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Post by atlienace on Aug 25, 2011 0:46:41 GMT 8
If you can put together the best starting IX for the Azkals, who would you put in it? Disregarding current "elegibility." Let's say every player based and born outside the Philippines with some Filipino ancestry chose to play for the Philippines (ie. the DeGuzman brothers decided to play for the Philippines instead). Also, let's limit to players that are alive and still playing. Let's not start putting Paulino Alcantara in there.
Just for fun. What do you guys have? (If there's a thread like this already, then my mistake and disregard but I didn't find one)
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Post by Wiking on Aug 25, 2011 3:19:00 GMT 8
you mean starting XI?
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Post by atlienace on Aug 25, 2011 4:52:30 GMT 8
No, I just want the starting 9. hahaha. Obviously a typo. My fault - starting XI aka 11!
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Post by takernz on Aug 25, 2011 8:29:45 GMT 8
If you can put together the best starting IX for the Azkals, who would you put in it? Disregarding current "elegibility." Let's say every player based and born outside the Philippines with some Filipino ancestry chose to play for the Philippines (ie. the DeGuzman brothers decided to play for the Philippines instead). Also, let's limit to players that are alive and still playing. Let's not start putting Paulino Alcantara in there. really bro.? where did you get that info?
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Post by atlienace on Aug 25, 2011 11:13:42 GMT 8
If you can put together the best starting IX for the Azkals, who would you put in it? Disregarding current "elegibility." Let's say every player based and born outside the Philippines with some Filipino ancestry chose to play for the Philippines (ie. the DeGuzman brothers decided to play for the Philippines instead). Also, let's limit to players that are alive and still playing. Let's not start putting Paulino Alcantara in there. really bro.? where did you get that info? ummm they are not playing for the Philippines. I'm saying what if they did. Would you put them in the azkals "dream team"? I was just using them as an example. The same goes for any old prospect that did not decide to play for the Philippines. I'm just expanding the talent pool for this "dream team." So who would you put in it?
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Post by jpmanahan on Aug 26, 2011 3:58:52 GMT 8
The premise of the thread-starter obviously is if you can build a team with Filipino ancestry, who would it comprise:
I would presume one of the brothers De Guzman will be in it. So will Alaba. Tough choice between Areola and Etheridge on goal.
(I know the thread-starter is disregarding which country player decided to cast his lot with)
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Post by atlienace on Aug 26, 2011 5:07:46 GMT 8
You got it, jp.
I was thinking both de Guzman bros.
Jonathan de Guzman - Phil YHB
Alaba - Julian de Guzman - Mulders - James YHB
Cagara - Borro - Lucena - Schrock
Etheridge
That would be ideal if chemistry is right lol
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Post by stellarboy on Aug 30, 2011 23:39:03 GMT 8
Is a SEAG medal a realistic target?A shrug, a twitch and a grimace. That’s how coach Michael Weiss answered when I asked him whether a “SEA Games medal was a realistic target” while we were downing a few beers the other night. We got to talking about how media hype may have led some fans, the clueless showbiz media and even a few of the sports media, to expect the world of the Azkals. How some tend to have unrealistic expectations. “This (success) just doesn’t happen in six months,” he said. Then I asked him how the Under 23 team was doing. “It will be a totally new team with Manuel Ott, Jason de Jong, Roland Mueller, a fully professional keeper…There are also many, many homegrown talents who want…” he said. “So, is a SEAG medal a realistic target?” His face twitched a bit, he grabbed his glass of beer and shrugged. I asked if all the media hype and the success of the senior team will put pressure on the Under 23 squad to deliver what fans expect of them. Earlier, he complained that the media, instead of educating the fans, also tend to add to the hype. “Here, let me show you something,” he said while grabbing my notebook.
When I realized he was writing a series of lineups (EDIT: see photo), I told him that I may not be competent enough to understand it.
“No, you will understand this,” he said. “Now look.”
“I don’t think I’m seeing what you want me to see coach.”
Then he rattled off the names and then I began to see the picture.
“What do you think?”
“I think I like this one,” I said, pointing to his Team 3.
“This,” he said, while pointing to the first one, “Is the team that played in Kuwait. This one, in Rizal and this is my dream team.”
His dream team really is a dream team and I know some fans will be surprised to see a few missing names. The composition of the back four, I think, will also raise a lot of discussions.
“If you noticed, only five of them played in Kuwait. That is what I was waiting for the media to point out.”
I asked if the team is pressured. “There’s no pressure on the players, they will just play.” “But what happens if they can’t win a medal?” Or perhaps I may have asked it as, “but what happens if you can’t win a medal?” “What will happen? You will fire the coach? You will all say ‘FIRE THE COACH?’” It was my turn to stammer, “No coach, that’s not what I’m getting at.” The team started training last Monday, and will have a series of training camps in Bacolod and one outside the country—Japan or the middle east. But a two-month preparation compared to say, host Indonesia, which identified its training pool as early as last January? Is two months enough? I didn’t catch an answer but I think I detected a grimace on coach Weiss’ face. But I could clearly see he looked surprised when I told him that the 1991 team—the one that made it all the way to the semis—was the most successful SEAG men’s football team. A success that this year’s SEAG team—the first one since 05 and the second since 1999--are being tapped to surpass. “So, is a medal a realistic target?” I asked again. “Well, they are talking of a bronze medal.” “So it is a realistic target?” “OK, let me tell you right now. If we win the gold, we will party every night for 30 days here in Cebu,” he said, and he wasn't even smiling. “A bronze, maybe 28 days." So, is a SEA Games medal a realistic target?
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Post by stellarboy on Aug 31, 2011 3:14:49 GMT 8
Seriously, though, I like Coach Weiss' "dream team" structure. Etheridge Ott - Lucena - Borromeo - Cagara J. Younghusband - Schroeck - Mulders - Caligdong Guirado - P. Younghusband
With all respect to Anton, I think Ott will be better as a RB. I certainly didn't think of Ott as a RB before but upon seeing the team 3 lineup, I think it's better and more competitive. Anton will now be our super sub in the defense as he can play the RB and DC spot and Jonsson can sub at the LB or LW.
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Post by atlienace on Aug 31, 2011 5:23:46 GMT 8
Seriously, though, I like Coach Weiss' "dream team" structure. Etheridge Ott - Lucena - Borromeo - Cagara J. Younghusband - Schroeck - Mulders - Caligdong Guirado - P. Younghusband
With all respect to Anton, I think Ott will be better as a RB. I certainly didn't think of Ott as a RB before but upon seeing the team 3 lineup, I think it's better and more competitive. Anton will now be our super sub in the defense as he can play the RB and DC spot and Jonsson can sub at the LB or LW. I saw this earlier today, too. And I had the same thoughts as you. Imagine if all those guys are available at the same time, winning the Long Teng Cup wouldnt be too high of an expectation wouldnt it?
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Post by Wiking on Aug 31, 2011 7:48:18 GMT 8
Well too bad its not going to happen with the LT cup. I also never thought of Ott playing as RB! I would've thought de Jong because at least he's played defensive mid. Must be Mannys speed and/or he is developing his skills quite rapidly. After all he's 19 and is still developing. Plus, he has been subbing in with Ingolstadt II quite regularly. I wish Weiss could've also scribbled down a more realistic lineup for the LT cup, one that takes into account the currently available Azkals.
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Post by stellarboy on Aug 31, 2011 8:08:28 GMT 8
Well too bad its not going to happen with the LT cup. I also never thought of Ott playing as RB! I would've thought de Jong because at least he's played defensive mid. Must be Mannys speed and/or he is developing his skills quite rapidly. After all he's 19 and is still developing. Plus, he has been subbing in with Ingolstadt II quite regularly. I wish Weiss could've also scribbled down a more realistic lineup for the LT cup, one that takes into account the currently available Azkals. Well maybe, Coach Weiss is planning this lineup for maybe (probably) the incoming friendlies or ( possibly) the AFC Challenge Cup finals. With Ott's speed, Lucena's strength, Borromeo's wide array of skill and Cagara's quick wits, the defense will definitely improve.
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Post by vimjonk on Aug 31, 2011 11:25:04 GMT 8
I have read from Pinoy Exchange: "that line-up is Weiss Pep envy". That is a copy of the last Barcelona-Villareal match. 1 defender and 6 midfielders.
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Post by stellarboy on Aug 31, 2011 11:33:56 GMT 8
With this "dream team," I am also thinking of a sort-of "second XI," all who are substitutes or alternatives to Weiss' line-up, including the skipper. This would include those who are not yet capped to the team, but are prospects. For now, I'm thinking... Mueller Sabio - Gier - Del Rosario - Jonsson De Jong - Lexton Moy - Burkey - S. Greatwich C. Greatwich - Araneta
It's still crazy thinking, but that's what my crazy footie brain is formulating.
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Post by atlienace on Aug 31, 2011 11:43:30 GMT 8
With this "dream team," I am also thinking of a sort-of "second XI," all who are substitutes or alternatives to Weiss' line-up, including the skipper. This would include those who are not yet capped to the team, but are prospects. For now, I'm thinking... Mueller Sabio - Gier - Del Rosario - Jonsson De Jong - Lexton Moy - Burkey - S. Greatwich C. Greatwich - Araneta
It's still crazy thinking, but that's what my crazy footie brain is formulating. That's cool. For me, I would like to see Misagh in place of C. Greatwich.
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