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Post by xyz1000 on Jul 11, 2011 22:59:28 GMT 8
I've been following the Azkals now for many, many years and when I started it disheartened me then to see scant media coverage for a game I knew that Pinoys would come to embrace. The coverage tended to be inaccurate, lacking in details, and at worse just plain wrong. The analysis was nonexistent or laughable. The forums were more accurate and I would piece together information from media coverage to figure out myself what's probably correct and what's not. Still, I can't recall a single report of irresponsible journalism. Inept, yes. Irresponsible, perhaps not unless one includes ineptness as also irresponsibility. Perhaps the first of these started just recently when I heard reports about then PFF president Martinez. And while we now know that much of the allegations were true, there was still a lot of irresponsible reporting regarding his story. Stories were based on other stories, not witnesses. Little attempt was made to cover the other side or to verify sources. These are basic, basic journalistic tenets.
Even then I knew without a doubt the football scene would explode. Here we are now amidst the explosion, and sad to say there's damage. The incredibly popular Azkals. Inept and irresponsible media. There's bound to be damage.
The GMA interviewer on Chieffy was actually tame, but she was fishing for an issue. Chieffy is just not media savvy, and I am sure he will learn to express himself better, if not more carefully. How many of you learned to be politically correct and how long did it take you?
But for Dyan Castillejo to pick up this story on such serious allegations from a well-known fraud, is irresponsibililty at the highest.
I'm starting a thread here as a plea to the media for more responsibility and accurate reporting. The Azkals deserve it, the Filipino people deserve it.
Discuss...
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Post by bnchzt on Jul 11, 2011 23:09:10 GMT 8
i would like to share this article w/c is already posted on diff thread. The Formidable Azkals versus Team Judas: Who would prevail? by: Idnod Sacam
With the recent rise of the Philippine Azkals to stardom, the internet is buzzing with the
latest news, Analysis of tactics and formations used in a game, recent call-ups and on the
entertainment side; who's dating who, players guesting on noontime shows and having product
endorsements. They are all part of football renaissance here in our country. They want to
spread and share their passion of playing football. In the world today, the only way the
Azkals could reach the far corners of the Philippines is through media since we are still in
the developing stage in football. Media is really a big help to the Philippine Azkals. It
made pinoys look back to the sport what they thought we would never taste pride and glory.
Media can unite Filipinos...
What media gives, media gets double...
This is what I am afraid of...they are helping the Azkals get attention of not just
Filipinos but also other countries and reach celebrity status at the same time, sucking them
dry. Bandwagoneering and overhyping is their secret weapon and the tactic? Strike whilst the
iron is hot! With these proven formula, media can easily break a person, a group, or even a
government just as how easy they could put someone in power. It could ignite chaos and wreck
havoc amongst fans, players and management.
It is starting already...
I have been lurking inside football forums for awhile now and all I can see is hatred! I was
so shocked to read all their comments about one another and/or towards an Azkal player.
Others are having "nagpapataasan ng ihi" debates and later on going to personal attacks.
What really bothers me is the racism issue and bashing of players. And guess who started it
all? MEDIA... thanks to the irresponsible journalism of known media personalities. Players
play with the ball and irresponsible journalists play with the players. Is it right to ask
questions about ethnicity and being pure-blooded Filipino football team to a player who does
not know the issue of racism and is caught off-guard? I would not name names here because
that Azkals player is someone i used to play football with. He has been playing football
with other foreign-based players for quite some time now that's why I knew the interview was
done in such a bad way that he was misunderstood. He used the wrong terms to answer such a
disgusting question. But who should be blamed?whose fault is it? should we bash that player
who scored the first goal in our historic first win in World Cup Qualifiers? should we
crucify him for using incorrect terms during the interview? He knew football all his life
but does he knew what responsible journalism is all about? The answer is given...
Damage has been done...
Should we let Team Judas prevail and see our National Football Team self-destruct?
You have the answer!
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Post by narko on Jul 11, 2011 23:37:59 GMT 8
In my line of work we have to deal with media. You have to be very careful at all times, there is never any guarantee that the message you wish to express will be correctly or accurately presented. It is very important to establish the right context and be wary of nuances that could easily be misunderstood or taken out of context. Dealing with media is like traversing a minefield, with their rising popularity the Azkals and their management should start keeping that in mind. Someone mentioned in these boards that they should start utilizing a media consultant, I agree. A good media consultant will be very valuable. He/she will know who they are dealing with and can choose the proper personality to face that person and prep them accordingly. The media consultant also acts as a buffer for the team, screening the requests for interviews. They can even set the parameters for the interviews. In fact they should, you are asking for an exclusive sure but here are the ground rules and the restrictions, if you don't want to follow it we can go somewhere else. Don't allow the interviewer to just take control of the whole proceedings. In some instances, some consultants require the interviewer to give a preview or overview of what the interviewer will be asking or how the interview will be conducted. Savvy media consultants also know who are the "friendly" media who will help spread the message clearly and who are the ones to avoid. For those interested about the pitfalls of media interviews, let me share this article by Sid Lowe who writes about the Spanish league (Spanish sports media are very partisan and notorious). It provides a fascinating insight to the difficulties players face when dealing with media, to a point where it would be better for them to not say anything at all: sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/sid_lowe/07/04/.comments/index.html?sct=sc_bf4_a2
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Post by Caz on Jul 12, 2011 1:07:27 GMT 8
I see Dyan with the Azkals a lot. Considering the bond she's developed with the team and its management, I doubt she had malicious intent in writing her report. Perhaps she just wanted the people involved to have their say before the inevitable wildfire ensues from such a media-"juicy" scoop.
Everyone has a responsibility here to support our team in one of its greatest trials. Let's help keep them focused and give them all the positive vibes they can get.
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Post by cowscrubber on Jul 12, 2011 1:41:19 GMT 8
I have to give it to the Azkals - they're handling the recent issue about 4 of the players really well.
What I don't like about the Azkals hype now is that they are being treated more as pop stars than athletes.
I mean, even in the article that narko posted, the controversial issue there was that the player said something like Real Madrid can never beat Barcelona - at least it's a sports issue. But what the media is doing to the Azkals is mostly entertainment-type issues like the Angel Locsin and Phil Younghusband stuff and the gang rape (sorry for mentioning that).
And for the few sports issues that they publish, they don't even check their facts. They can't even spell Ray Jonsson correctly!
It's really disappointing that Philippine media will stoop down to such a low level just to take advantage of a phenomenon.
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Post by slayermoonlight on Jul 12, 2011 1:52:01 GMT 8
It's really disappointing that Philippine media will stoop down to such a low level just to take advantage of a phenomenon. That's why take any news from the media with a grain of salt. That way, we don't get too upset.
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Post by badleftfoot on Jul 12, 2011 2:05:54 GMT 8
I agree 100% with narko ... like I mentioned in the Chieffy-bashing thread (sorry, had to say that), the Azkals is now bigger, a lot more people are following, heck, they are now even called pop stars ... so new rules are needed including being politically-correct ... I think the Azkals management have some personnel tasked with media relations ... so things can be started from there. Maybe next time, Chieffy can do a Mourinho ... say nothing during the required interview ... lol ...
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Post by bnchzt on Jul 12, 2011 2:32:38 GMT 8
I agree 100% with narko ... like I mentioned in the Chieffy-bashing thread (sorry, had to say that), the Azkals is now bigger, a lot more people are following, heck, they are now even called pop stars ... so new rules are needed including being politically-correct ... I think the Azkals management have some personnel tasked with media relations ... so things can be started from there. Maybe next time, Chieffy can do a Mourinho ... say nothing during the required interview ... lol ... Rick Olivares the man behind the bleachers' brew , is the Azkals media officer.
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Post by cowscrubber on Jul 12, 2011 3:05:30 GMT 8
I agree 100% with narko ... like I mentioned in the Chieffy-bashing thread (sorry, had to say that), the Azkals is now bigger, a lot more people are following, heck, they are now even called pop stars ... so new rules are needed including being politically-correct ... I think the Azkals management have some personnel tasked with media relations ... so things can be started from there. Maybe next time, Chieffy can do a Mourinho ... say nothing during the required interview ... lol ... Rick Olivares the man behind the bleachers' brew , is the Azkals media officer. He was the Azkals media officer for the Azkals during the past Suzuki Cup, and did a great job. He's also one of the better Filipino football writers I've encountered. But if I'm not mistaken, he's now the media officer of the entire PFF. I think the PFF media officer has enough responsibilities and the Azkals need a separate dedicated media officer. But with the lack of funds, that would probably not be possible.
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Post by xyz1000 on Jul 12, 2011 4:21:28 GMT 8
I see Dyan with the Azkals a lot. Considering the bond she's developed with the team and its management, I doubt she had malicious intent in writing her report. Perhaps she just wanted the people involved to have their say before the inevitable wildfire ensues from such a media-"juicy" scoop. Everyone has a responsibility here to support our team in one of its greatest trials. Let's help keep them focused and give them all the positive vibes they can get. As they say... the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Dyan's report is sympathetic to the Azkals. But that's not the point, is it? By reporting it in a major news outlet the issue comes to the forefront of discussions and it becomes fair for readers to think that there's a reasonable chance the allegations are true. If her intent was to preempt any scoops by having the players have their say, then it's all wrong. Leave the scoops to the sh*t. As a journalist of a major outlet, she should do her homework before even bringing up the story. I'm reading the story and all I can find is the accusation from PW who everyone here knows has no integrity. Is there a second source? Was there a motivation by the accuser in bringing this up? Would a good journalist print the accusations of someone with little or no integrity? Let the trashy newspapers do what they do. ABS-CBN should rise above the fray, do some real investigating, and then report if there's any content. Dyan Castillejo did no such thing.
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Post by pendong on Jul 12, 2011 5:05:02 GMT 8
I think Dyan Castillejo just made an outlet for the guys to defend themselves and air their sides because the news has already spread in the front pages of tabloids here in the country, aside from the fact that other TV networks like TV5 and GMA already picked this story up for their banner newscasts.
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Post by royg on Jul 12, 2011 5:23:48 GMT 8
I think Dyan should also put more information about Paul Weiler.
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Post by xyz1000 on Jul 12, 2011 7:10:06 GMT 8
I think Dyan Castillejo just made an outlet for the guys to defend themselves and air their sides because the news has already spread in the front pages of tabloids here in the country, aside from the fact that other TV networks like TV5 and GMA already picked this story up for their banner newscasts. I find it incredible how this story has progressed. All because of a PW accusation. A responsible journalist would wait for someone who was closer to the alleged rape victim to make the statement. Or how about this -- the alleged rape victim statement. What was PW's relationship to the alleged victim? Has anyone talked about that? How does he know? I haven't heard any of the sort in any of the stories! Incredible. A more responsible journalist would include whether the identity of the alleged victim is known, what the relationship is to PW, why wait one month before accusing, etc. If PW was not contacted, then say so -- something like "calls and emails to PW were unanswered to verify the accusation, and only the daily journal yyy was able to receive the accusation." This situation is just sad. I hope we call look forward to better and more responsible reporting from here on.
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Post by rjdaman on Jul 12, 2011 8:24:45 GMT 8
He was the Azkals media officer for the Azkals during the past Suzuki Cup, and did a great job. He's also one of the better Filipino football writers I've encountered.
But if I'm not mistaken, he's now the media officer of the entire PFF.
I think the PFF media officer has enough responsibilities and the Azkals need a separate dedicated media officer. But with the lack of funds, that would probably not be possible.
PLEASE be advised a media officer does not know how to conduct proper media training. Usually this is provided by PR media firms. Given the current media attention they have been receiving I hope they get proper media training so they will know how to answer media questions properly and avoid all these pitfalls.
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Post by sheajane80 on Jul 12, 2011 9:10:56 GMT 8
nge gusto mo hindi ibabalita ng abs ang allegation na yan kahit binalita na sa tv5 at gma? now what does that look like? nangangamoy cover-up by abs. kung ganyan ginawa ng abs even if it has already being reported in the other channels, people would really think na baka totoo nga.
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