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Post by idecris on Aug 9, 2014 20:04:40 GMT 8
More or less just 6 months experience as manager prior to joining the Azkals. So for all intents and purposes, he is still just a rookie manager. He will need a lot of feedback for improvement and he should be open to it.
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Post by idecris on Aug 10, 2014 11:05:10 GMT 8
After he lambasted the 3 guys for either not having a club (neil, dennis) or moving to a 2nd div club (schrock), he should be happy that no one pointed out why nobody wanted his services as head coach for twelve (12) years after his dismal stint in the 3rd tier league team 1. FC Saarbrucken.
I dont think I will ever forgive him on how he played the Philippines' hand so poorly in the Challenge cup final. The once in a blue moon shot revealed his incompetence.
True, he's brought a lot of positives to Philippine football (giving chances to other players, player development, innovative teaching training methods, statistical analytics,etc) but it's also possible he's also doing as much damage as he does good. Buti kung 2 steps forward, 1 step back. Well at least his contract is only for one year. We can continue the good things he started without him. Good luck na lang sa Azkals habang siya ang nasusunod.
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Post by cjeagle on Aug 14, 2014 16:49:57 GMT 8
Dooley had first hand experience on how selfishness within the national team could cause it to self destruct. Compared to the 1994 US team which was united and made it past the group stage in the World Cup, the 1998 team was a team in his words, of individuals, that had players who played only for themselves. He played for both teams. The US lost all 3 games in the group stage. This was his exact words in an interview he gave in February long before this controversy started:
"It’s the attitude you have. If someone comes in and thinks he is a big star or a big shot, that’s the first one that I would send home. If you have only ones who think they are the best, like in 1998, you should send them all home"
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Post by idecris on Aug 14, 2014 21:50:58 GMT 8
I don't think the issue is just about playing time. I don't know. Not really privy on what's going on with the team. At least they've already refrained from further attacks. Hopefully they just work it out. In the end, it's still a mutualism. Pride defeats the national teams' goals.
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Post by cjeagle on Aug 15, 2014 2:21:53 GMT 8
Well ever since Dooley decided to bring the hammer down in that PFF press conference(one of the most well attended in PFF history BTW), things seems to have quieted down a bit, with none of the parties involved posting anything inflammatory in social media or the press. I think they hopefully got the message, as the PFF and the media in the Philippines in general has backed Dooley's stand on this issue. You need to have a strong leader to have a successful team and Dooley has showed that he is strong enough to handle the big egos of some of his players. As the saying goes, you cannot have the inmates running the asylum. Otherwise, nothing gets accomplished.
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Post by cebujames on Aug 16, 2014 10:12:42 GMT 8
What I think though, is that losing Schrock, Cagara and Ethridge is a big loss. Coach Dooley can't say that can't say that it's with the experience and level of play they have currently. Those guys play on a high level of football. And they deserved to be called-up for the National Team right away, no questions asked. I understand Dooley's plan of putting up a team domestically but these players? We can't lose them. Not to disrespect the other players but these 3 players has an obvious advantage. I reckon, Dooley can be a great coach for the grasroots program.
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Post by cheeze on Aug 16, 2014 15:17:12 GMT 8
What I think though, is that losing Schrock, Cagara and Ethridge is a big loss. Coach Dooley can't say that can't say that it's with the experience and level of play they have currently. Those guys play on a high level of football. And they deserved to be called-up for the National Team right away, no questions asked. I understand Dooley's plan of putting up a team domestically but these players? We can't lose them. Not to disrespect the other players but these 3 players has an obvious advantage. I reckon, Dooley can be a great coach for the grasroots program. I'd take a fit Sato and Müller over "china doll" Etheridge and Cagara any day of the week. Schrock's attitude was also terrible. We can't afford to have any poison in the locker room. It's time to move on. Etheridge hasn't even played in a competitive league for crying out loud. As Dooley said, there's no point in wasting money in brining in players that don't even feature regularly for their club to sit on the National team's bench.
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Post by cjeagle on Aug 16, 2014 22:25:51 GMT 8
Dooley has made it clear that we will need strong players from abroad to reinforce our team, especially for the major tournaments. As for using friendlies and minor tournaments to evaluate new and younger players, that is common practice all over the world. Our European based players would not have been released anyway for the Suzuki Cup, so it was better to give other players a chance to achieve team chemistry. My guess is by the time WC qualifying starts next year, these other players will be back in the fold.
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Post by hat3trick on Aug 17, 2014 5:48:25 GMT 8
I Hate to see people turning their back to someone has done a lot for the team and facing for the players that still a lot to prove. Those players still deserved credits while giving credits for our present players now. Remember when they played well for our team, for sure each of you guys are also screaming for them, A.H !
Yes we need to progress for our future, But we cannot progress without looking back from where we are now.
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Post by Wiking on Aug 21, 2014 13:22:46 GMT 8
Cagara is still the most complete left back we have and played very well against all opponents he played against in the Challenge Cup including the Laos game(please watch the game on youtube and you'll see he had a goal saving intercept and more). He's big(not tall), fast, aggressive, takes no from the opponent, an excellent passer and has very high level football upbringing. Despite bouncing around clubs in Europe he still young enough and skillfull enough to be taken in by higher level clubs.
Etheridge has all the tools of a Euro football GK but at this point Muller by virtue of playing time, the sharper of the two(two PK blocks in two consecutive games, wow!). Neil better get a club soon even a lower league overseas so he can get some playing time for his sake.
Schrock? What a loss but it's a team sport and check out 2012 when we hardly had him, we did well even with no Schrock, Steuble & Chris Greatwich. I just hope they both lower their pride and open up some communications.
Fire Dooley? Heck No!
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Post by soyuz ibrahimovic on Aug 22, 2014 12:42:19 GMT 8
He was harsh with his words but hey, he's developing a local pool of readily available players. Firing him would be like how we treat local politics, one bad press and head gets chopped. Chemistry is more important than the pedigree and raw individual talent. I think Dooley is doing an OK job. To fire him would be like taking 3 steps back since we have already unlearned the long balls of the Weiss era.
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Post by Wiking on Aug 22, 2014 18:33:56 GMT 8
I hope we haven't "unlearned" the long ball, more like "know when to use them". That would be like taking away a weapon in our arsenal. I've never seen an Azkal game where there were no long ball used.
The game against Cambodia in last years Challenge Cup showed how deadly it could be when used against a certain type of opponent.
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Post by hat3trick on Sept 7, 2014 7:49:05 GMT 8
haha azkals looses, i guess he will reply we need this game to know where to adjust and to improve. Haha at hne soil karma tawag dito akala ko ok na sila kaso global nga pala kalaban last time young globals.
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Post by chizcake on Sept 7, 2014 8:47:13 GMT 8
overall its a great game and wecan see a system in place :-)
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Post by troubledmind on Sept 7, 2014 9:06:18 GMT 8
Whats with the hate hat3trick? I actually enjoyed the game as it provided more thrill unlike game we had against Chinese Taipei. Too bad we're at the losing end last night. We were just unlucky not to convert all the chances we had and the defense was a little bit sloppy. Also, props to Myanmar whom I think was more hungry taking back possessions. My 2 cents.
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