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Post by Caz on Oct 3, 2011 16:18:17 GMT 8
Great review, Wiking! It's great that you got a second look at the game.  Thanks! |
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Post by vimjonk on Oct 3, 2011 17:20:50 GMT 8
... Ian Araneta: I've seen the earlier post about Ian so I deliberately concentrated on his play the second time around. Its eye opening what I saw. The Azkals tried to get him the ball early but no pass reached him! These passes are all to Ian: 14min pass from Phil, 16min pass from Phil, 17min bad pass from Angel, 32min pass from Phil on a breakaway, all of them either too far or misdirected by the opponent. I don't think its Ian's fault on those occasions. He also played better and deeper defense than Phil who rarely crosses the midfield line. At 19min he was to be found on top of Muellers box shoulder to shoulder defending. I think we are all expecting too much from Ian and this is why most of us has an issue with him in this game. He isn't creative with the ball compared to Phil and Chieffy. The best time to get Ian the ball is when he doesn't have to dribble far but all he has to do is shoot it or a high ball for a header. Also, if I could describe him as a basketball player, he is someone who will score 20 in one game and 5, 8 and 7 the next three games. You'll just never know when he will score. In summary, the team was not up to the task of getting him the ball where he is most effective. Do you remember when he received a 'good' pass for a shot at goal in this game? Yup, there was a sequence of play in the first half where he was unmarked and could have position himself for a simple tap-in if he had not stumbled all by himself ;D that is why anticipation and positioning are very important traits for a good forward. They are somewhat interrelated. As a forward, you need to anticipate the probable course of action by the ball carrier and the player/s defending him and you position yourself accordingly based on your guess/familiarity with regards to the players playing tendencies. Observe how good forwards in the top Euro leagues position themselves depending on whoever of his teammates is carrying the ball. Why not? Maybe, you are miles ahead of Weiss in terms of tactical savviness. |
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Post by wenden96 on Oct 3, 2011 17:33:20 GMT 8
what happen to the other Under 23 pool are they in the team???If leonora was considered as a good player what about the others? they need exposure also....
anyways good game against HK and Taiwan even though we could probably win to both matches, what can you expect to the team they join together a month before the tournament.....
hail to chieffy your the man...iba talaga may foreign coach na magtrain sa locals iba ang dating....
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Post by heartofahealer on Oct 3, 2011 19:04:25 GMT 8
Just wanna share my thoughts:
The one thing I love about football is that its physical and yet the players have that sense of respect for his opponent. Its a mind game yet you do not need to cheat to win. Watching the game last sunday made me feel bad, not because our Azkals did not win but because of the type of game their opponents were playing. Cleats were flying, tackles were mostly from behind and these chinese-taipei guys doesn't even bother to stop the ball for a player on the ground. Another thing that was killing me while watching was the unending divefest on the pitch. I mean I have never seen a game where the "futbol players" preferred to lie on the ground rather than run after the ball! Plus the acting job was just BAD. If their gameplan is to win by being technical i think their a little bit off target. Because what I saw as an audience was a CHEAP team playing without class.
On the positive note, as I watch the AZKALS each game, I couldnt help but notice the innate Filipino side in each player no matter how foreign they might look. They're considerate to their oopnents, they never start the fight, but they dont backdown if they know they're right and they treat each other respect like real bro despite their differences.
I know theyre gonna learn a lot from this game.
I love football! and I have nothing but Love and Respect for our AZKALS!
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Post by Caz on Oct 3, 2011 20:02:54 GMT 8
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Post by vimjonk on Oct 3, 2011 20:33:18 GMT 8
^^^
LOL, I thought Olivares is a Liverpool supporter and knows football ;D
he better stick to basketball analysis
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Post by cjeagle on Oct 3, 2011 23:04:40 GMT 8
vimjonk is right about ian. Positioning is very important in a forward. One of the skills they learn is to put themselves in a position to receive the ball and Ian seems to have forgotten that. Positioning and understanding the geography of a football field is important for every footballer whether you are a forward, midfielder or defender. It is the players and teams who understand this that usually makes other teams look like amateurs.
With Leonora proving his mettle, we now have a better option than Gener at left back. Other teams tend to focus on attacking Gener's side of the field when they are on the offensive and we have been exposed again and again because of it. It seems that Leonora is more aware of his defensive duties than Gener which is good since other teams can no longer take advantage of that weak spot in our defence.
BTW, I noticed that everyone is focused on winning this tournament. That would be nice, but I think we should also consider the secondary objective of this tournament, to get the youngsters ready for the SEA games. Personally, for this third game against lower ranked Macau, I would just insert a mostly U-23 team. Most of our neighbors have already started training for the SEA games and have played friendlies against clubs and even their men's national teams and do well(Indonesia U-23 tied their senior team 1-1). Combined this with the fact that a lot of them are familiar with each other already from their time together during the AFC Olympic qualifying, and you can see the disparity in preparation. That is why I think our chances for medalling in the SEA games is somewhat of a long shot.
But since the team is also focused on improving our standing in the FIFA rankings, they will probably field the best team they can and try to do better than last year's tournament. I hope it will be enough but I think achieving first place is no longer in our hands. We have to depend on HK and Taiwan getting a draw and us outscoring Macau by more than 5 goals to achieve this.
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Post by bnchzt on Oct 3, 2011 23:18:02 GMT 8
i dont know if this is posted already..
from Ronnie N.
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PH teams deserve cheer not jeers
By Ronnie Nathanielsz
Philippine Daily Inquirer
11:44 pm | Sunday, October 2nd, 2011
55share471 416
One of the first things that struck the ABS-CBN television panel in the opening game of the Long Teng Cup in Kaohsiung, Taiwan, were the Filipino fans.
Made up mostly of women who carried a giant Philippine flag, flaglets, posters and placards and screamed themselves hoarse throughout the match—even after we were down by two goals in the first 22 minutes—they never lost hope in the new darlings of Philippine sports, the Azkals.
The fans surprised the panel anchored by TJ Manotoc and included sports fan Chris Soler, football coach Rudy del Rosario, as well as ourselves.
With coach Michael Weiss bringing in some astute changes in our formation, the Nationals came roaring back through two superbly crafted goals by Chieffy Caligdong and a well-taken penalty by Phil Younghusband before they were unluckily held to a 3-all draw by defending champion Hong Kong.
Clearly the Filipino fans enjoyed the game and the smiles on their faces, as some of our players raced to their area to greet and thank them when it was over, told a story.
Filipinos abroad are now developing the habit, very much like our Asian neighbors from South Korea and Japan, to watch the many different sports events as a group and to cheer for our athletes no matter what the odds and whatever the result.
We saw this at the last Fiba Asia Men’s basketball championship, we witnessed it in the Jones Cup, and of course here at home at the various pool events where fans are still attracted by the occasional magic of pool legends Efren “Bata” Reyes and Francisco “Django” Bustamante and World No.1 Dennis Orcollo.
What we cannot fathom is that there are those who continue to vent their negative thoughts on our national teams, totally unmindful of the fact that they represent our country and strive to the best of their ability to bring honor and glory to the fatherland.
What is even more distressing is that those who criticize and seek to downplay the efforts of our athletes in various national teams in international competitions are themselves incapable of doing anything that these gallant athletes are doing, either on the football pitch, the basketball court or in the boxing ring.
Indeed, many Filipinos both at home and abroad have taken to perennial harping on the negative which, regrettably, mirrors a distressing penchant of a small minority.
There should be a conscious effort to distinguish between supporters and apologists no matter who they are and where they come from.
The guiding principle should always be that these are our very own national teams and it is incumbent upon us to support them come hell or high water because it ultimately reflects a sense of oneness that has long been lacking amongst us Filipinos.
There is nothing intrinsically wrong with criticism. Indeed it could very well be welcome and helpful. But it must stem from a genuine desire to build not to undermine or destroy and it should be driven by a commitment to help improve the present situation.
If Filipino women who are forced to leave their families and friends to eke out a living abroad can take time out and spend their hard-earned money to travel to various arenas to cheer and support our national teams, surely those of us who follow the action on television in the comfort of our homes, could do no less.
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Post by kulaspero15 on Oct 4, 2011 0:10:28 GMT 8
Awesome review Wiking, good thing you were able to cool down and write some of your observations Always a good read! Appreciate it.. |
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Post by xyz1000 on Oct 4, 2011 0:52:47 GMT 8
His analysis is usually more accurate that this one. I think he's getting too familiar with the those around and is now afraid to tell it like it is. I think it's the worst one he's ever written. I hope it's not all downhill from here. |
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Post by xyz1000 on Oct 4, 2011 1:54:54 GMT 8
Thanks again, Wiking, for the comprehensive player reviews. I don’t know the players that well this time so I couldn’t focus on individual play; I focused on the team play this time. That’s why it was good to read your review.
I never thought I would be a Weiss apologist (see my previous posts!), but there is no reason to get rid of him for the crucial reason – timing is everything. This is not the time to get rid of Weiss. Do it after the Suzuki Cup, especially if he doesn’t meet expectations in that tournament. Which leads me to how to grade the coach: below expectations, meeting expectations, or exceeding expectations.
Before the tournament this would’ve been my grading system:
Exceeding expectations: Winning tournament strongly
Meeting expectations: 2nd place strongly, maybe winning 1st place due to luck, officiating, etc.
Below expectations: 3rd place and below
As you can see the chances are that he will meet my expectations. We could still lose or not score enough goals against Macau; yes, that’s a possibility. But it really looks like he will meet expectations.
Recall that last year in this tournament, it had to take an Ian goal in injury time towards the end of the game to tie CT. And we still got third place. This time the Azkals are challenging to win it all. The passing is more fluid and the team has improved tremendously. Even if that has to do with the pool of players available, the coach must be given credit.
Bottom line: Coach W is meeting expectations, but just barely. This is not the time to get rid of him.
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Post by jpmanahan on Oct 4, 2011 5:58:21 GMT 8
I think we should put in the core u-23 unit to start of the match against macau. now, if things change, then we can insert the elders one-by-one if needed.
Now that i have had a day to sink in the marky H tweet, i do hope he has learned his lesson. i'd like to see him and misagh on the front.
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Post by jpmanahan on Oct 4, 2011 6:02:28 GMT 8
His analysis is usually more accurate that this one. I think he's getting too familiar with the those around and is now afraid to tell it like it is. I think it's the worst one he's ever written. I hope it's not all downhill from here. he wrote it here in manila, watching it from what our eyes see. what i'd like to hear is what those who were in Taiwan and saw the whole thing and not just what we saw there. (i.e. craig burrows) EDIT: I also would like to point out there that i believe he's wrong on the margin. We only need 5 and not 6 goals, sir. |
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Post by kulaspero15 on Oct 4, 2011 7:24:45 GMT 8
I think we should put in the core u-23 unit to start of the match against macau. now, if things change, then we can insert the elders one-by-one if needed. Now that i have had a day to sink in the marky H tweet, i do hope he has learned his lesson. i'd like to see him and misagh on the front. In my opinion, we still need to field our best players in the 1st half and see how it would turnout. However, Coach Weiss should determine if there's still a possibility of reaching our goals in the early stages of the second half and make the tough decision if we should call it a day and replace the first XI with U23 (I think we are allowed to have 6 subs). There are a lot of components to be considered before making that call which is why he's the one who's getting paid to do that |
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Post by Caz on Oct 4, 2011 8:23:39 GMT 8
I think we should give some of the senior players a rest before the double friendlies ahead. And besides, the U23 team could use the experience. If it appears that they can't handle the pressure, bring in the seniors, now that we know we can sub half the team.
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Thanks!
