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Post by dan17808 on Sept 26, 2011 3:04:45 GMT 8
Wow 81 years old TCT!  whoever owns the complex, they should sell it to La Salle, it will benefit the university better than the other private companies. These big companies should build their own stadiums! and create their own Football clubs. only wishful thinking. |
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Post by xyz1000 on Sept 26, 2011 4:36:43 GMT 8
If the Rizal complex is sold to private entities including La Salle, my thinking is that the new owners can do whatever they want with the land, including hotels and condominiums. It's prime real estate, after all. Same thing happened to the areas about Fort Bonifacio.
Isn't that what the story is about? So where will the Azkals play international matches in the Manila region if the sports complex is turned into hotels and condominiums?
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Post by narko on Sept 26, 2011 11:50:36 GMT 8
Good point xyz1000. Building a new stadium to replace Rizal Stadium might be a good idea if it is a large capacity one that can accommodate 30-50,000 spectators but that is a major investment and will take years to complete. This is for the long term if they really intend to push with that plan. What will the PFF do in the meantime for matches it can and should host in the NCR? Based on the experience with the WCQ matches, PFF turned in a profit even with just the 13-14,000 capacity of Rizal. This is still an important revenue stream for the PFF and its programs so the stakeholders involved in this so-called proposal should think really hard about it. My fear is that the 10 billion peso price tag might just cause some people to rush into this matter without thinking and planning for it thoroughly and in the best interests for all concerned.
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Post by Striker_Manager_and_Owner on Sept 26, 2011 14:09:22 GMT 8
I think there is space in muntinlupa (alabang) for a stadium. Also in Bulacan and Quezon city. All of these sites are near or in the metro and would be a good spot to put a good sized (30k - 50k) stadium.
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Post by turnmyswagon10 on Sept 26, 2011 17:35:36 GMT 8
What about the INC. Stadium in Bulacan? 2014 is the deadline.
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Post by Striker_Manager_and_Owner on Sept 26, 2011 22:20:15 GMT 8
The INC stadium is not going to host football games. Its for their religious activities.
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Post by cjeagle on Sept 27, 2011 1:45:08 GMT 8
I am not in favor of tearing Rizal down for several reasons. Although football will lose its home for a short while, with international games maybe temporarily being played in Panaad and Philsports, I am quite sure with its current popularity and proven ability to create revenue for itself, that they will build a new one maybe even better or bigger.
I know it is out of topic, but I am more concerned with the less popular sports like baseball. They will lose their home, without the popular backing and financing to build a new one. Whatever revenue they earn from selling Rizal will not be enough to replace all the stadiums for different sports that will be torn down. The other reason I hesitate in tearing it down is purely sentimental, the history that was made there that helped galvanize our identity as a nation called the Philippines. The victories and yes losses of a Philippine team in various sports that every Filipino from the time of the Philippine commonwealth to the modern era, which helped shape our identity as a nation will be lost, when this icon of Philippine sports is torn down to make way for ordinary condos and hotels. It is a venue where great athletes from around the world like Babe Ruth had played in the past and where our greatest achievements in the sporting arena has been witnessed and celebrated. How can we justify tearing this down, in the name of profit?
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Post by teddyandtimmysdad on Sept 27, 2011 8:49:25 GMT 8
hahaha welcome to the real world cjeagle. if the land is worth p10bn, there is no doubt someone like SM would waste no time in tearing down everything and mounting a mega retail/commercial/residential complex. kiss the sports, and any memories associated with the property, goodbye. I'm not even sure la salle could avoid this temptation.
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Post by cjeagle on Sept 27, 2011 13:51:53 GMT 8
Well, it is not a done deal yet. The city of Manila and the govt has to agree on the sale. The National Historical Institute might step in and decide to stop the sale as well. Other NSA's have to give their input to the PSA including those who might be losing a home. The PFF itself just spend millions of pesos renovating the stadium and that investment was meant to allow them to have a venue to hold international events and that would be wasted. I remember reading that the PFF asked the PSC if they are willing to share the costs of maintaining the field but apparently since the PSC has plans of selling the whole complex, they said no. Hence the field from all accounts has deteriorated. Any plans of repairing the scoreboard has been put on hold so the PFF is now left to rent equipment whenever an international event is scheduled. It is really too bad after all the effort done already to help meet FIFA standards at the stadium.
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Post by CVROM on Sept 28, 2011 15:51:02 GMT 8
the legendary RMS still an alternative venue
i hope they will not demolish this historic landmark
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Post by narko on Sept 28, 2011 17:05:30 GMT 8
cvrom, being a historic landmark is not a guarantee. We are talking about the city of Manila who tore down historic landmarks such as the Jai Alai building and the Paco Train station and that was even in the face of protests and cases filed in court to stop the demolition specifically on the basis that the building is a historic and cultural landmark. I share the same concerns cjeagle expressed. Hopefully, sensible heads will prevail, but when the peso signs start flashing, good sense somehow seems to fly out of the window.
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Post by kulaspero15 on Sept 28, 2011 20:14:20 GMT 8
I was informed by my friend who's into real estate business that there are plans to build a fifa regulation football field in BGC (bonifacio global city). Too bad it isn't a 30K capacity stadium that will replace RMC. Nevertheless, still a positive news for all football fans!
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Post by cjeagle on Sept 29, 2011 5:04:55 GMT 8
narko,
I think there will be a lot more opposition to tearing down Rizal than the Jai Alai building or Paco Train station. Think about the generations of athletes who have played there and the spectators who have witnessed and celebrated their victories and defeats. Some of them have risen up to be decision makers themselves and are involved in government or the business community so they will have a say in any decision made concerning Rizal.
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Post by dan17808 on Sept 29, 2011 5:54:59 GMT 8
Demolish and Rebuild... same name, same functions, but new design. ;D perhaps a larger capacity if possible, though some sports activities might be taken for granted.  no worries for all in terms of structural stability since its new (if not corruptly done!)  |
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Post by narko on Oct 1, 2011 16:30:26 GMT 8
narko, I think there will be a lot more opposition to tearing down Rizal than the Jai Alai building or Paco Train station. Think about the generations of athletes who have played there and the spectators who have witnessed and celebrated their victories and defeats. Some of them have risen up to be decision makers themselves and are involved in government or the business community so they will have a say in any decision made concerning Rizal. I truly hope so cjeagle... |
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whoever owns the complex, they should sell it to La Salle, it will benefit the university better than the other private companies. These big companies should build their own stadiums! 
