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Post by xyz1000 on Nov 10, 2014 2:54:37 GMT 8
Very difficult to get anything good out of this game. No positives to take away from. Possession, low. Short passing, errant. Attacks, few. Defense, leaky. Goalkeeping, meh. The only good thing out of this is that the alarm bells are now ringing. If one can even call that a good thing.
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Post by cjeagle on Nov 10, 2014 6:05:28 GMT 8
Well you learn more from absorbing tough defeats from good opponents than the easy wins they have had so far against less than stellar opposition. What matters is that they take the proper lessons from these setback and work on their weaknesses. Hopefully the arrival of Jerry Lucena and possibly Mike Ott and Mueller(in goal) will help change the dynamics of the midfield and defence, next time we face the Thais, which won't be until the knockout stage, in the semis and finals if both teams make it that far.
Acc. to one of the articles I have read, this is the worst defeat for the Azkals since Dooley took over the team.
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Post by orwat on Nov 10, 2014 8:19:22 GMT 8
I believe this will be the most beneficial friendly that they had so far leading to the Suzuki Cup. It gave Dooley a first hand look at what it takes to win the cup. I believe he was still on experimental mode. No Sato and Hartmann on the field. Our left back was so weak and the Thais knew where to attack. It would have been interesting how Sato would have faired in that position. While our backs may have the pace ( except for Gier ), they failed miserably in organization specially against a team that has intent in every pass. The Thais showed that they will capitalize in every mistake with the first two goals. James is just too slow and becoming a liability. Having Mark in the striker position would have made things different but not as big if Patino can play. I think a deadly striker like Patino is what the Azkals need more than Shrock. Mike Ott will be our next best option so praying that he gets to play. While I thought that our ball possession has improved a lot, it was not the case against very organized and fast teams. The game showed that our passing and movements are too slow.The player were too tentative in everything they lack the creativity to penetrate the Thais. I hope its not too late to address these weaknesses. With Gier slowing down, I prefer Silva, Guirado, Rota and Sato in the back. Lucena, Ott, Reichelt and Steuble in the mid with Phil as a withdrawn striker and Hartmann in front ( though having Patino or Mike Ott would be best ).
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Post by cheezewhiz on Nov 10, 2014 13:35:13 GMT 8
I always hate losing to our ASEAN counterparts, it didn't hurt when we lost to UAE 4 to nil considering the depth of our squad before.
I felt like our midfielders were not doing their jobs plus the fact of the poor performance of our number one domestic goalkeeper.. The last two goals could be prevented by him. He is not yet up to the standard of Neil Etheridge and Roland Muller. He needs to level up his performance or else the PFF should find another overseas GK.
I think there is one young GK playing in Denmark that the PFF must try fielding to compete with Deyto in case Neil and Roland are absent.
The azkals still needs its European players especially stephan schrock to advance to semi-finals but I still pray that azkals will surpass their performance in the last two edition of suzuki cup.
Dapat bilisan na ng PFF ang pag-tatayo ng national league at yung top teams makapaglaro first at least in AFC Cup para ma-experience ang international play ng mga pinoy booters hindi yung sa pafriendly friendly lang ng azkals.
These Thailand players are playing at the highest level of football play in Asia the AFC Champions League eh tayo domestic lang.. expect the difference in skills at maturity ng players.
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Post by orangepink on Nov 10, 2014 13:50:57 GMT 8
What are the chances of Mike Ott playing? I just read it here in this forum but none elsewhere. It looks like he won't be able to play (?) Plus he hasn't played with the team too.
Its unfortunate that Javi could not play. Out of the overseas players, he's at the top of my list of who we really need.
Will Jerry Lucena be available?
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Post by bluefeathers18 on Nov 10, 2014 16:15:53 GMT 8
Very difficult to get anything good out of this game. No positives to take away from. Possession, low. Short passing, errant. Attacks, few. Defense, leaky. Goalkeeping, meh. The only good thing out of this is that the alarm bells are now ringing. If one can even call that a good thing.
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Post by cjeagle on Nov 10, 2014 17:03:04 GMT 8
I always hate losing to our ASEAN counterparts, it didn't hurt when we lost to UAE 4 to nil considering the depth of our squad before. I felt like our midfielders were not doing their jobs plus the fact of the poor performance of our number one domestic goalkeeper.. The last two goals could be prevented by him. He is not yet up to the standard of Neil Etheridge and Roland Muller. He needs to level up his performance or else the PFF should find another overseas GK. I think there is one young GK playing in Denmark that the PFF must try fielding to compete with Deyto in case Neil and Roland are absent. The azkals still needs its European players especially stephan schrock to advance to semi-finals but I still pray that azkals will surpass their performance in the last two edition of suzuki cup. Dapat bilisan na ng PFF ang pag-tatayo ng national league at yung top teams makapaglaro first at least in AFC Cup para ma-experience ang international play ng mga pinoy booters hindi yung sa pafriendly friendly lang ng azkals. These Thailand players are playing at the highest level of football play in Asia the AFC Champions League eh tayo domestic lang.. expect the difference in skills at maturity ng players. The UFL have participated in the AFC President's Cup(for lower tier countries) for the past 2 or 3 years now(Ceres was our rep this year). Starting next year with the abolition of the President's Cup, all the countries with teams not participating in the AFC Champion's League, will participate in an expanded AFC Cup instead, including the Philippines.
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Post by xyz1000 on Nov 10, 2014 19:29:21 GMT 8
Very difficult to get anything good out of this game. No positives to take away from. Possession, low. Short passing, errant. Attacks, few. Defense, leaky. Goalkeeping, meh. The only good thing out of this is that the alarm bells are now ringing. If one can even call that a good thing. If you remove all the friendlies and include the games that really count, e.g. World Cup qualification, you'll have a better picture of Weiss's Azkals. That comparison deserves a place along side the tabloid headlines. I'd rather have Dooley than Weiss any day.
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Post by cheezewhiz on Nov 10, 2014 19:44:00 GMT 8
Ang maganda lang kay Weiss is yung paghandle niya ng internal problems within the team hindi kagaya ni Dooley na nagpapresscon pa para lang icritize yung mga Filipino players natin and pansin ko mas fit ang players under sa kaniya... un nga lang technique and strategy wise kay dooley ako.
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Post by chizcake on Nov 10, 2014 21:03:20 GMT 8
we missed the midfield in my thought on this game, for me only stueble is active on that part (though medyo kung saan saan sya napupunta pero sya ang masipag that day , kudos to him)
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Post by paulino19 on Nov 11, 2014 0:51:25 GMT 8
If you remove all the friendlies and include the games that really count, e.g. World Cup qualification, you'll have a better picture of Weiss's Azkals. That comparison deserves a place along side the tabloid headlines. I'd rather have Dooley than Weiss any day. I second that motion. Dooley and Weiss are on the same level pretty much when it comes to coaching experience. But Dooley is way ahead of Weiss when it comes to playing experience. He's a former captain of a national team, and a World Cup veteran, along with playing experience at the top professional level ... Weiss can't beat this. Dooley is a former top tier player, so he knows the mentality of the players, and he knows how to approach these players. He can relate to them. That's very important when you're a head coach. Pep Guardiola of Barcelona was Barcelona and Spain's former captain, but he had only Barcelona B coaching experience before he took over for Barca's first team in 2008 and look what happened? Pep won everything you can think of. Now, Dooley and Pep are on different coaching levels, of course. At this level of football, Southeast Asian, Dooley has done well with the Azkals. He has implemented an attacking, forward-thinking, hard-pressing, positive style of play that the players have adapted to. They need tougher matches to perfect this style of play because the pressure from higher-level teams will improve their confidence on the ball. "Training matches" like Papua New Guinea and Nepal don't help at all. The Azkals are beyond that level now and need to keep moving up the ladder, not slide back down. Although we lost, the Thailand match was a wakeup call. We needed that. It was a much-needed match. Dooley has implemented a mentality that will help this team greatly, not just now, but in the future. His tactics need to be ingrained because they are perfect for the Filipino footballer. Weiss kick-and-rush style is for grade school kids. It does not serve Philippine football at all. It insults and does not complement our players at all.
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Post by cjeagle on Nov 11, 2014 3:26:31 GMT 8
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Post by tipo on Nov 11, 2014 4:44:14 GMT 8
Ang maganda lang kay Weiss is yung paghandle niya ng internal problems within the team hindi kagaya ni Dooley na nagpapresscon pa para lang icritize yung mga Filipino players natin and pansin ko mas fit ang players under sa kaniya... un nga lang technique and strategy wise kay dooley ako. OT: hindi rin, madami din ang players na dissatisfied kay Weiss at nagparinig sa twitter di lang napapansin. Nagpapresscon din si Weiss during the Younghusband Brothers exclusion at hindi lang players ang crini-criticize nya pati media at fans. Only difference ay si Schrock. Hinayaan sya ni Weiss gawin gusto nya while si Dooley ay may guts na ibench siya.
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Post by cjeagle on Nov 11, 2014 5:34:03 GMT 8
Philippine national men’s football team coach Thomas Dooley considers Thailand as one of the contenders for the ASEAN Football Federation Suzuki Cup crown that kicks off this November. Dooley made the statement following the Azkals’ 3-nil loss to the Thais on Sunday night in Nakhon Ratchasima, his worst loss since taking over the squad. “It was a good game for us to see what to expect in the AFF Suzuki Cup,” Dooley said after the game. “(It was an) excellent game from the Thailand team. With the way they played, they are the favorites in the AFF Suzuki Cup.” Thailand, one of the strongest teams in Southeast Asia, have won three Suzuki Cup crowns. It fell short of hoisting a fourth one after losing to Singapore in the finals in 2012. Dooley also expressed his disappointment with the result, but remained optimistic as he said that his team’s focus is the Suzuki Cup where the coach is targeting to surpass the Azkals’ past two semifinal finishes in the tournament. “I’m not happy that we lost, but on the other side, the AFF Suzuki Cup is more important.” www.interaksyon.com/interakt...ey-sees-thailand-as-suzuki-cup-title-favorite
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Post by cjeagle on Nov 11, 2014 6:05:35 GMT 8
BTW, Thailand's best player against us, Charyl Chappuis is a Swiss Thai, played for the Swiss youth teams from U-15 to U-20, and is a product of the Grasshoppers developmental system, a famous Swiss club. www.affsuzukicup.com/news/thailand-gallop-to-victory-over-philippinesMany of the players in this young Thailand team incl. Chappuis were members of the Asian games squad that made it to the semifinals of that event. They are exposed to top caliber professional Asian competition in AFC Champion's league play and have been playing in the best league in SEA. So I agree with Dooley's assessment that they are one of the favorites to win it all. But then again so are we.
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