots doesn’t really represent any true dominance. Kudos to Dooley for that. Had we played fast, attacking football, we would’ve been punished with more goals. I’m sure of it. A 1:0 scoreline where the only goal was a set piece. Think about that.
The thing with a slow pace and choosing to play defense most of the time is that you have to convert the few chances you get, and few chances there were – only two. Fantastic, quality chances. Mulders and PYH – they have to convert those.
Sato was playing with 100% and the extra 10% heart, Aguinaldo was fine, Schrock was excellent and all over the place, Rota with the numerous chances was okay but could’ve been better, and while Mulders and de Jong didn’t have a strong holding presence, their defense was good.
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Post by xyz1000 on May 31, 2014 7:56:14 GMT 8
On to the Suzuki Cup! On average those teams are tougher and getting out of the group stage will be difficult no matter who the opponents will be.
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Post by kuo24 on May 31, 2014 8:32:31 GMT 8
There is actually a June break that the Azkals can take advantage of. While the rest of the world is engaged in the World Cup, we can still play an international friendly or two as we can screen even more candidates for the team.
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Post by stingray11214 on May 31, 2014 8:46:47 GMT 8
On to the Suzuki Cup! On average those teams are tougher and getting out of the group stage will be difficult no matter who the opponents will be. The difference is that we were 90 minutes from the AFC Asian Cup. Singapore and Thailand were a combined 1-0-11 in qualifying. We'll make the Finals this time.
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Post by boybato on May 31, 2014 9:05:35 GMT 8
Still disappointed...
First off I dont know what is the logic of starting Schrock when the plan to dig a hole and defend in the first half. They could have done a Maldives and start Lucena and sub Schrock in the second half.
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Post by mike fil montz on May 31, 2014 9:15:57 GMT 8
A difference on the outcome, at this stage, still is a big achievement..
Grats to the azkals, and props to TD for a JWD!...
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Post by xyz1000 on May 31, 2014 9:37:16 GMT 8
On to the Suzuki Cup! On average those teams are tougher and getting out of the group stage will be difficult no matter who the opponents will be. The difference is that we were 90 minutes from the AFC Asian Cup. Singapore and Thailand were a combined 1-0-11 in qualifying. We'll make the Finals this time. For me the Asian Cup would've been an honor. But you bring home a point that I've been thinking about if we had won this game. If Singapore and Thailand were a combined 1-0-11, how do you think the Azkals would fare against Japan, Jordan, and Iraq? Whenever I watch the World Cup, I could never watch much of a game where one team completely destroys another (e.g. North Korea vs. Portugal). I wouldn't want to see that with Team Azkals. I say go to the Asian Cup when we're more competitive.
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Post by ruuikun on May 31, 2014 10:02:10 GMT 8
Congrats to Palestine. They were the somewhat better Team..
Feel so bad we lost by one goal. A Free Kick that was delivered with sheer class.. Everyone was so slow during the secondhalf. The boys were tired..We were missing players.All in all it Just wasnt our Night..
The ToothFairy didnt come home..
However we our Next Goal should be the Suzuki Cup.. We should WIN the Suzuki Cup.. That will be the deciding factor if Dooley is given an extension or not..
Azkals. We Still Believe. SuzukiCup 2014. World Cup 2018. Asian Cup 2019!!!
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Post by stingray11214 on May 31, 2014 11:29:20 GMT 8
The difference is that we were 90 minutes from the AFC Asian Cup. Singapore and Thailand were a combined 1-0-11 in qualifying. We'll make the Finals this time. For me the Asian Cup would've been an honor. But you bring home a point that I've been thinking about if we had won this game. If Singapore and Thailand were a combined 1-0-11, how do you think the Azkals would fare against Japan, Jordan, and Iraq? Whenever I watch the World Cup, I could never watch much of a game where one team completely destroys another (e.g. North Korea vs. Portugal). I wouldn't want to see that with Team Azkals. I say go to the Asian Cup when we're more competitive. When I meant we'll make the Finals, it was for the Suzuki Cup. I truly believe we will make the Final. As for "being embarassed" if we were with Iraq, Jordan and Japan: I agree with you that we would have lost to Japan. Not as bad as Tajikistan did, but a 5/6-0 scoreline would not have surprised me. Japan is just that far ahead of us right now. However, Jordan is beatable and Iraq is fight-able. I actually believed that we could get points in that group. I still do. Jordan can put the planet to sleep, and play like they do not exist. A Jordan/Azkals match would be entertaining, and quite possibly be 3 points for the good guys. Iraq's problems are more internal. And when you have a country in turmoil (see Egypt), crazy things can happen on the pitch. Could we beat Iraq? It is possible. The talent is there. The problem we have is up front. A draw would have been more realistic. But, would the Azkals have embarrassed themselves like North Korea did in the last World Cup? Highly doubtful. What we need to do is for Dooley to start making phone calls. Set up a few internationals during the World Cup's knockout stages. Set up a home match with New Zealand, Canada or even Jamaica. Why not? indonesia brought in the Dominican Republic for a friendly earlier this week. Call up Albania's FA or Venezuela. Get matches for the Azkals to set up what you want for November. The next three years, make god-damned sure that EVERY FIFA International period have 1-2 friendlies in it, and I do not mean Guam, either. Make the Peace Cup mean something this year. Azkals, Canada, Afghanistan, and Cyprus. Why not? If you want to be with the big boys, you need to start playing the tweeners. Cyprus and Canada may not be much in their regions, but they would be in the World Cup right now if they were AFC members. Patch yourselves up, and start marching.
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Post by boybato on May 31, 2014 11:56:43 GMT 8
For me the Asian Cup would've been an honor. But you bring home a point that I've been thinking about if we had won this game. If Singapore and Thailand were a combined 1-0-11, how do you think the Azkals would fare against Japan, Jordan, and Iraq? Whenever I watch the World Cup, I could never watch much of a game where one team completely destroys another (e.g. North Korea vs. Portugal). I wouldn't want to see that with Team Azkals. I say go to the Asian Cup when we're more competitive. When I meant we'll make the Finals, it was for the Suzuki Cup. I truly believe we will make the Final. As for "being embarassed" if we were with Iraq, Jordan and Japan: I agree with you that we would have lost to Japan. Not as bad as Tajikistan did, but a 5/6-0 scoreline would not have surprised me. Japan is just that far ahead of us right now. However, Jordan is beatable and Iraq is fight-able. I actually believed that we could get points in that group. I still do. Jordan can put the planet to sleep, and play like they do not exist. A Jordan/Azkals match would be entertaining, and quite possibly be 3 points for the good guys. Iraq's problems are more internal. And when you have a country in turmoil (see Egypt), crazy things can happen on the pitch. Could we beat Iraq? It is possible. The talent is there. The problem we have is up front. A draw would have been more realistic. But, would the Azkals have embarrassed themselves like North Korea did in the last World Cup? Highly doubtful. What we need to do is for Dooley to start making phone calls. Set up a few internationals during the World Cup's knockout stages. Set up a home match with New Zealand, Canada or even Jamaica. Why not? indonesia brought in the Dominican Republic for a friendly earlier this week. Call up Albania's FA or Venezuela. Get matches for the Azkals to set up what you want for November. The next three years, make god-damned sure that EVERY FIFA International period have 1-2 friendlies in it, and I do not mean Guam, either. Make the Peace Cup mean something this year. Azkals, Canada, Afghanistan, and Cyprus. Why not? If you want to be with the big boys, you need to start playing the tweeners. Cyprus and Canada may not be much in their regions, but they would be in the World Cup right now if they were AFC members. Patch yourselves up, and start marching. I totally agree with this!! enough with the excuses "we have come a long way since 2010". Yes we have come a long way, but it is time to "start marching" forward. This group of guys have been together for a long time. Enough with all this excuses and its time for the Philippines to step up the competition. No more Guam, no more Taiwan. It is time for the Philippines to start playing tougher competitions. I am sick of this "We made history beating Maldives" "Beating Laos for the first time" crap. Seriously? people consider that history? Everytime we move up the ranking "history" again! Seriously? when your as low as the Phil everything is history! I mean the past 4 years is good, but Philippines have to move forward!
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Post by polarismtr on May 31, 2014 12:15:01 GMT 8
Jordan MNT's official match results since 2013
Jordan 5 - 0 Indonesia Jordan 4 - 0 Singapore Jordan 1 - 0 Belarus Jordan 2 - 1 Japan Jordan 1 - 0 Libya Australia 4 - 0 Jordan Jordan 1 - 0 Oman Jordan 4 - 1 Palestine Jordan 1 - 1 Syria Jordan 1 - 1 Uzbekistan Uzbekistan 1 - 1 Jordan Jordan 1 - 1 Kuwait Jordan 0 - 0 Oman Jordan 1 - 0 Nigeria Jordan 1 - 0 Zambia Jordan 0 - 5 Uruguay Uruguay 0 - 0 Jordan Jordan 0 - 0 Lebanon Jordan 1 - 0 Bahrain Qatar 2 - 0 Jordan Oman 0 - 0 Jordan Singapore 1 - 3 Jordan Jordan 2 - 1 Syria
And somebody says like Jordan is a evenly-matched team with the Azkals. Come on dude, they are playing in utterly different league. It almost sounds like, a fan of a lower tier club in England says "We can defeat Southampton or New Castle anytime"
I'm not trying to say we would have zero chance against Jordan or Iraq because anything can happen in football, just as lower tier clubs sometimes do defeat EPL clubs in Cup competitions, but regardless, they are still far ahead of us. Remember that the highest profile team the modern Azkals have ever beaten in any competition or friendly is still Vietnam or Singapore. Or you might say Turkmenistan or Tajikistan? Anyway, we have to prove something before acting like a powerhouse. A confidence and a groundless arrogance are two different attitudes.
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