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Post by cjeagle on Mar 9, 2011 0:39:43 GMT 8
Apparently the PFF has elected not to participate in any of the AFC youth competitions at U-23(Olympic qualifiers), U-19, and U-16 competitions. We are one of the few countries in Asia that have decided to do this in all 3 events. www.the-afc.com/en/tournaments/men-a-youth/afc-u19-championship/33661-afc-u-19s-dprk-lead-rankingsfilipinofootball.blogspot.com/2011/03/philippines-drop-afc-u-16-and-u-19.html?showComment=1299600235572#c3658822880426392337FIFA sends its annual funding($250000) on top of the $300000(share from the World Cup) to its member associations to help the FA's organize its teams incl. also the women's teams which have been neglected in the past as well. Not joining the Olympic qualifiers was a decision made under the discredited previous administration. But the decision for the U-19 and U-16 was under Araneta. Youth competition are important to develop the local players that will eventually make up the senior team. If we don't want to be dependent upon our players based abroad we need to develop our youth. New administration. Same lack of vision when it comes to youth competitions. I am starting to feel that this administration is not living up to its promises. Dan Palami in Cebu told the assembled press that it is the responsibility of the media to be vigilant in rooting out corruption in the organization and to highlight any promises that are not being fulfilled. It is time to ask the hard questions folks. Honeymoons over. |
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Post by distance7 on Mar 9, 2011 1:42:05 GMT 8
now this is a slap. they're just gonna bank on the senior team, the ones enjoying the limelight? ano mangyayari pag lumipas na sila?
grabe, there wouldn't be any people like Giggs, Beckham, Rooney, Ronaldo (lol ManU) fan without youth development. I don't know what their exact reasons for this is, siguro baka kulang pa sa equipment and stuff and they want to iron those out first, but still, these are opportunities we're missing.
just like in the game, if you don't take your chances, you're never gonna score right?
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Post by cjeagle on Mar 9, 2011 5:15:14 GMT 8
Perhaps they should have consulted Coach Weiss about the importance of youth teams in developing the depth of the senior team. Weiss was in charge of the highly successful U-17 program of Rwanda that led to Rwanda becoming the first nation from Africa qualifying to the U-17 World Cup. Some of his players in the past have gone on to graduate to the senior team.
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Post by dyoizee on Mar 9, 2011 8:43:47 GMT 8
now this is a slap. they're just gonna bank on the senior team, the ones enjoying the limelight? ano mangyayari pag lumipas na sila? grabe, there wouldn't be any people like Giggs, Beckham, Rooney, Ronaldo (lol ManU) fan without youth development. I don't know what their exact reasons for this is, siguro baka kulang pa sa equipment and stuff and they want to iron those out first, but still, these are opportunities we're missing. just like in the game, if you don't take your chances, you're never gonna score right? that is such a big opportunity to let pass.. kahit naman kulang sa equipment or stuff we can make it happen. azkals is the perfect example! |
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Post by Ms. Sarah Crews on Mar 9, 2011 9:19:36 GMT 8
sad to tell, pero mukang Azkals lang ang football team sa pilipinas..
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Post by beho on Mar 9, 2011 10:52:30 GMT 8
;Dlet's give this time the pff the benefit of the doubt, i mean alanganin kung basta nlang sasali sa mga international age-group competitions, we should all start from the beginning again, remember the change of leadership within the pff happened just very recent, ni wala nga tayong national under-23, under-19 champions, then how do you expect us to compete well in those international meets? so go figure, kelangan national championships muna tapos either selection or try-outs then most importantly traning as a team then that's the only time we could give our opponents abroad a run for their money. ;D
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Post by vimjonk on Mar 9, 2011 11:03:16 GMT 8
There is not enough time to form the team and with enough fixtures to deal with, I'm sure Coach Weiss can't handle three teams separately. The Senior and the Under-23 teams are enough to make his hands full  |
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Post by cjeagle on Mar 9, 2011 11:10:53 GMT 8
C'mon Beho. Did you know that smaller nations like Timor Leste who have very little funding and a very small population, have done well in these youth tournaments? They use this tournaments to develop players who go on to the next level. We are one of a very few countries in the world who never participate in these tournaments. We didn't even participate in the last 2 WC qualifying competitions, something we hold in common only with 2 other nations Brunei, and Laos. FIFA gives each FA $250000 each year so they can fund their teams. There is really no excuse to participate. The Germans have commented about how disorganized we are and how we don't plan for the future. That is why we are dependent upon our foreign based players. Without them we would have gotten whitewashed again even by our smaller neighbors. If you want to start slow, then at least form a U-17 team which you can develop to the next level and so forth. We just basically give up from the get go. Pathetic. As for coaches, who said we have to hire a foreign coach. This teams can serve as a training ground for our promising coaches as well. If we have the funding, go ahead hire the best foreign coach we can find but if not, stick to our local coaches.
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Post by beho on Mar 9, 2011 11:47:00 GMT 8
C'mon Beho. Did you know that smaller nations like Timor Leste who have very little funding and a very small population, have done well in these youth tournaments? They use this tournaments to develop players who go on to the next level. We are one of a very few countries in the world who never participate in these tournaments. We didn't even participate in the last 2 WC qualifying competitions, something we hold in common only with 2 other nations Brunei, and Laos. FIFA gives each FA $250000 each year so they can fund their teams. There is really no excuse to participate. The Germans have commented about how disorganized we are and how we don't plan for the future. That is why we are dependent upon our foreign based players. Without them we would have gotten whitewashed again even by our smaller neighbors. If you want to start slow, then at least form a U-17 team which you can develop to the next level and so forth. We just basically give up from the get go. Pathetic. As for coaches, who said we have to hire a foreign coach. This teams can serve as a training ground for our promising coaches as well. If we have the funding, go ahead hire the best foreign coach we can find but if not, stick to our local coaches. ] ;Dyeah indeed, timor leste is definitely a smaller country than the phils. but it is a football loving country, you can see people playing pick-ip football games on the streets practically just all over the world except for a few countries like the phils. in particular, what i'm trying to drive at is of course it's easy to form a rag-tag team just for the sake of being included in foreign meets, if the team wont be prepared to be competitive then it'll just be a watse of time & funds, why not start a national age-group league first before we go international. ;D |
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Post by cjeagle on Mar 9, 2011 11:59:47 GMT 8
About Timor Leste, we have regions and islands in the Western Visayas where football is the one sport and their population is bigger than Timor Leste. We can form a team just based on those kids in this islands. without other regions participating and have a competitive team already.
The PFF are planning tournaments already and they are planning on forming a U-19 team under Charlie Cojuangco which will particpate in AFF(Asean) U-19 competitions. I don't see why we can't use this team for the AFC competitions as well. As for reinforcements I know kids here in the US who can join this teams and make them competitive, if they find the funding to bring these kids over there.
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Post by beho on Mar 9, 2011 13:19:29 GMT 8
About Timor Leste, we have regions and islands in the Western Visayas where football is the one sport and their population is bigger than Timor Leste. We can form a team just based on those kids in this islands. without other regions participating and have a competitive team already. The PFF are planning tournaments already and they are planning on forming a U-19 team under Charlie Cojuangco which will particpate in AFF(Asean) U-19 competitions. I don't see why we can't use this team for the AFC competitions as well. As for reinforcements I know kids here in the US who can join this teams and make them competitive, if they find the funding to bring these kids over there. ; ;Dexactly, take it easy, all of this takes time, as vmjonk said There is not enough time to form the team and with enough fixtures to deal with..... ;D |
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Post by curtlanceunited on Mar 9, 2011 13:26:50 GMT 8
I think it was the previous adminstration of the PFF that failed to commit into participating in the different AFC youth competitions. When the new Admin took over, it was already the deadline for the submission.. I'm that sure though...
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Post by cjeagle on Mar 9, 2011 14:51:12 GMT 8
Here is an educated response to the same concerns I mentioned in filipinofootball:
Azkal in Jakarta said...
Yes it is important to have youth develomental teams from U12,14,16, and U19 I have been there and knows how the organization works its all about funding, the PFF might be getting loads of cash right now but for different concerns like the Senior men's team "AZKALS" , Stadium & training facility construction, Semi-professional league organization but none so far for youth development. I have been part of PH Football for youth development as a coach/trainer it boils down to funding & logistics its never easy to get a group of players from different parts of the country and train them for a minimum of 6 - 8 weeks for a regional international tournament, please take note that this players are students too U-16 players are still in HS and U - 19 are in the University taking them from school for 6 - 8 weeks will not be easy. As a solution to this problem in the past the PFF usually assigns a school who has a capable team BUT the players should be capable of paying for the expenses of the trip airfare and training fee. The training fee includes the head coach honorarium which is more USD1000+ not including transpo and pocket money for a AFC license "C" coach as far as I know this is the minimum rate, usually the team needs a minimum of 2 (head coach/assistant or trainer). Schools with players who can afford to make the trip and have a supportive school administration in terms of academics will be able tapped and make the trip happen. Its a sad fact but we have to accept that we don't really have much funding, its not that federation does not know that this is the key they don't have the means to do it - FOR NOW.
March 9, 2011 4:39 AM
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Post by cjeagle on Mar 9, 2011 14:52:13 GMT 8
Here is my reply:
cjeagle said...
Maybe they should look into how other countries do it. Players all over the world incl. those poorer than us have the same issue of funding and schedule difficulties with school and yet are able to participate. Maybe we cannot afford a residency program like the more developed countries have done at the U-17 level where players are all enrolled in the same school and provide dorms where they can stay while training the whole year round. That is why it is important to have a practice facility of our own with accommodations included like the J village in Japan. But most other countries incl. those poorer than us have found solutions. We just need to prioritize youth development. Ask Coach Weiss how Rwanda another third world country,was able to do it.
March 9, 2011 7:43 AM
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Post by badleftfoot on Mar 9, 2011 21:04:52 GMT 8
cjeagle ... i have 2 girls (u14-u13) who can, most probably, be qualified in joining the philippines U16 team. They both currently plays in the U15 classic divisions soccer league here in US. I also know another half-filipina U15 who plays very good. I am speaking from a point of view of a coach/trainer (not father). i've been thinkinig of bringing them over, but listening to the politics and all at that level, make me think twice!
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