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Post by teddyandtimmysdad on Feb 8, 2013 2:45:01 GMT 8
Some of my friends have further tried to detract from OJ's goal, saying the keeper was at fault or mishandled it, "the ball was within reach", etc etc. IMHO not true on all counts. There are replays of the goal which are filmed from behind the keeper. The keeper begins to move right to protect the short side. As he is moving right, OJ cleverly slams the ball in the other direction. The view from behind clearly shows the keeper had no chance, it was well out of reach due to a quality strike from OJ. This was the significant quality missing from Myanmar all night - excellence in finishing the strike. This is why the win was NOT lucky. The win was due to poor finishing by Myanmar. Go back and watch the replays of their 14 shots on goal. Of the 9 which were on target, most were either very weak or right in the arms of Neil. This was not a lucky win. Maybe they had more possession, fine. But we had the better finishing and the scoreline bears this out.
Great job Azkals - you are now 17 wins, 11 draws, against only 10 losses under the leadership of Michael Weiss.
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Post by random on Feb 8, 2013 4:49:55 GMT 8
It was a world-class strike from Porteria, he kicked it purposefully to give it a right-hand spin, the Myanmar GK wrongly thought that it would just fly straight toward the right side of his goal and he moved right at first before realizing too late that it was spinning to his left. No GK in the world would have reached that ball the way it moved through the air.
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Post by Caz on Feb 8, 2013 9:08:27 GMT 8
BTW, I think the discussion on "luck" is a healthy one. No worries from us mods on that. However, I would refrain from personally attacking fellow posters here. Keep in mind that this forum topic is open to all Azkals fans regardless of the depth of their knowledge of sports. All have the right to an opinion here so long as they adhere to the forum rules. Passion is most welcome! Let's keep this a fun place to discuss our team, yeah?
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Post by dingodile5 on Feb 8, 2013 9:09:34 GMT 8
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Post by butchok on Feb 8, 2013 9:10:47 GMT 8
There's a glaring weaknesses in the back four that needs to be addressed for next matches. In Myanmar match I understand that with exception of Rob Gier the three others (De Jong, Christiaens and Ott) who man the backline were playing out of their natural positions. So we have a manpower shortage there. Luis Guirado was sorely missed as Gier's partner as centrebacks. While Christiaens and De Jong were experimented and tried before that can't be said to Ott who was lost in his new strange right flank.
Comes Challenge Cup I believe Gier-L.Guirado tandem is the most potent defensive wall that Philippines can offer. But I think we can't forever rely on said tandem, the PFF must start looking for young centerbacks preferably after the Cup.
As we know both (Gier-L.Guirado) are overseas-based and have job and family to feed and look after with. Aside from free airfares and accomodation they play pro bono for the Azkals. So win or loss they already did a heroic undertaking whenever they come over to play for our national team.
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Post by mike fil montz on Feb 8, 2013 18:07:23 GMT 8
I know he's injured and I knew he's a LB.. sans the Q.. zzz
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Post by teddyandtimmysdad on Feb 8, 2013 22:22:10 GMT 8
Butchok - I think your post is spot on, I can't agree more.
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Post by teddyandtimmysdad on Feb 8, 2013 22:26:27 GMT 8
I am curious... I see above that there has been a donation to the PFF on behalf of the Pablo victims. But, the PFF is not an aid agency, so how does that work? Surely the PFF has enough on their plate, without trying to duplicate the efforts of other organizations better equipped to handle and fairly distribute funds to deserving and needy people? Does anyone know how this works? Would be very curious to know...
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Post by Caz on Feb 8, 2013 22:35:49 GMT 8
I'm actually liking Christiaens on LB. But De Jong and Ott (the latter in particular) were struggling in their positions against Myanmar. Gier showed his class during the match though. Lots of experience paying off.
But we are glaringly thin on options for defenders in the current Azkals pool. Quite strange considering the quality available in the UFL and UAAP. Here's hoping the young players get their shot for country soon.
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Post by chizcake on Feb 9, 2013 0:28:25 GMT 8
There's a glaring weaknesses in the back four that needs to be addressed for next matches. In Myanmar match I understand that with exception of Rob Gier the three others (De Jong, Christiaens and Ott) who man the backline were playing out of their natural positions. So we have a manpower shortage there. Luis Guirado was sorely missed as Gier's partner as centrebacks. While Christiaens and De Jong were experimented and tried before that can't be said to Ott who was lost in his new strange right flank. Comes Challenge Cup I believe Gier-L.Guirado tandem is the most potent defensive wall that Philippines can offer. But I think we can't forever rely on said tandem, the PFF must start looking for young centerbacks preferably after the Cup. As we know both (Gier-L.Guirado) are overseas-based and have job and family to feed and look after with. Aside from free airfares and accomodation they play pro bono for the Azkals. So win or loss they already did a heroic undertaking whenever they come over to play for our national team. sir may i know why Guirado brothers are not on the line up? thanks
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Post by santongbusabos on Feb 9, 2013 1:11:25 GMT 8
I'm actually liking Christiaens on LB. But De Jong and Ott (the latter in particular) were struggling in their positions against Myanmar. Gier showed his class during the match though. Lots of experience paying off. But we are glaringly thin on options for defenders in the current Azkals pool. Quite strange considering the quality available in the UFL and UAAP. Here's hoping the young players get their shot for country soon. as per bob guerrero's article, most of the CBs in the UFL are foreign born players with the exception of jason Cordova of Ceres. the problem with our young CBs who are playing for UAAP or playing in the Visayas and Mindanao region is their height. what makes gier, juani guirado, and aly borromeo effective CB is their height. in case of cordova, as i've seen it on tv, hindi siya ganun katangkaran. what we need is to train tall defensive midfielders who are in their teens or late teens and convert them to defenders. i'm betting gier and juani has a year or two playing for the team and we need young defenders as soon as possible.
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Post by jvictor on Feb 9, 2013 3:53:21 GMT 8
We have defenders but what they don't have is height, no offense guys.
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Post by opn on Feb 9, 2013 5:40:12 GMT 8
There's an interesting twitter convo between Mike Limpag, Ace Bright et al regarding this issue. Accg to Mike Limpag, there's a 17 yr old CB from Cebu who is 6 ft tall that maybe the team can call and train. To which Ace Bright responded about the calling local players but they don't show up or if they show up they can't commit to the NT. I'm just not sure if Ace Bright is referring to Cordoba or the 6 ft 17 yr old lad.
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Post by orwat on Feb 9, 2013 8:21:17 GMT 8
2 years is not enough if you have a ragtag squad, you have very few football pitch in the country, and your football management (PFF) is incapable (especially in the financial aspect) of implementing it. And I'm not yet factoring our the coach we have. (the coach donated to us by Bundesliga because PFF is not willing to spend a single peso to invest for a more capable coach).
- Ragtag team applies to the team before Weiss.. We have players with better credentials and experience than some of the top teams in the ASEAN. You don't need to have so many good football pitches to train the National Team. It's more important with grassroots development and its effect will still take some time so the few football pitches has nothing to do with the performance of team right now. PFF may have been incapable financially in the long term but the support given to Weiss ( just look at the camps he had ) is comparable if not more than those enjoyed by the other ASEAN teams. There was even an article that says the AZKALS are the best prepared team in the recent Suzuki Cup.
Perhaps those here who says the Azkals are "keeps on winning through luck" and also those rabid Weiss haters should donate at least 100K pesos a month so we could hire a better coach with a credible football system to introduce to the national team. If we could generate 600K to 1M pesos a month maybe we'll be lucky to hire Zico. - We all know that we can't afford Zico or the likes but we know we can get a better coach than Weiss with the amount paid to him. It would be good to have a list of "realistic" local or foreign coaches with the required licenses that could possibly replace him. Am sure we can get one better than him. The advantage of having Weiss is his connections abroad in arranging camps and friendlies but isn't it this is suppose to be the job of PFF or the team management?
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Post by jvictor on Feb 9, 2013 11:49:06 GMT 8
Chad Gould was converted to CB by Meralco. He's a good one to try he has height and skill. Don't how he is in that position though I haven't seen him play in UFL. Any reviews on how he is doing?
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