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Post by cjeagle on Jan 8, 2013 22:50:46 GMT 8
Due to member interest on a forum for scouting potential coaches, I am opening up this thread to list possible coaches that you would like to fill the position. Please list only those who are currently out of contract and are available to be signed. For example, although I think a coach like Winfred Schaefer would be an ideal candidate for national team coach because of his winning resume, work ethic, experience and playing style which I consider is best suited for the Filipino physique, he is currently under contract with the Thailand national team and therefore should not be listed here at this time.
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Post by cjeagle on Jan 8, 2013 22:57:39 GMT 8
Possible Candidates that have already been listed in the Weiss replacement thread are: Singaporean coach Raddy Avramovic who has said he is leaving the Singaporean national team after this tournament although apparently because of his recent success recent articles indicate he might still reconsider and resign with the Singaporeans possibly even as technical director. He has won the Asean championships 3x and I think will be attracted to an up and coming team like the Azkals with many European trained talents.
Another is Zico, the Brazilian all time great known as the white Pele, who just left the Iraqi national team and has led the Japanese national team to victory in the Asian Cup among other worthwhile achievements. Zico can help introduce the Brazilian style of play to our team and our program, something that the Japanese actually tried to emulate. However, I think Zico will be too expensive for us.
One of my personal favorites is Dutch Coach Foppe de Haan. He is already 69 y/o and retired already once back in 2009 only to jump back into the fray with Ajax Cape Town in South Africa, the Tuvalu national football team and with his old club Heerenveen as youth coach. He has the reputation of being a miracle worker leading unheralded Heerenveen to the Champion's League and winning 2 European U-21 championships with the Netherlands. He might not be amenable to taking a full time coaching position as rumors are he only took the Tuvalu national coaching job for one tournament at the Pan Pacific Games as a favor without getting paid, but hopefully might be enticed to take on the challenge of leading an up and coming team like the Azkals to new heights.
As for German coaches who the DFB might be amenable to, here are a few suggestions listed by our members with their comments included: 1. Eckhard Krautzun who has led the Philppines to the SEA games semifinal in the past and has had numerous successful stints elsewhere. Aside from his advanced age at 71, he also has a history of health problems which forced him to retire from his coaching position in China in 2007. 2. Michael Kruger a very experienced coach with numerous successful stints abroad. I will just list his most prominent achievements. Honours African Cup Winners' Cup winner: 1996 Egypt Cup winner: 1997�98 Sudan Premier League winner: 2008 Sudan Cup winner: 2008, 2010 *Update: Acc. to Wikipedia he has signed with Ethiopia's St George SA in 2012. 3. Hans-Peter Briegel: Is the King of leading underdogs. Spent nine seasons with Kaiserslautern in the Budesliga as a Defensive midfielder, but his heroics led unfancied Hellas Verona to their miraculous Italian Serie A title in 1984-85. He would translate that success for Albania, once the sad sacks of European football, to their greatest heights, knocking off the Rehhagel-led Greeks, 2-1, and hammered Russia 3-1 in WC and Euro Qualifying play, respectively. The downside is that he wanted total control from Albania, and they refused to give it. He has been out of coaching for 5 years, and might jump at the opportunity to resurrect his career. He is the most successful Albanian coach of all time but his record with other teams have been spotty. 4. Olaf Marschall: Played for both East Germany and Germany. Starred for Lokomotive Liepzig as a striker, but his finest hour came in 1998-99, when he led the newly-promoted Kaiserslautern to their first Budesliga title in a generation with 21 goals in 24 matches. He has never managed a side on a major level, but has been a capable assistant wherever he went. If the DFB will pay for anyone, Marschall is the most likely candidate. He has a pedigree beyond Weiss, and an attitude to match. Could be a steal for the PFF. I think he would be affordable, but does not have the successful head coaching resume that most of us would like. He however has proven himself as a capable assistant in the top tier in Europe.
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Post by xyz1000 on Jan 9, 2013 2:08:26 GMT 8
How about Gregg Berhalter?
Played with Energie Cottbus of the Bundesliga starting in 2002 and was captain of the team -- this obviously garners respect. Played for the US in the World Cup 2002 and was on the team for WC 2006. Assistant coach for the LA Galaxy and now is the head coach for Hammarby in Sweden, a 2nd division team where he coached the team to a 4th place finish -- almost a promotion playoff spot.
Mr. Berhalter has contacts in Germany and in the US, so there's the added attraction that the DFB or the US soccer association may help with funds.
I don't know much about his coaching style, but I do remember that he's the type who you immediately sense as a strong leader.
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Post by cjeagle on Jan 9, 2013 3:04:14 GMT 8
Other recommendations from stingray
Fernando Clavijo: His Coaching experience covers Outdoor, Indoor and Futsal. He was the assistant under Bora Milutinovic with Nigeria in 1998, and was Haiti's gaffer between 2003 and 2005. He has 61 caps for the USA outdoors and 8 caps in USA Futsal. He was also an assistant in USA's Project-40 Development Program. There is really no downside to him other than compensation. If Palami could give him a good contract that includes a house and lot and a car, the PFF will be in good hands as Clavijo's counter-attacking strategy and experience could fit any of the PFF's programs. He Currently the Technical Director for FC Dallas in MLS.
Peter Withe: Currently a free agent, his greatest achievement is leading a country called Thailand to winning two tournaments in succession. I think the tourney was called the ASEAN Championships, better known as the AFF Suzuki Cup. He also served as the Gaffer for Indonesia. If anyone knows how things throw down in the ASEAN region, it is Withe. Two wins and a second in AFF competition commands anyone's respect. The only downside is does Withe really want to come back to SE Asia? He is 61, and getting on in years, and the Philippines may not be ready for that last shot at glory. However, if Palami can string the pesos together, who knows?
Thomas Rongen: More experience as a Youth coach, leading the USA U-20 side from 2001-2005 and from 2006-2011, leading the USA to the U-20 World Cup Knock-out Round 3 times. Led American Samoa to the first win in its history in 2011. He would achieve the MLS Double with DC United in 1999. Spent the last year as Academy Director for Toronto FC. The downside with Rongen is that he is incredibly thin skinned. He has been derided as "Thomas Wronin", as he seems to get outcoached by stronger coaches. Very good teaching ability might make him more of a fit for the Little Azkals than the Senior side.
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Post by xyz1000 on Jan 9, 2013 6:45:03 GMT 8
Aris Caslib
He was there before the Azkals were the Azkals. I don't know the exact situation on why he quit as NT coach other than what I read at the time. That he couldn't feel he could impact the team enough for an improvement. Have read mostly good things about him. If there's anyone who should be given another chance, if he's interested, it's him. This is a very different team, so let's see what he can do with this squad. And on top of that, it's a different administration at PFF!
Advantages: he already knows the players, he has been with the program for a long time, he's Pinoy!
Disadvantages: He's Pinoy! Unfortunately at this stage in the game having a foreign coach will give the team better exposure to outsiders and there's always the impression, yes impression, that a foreigner has more to bring. And impressions count when trying to raise funds from foreign football associations.
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Post by cjeagle on Jan 9, 2013 6:52:40 GMT 8
xyz
I think there was an issue back then where Filipino coaches would favor local players especially those from their own province, over those recruited from abroad and the PFF had to intervene so that the best players will play. Some of them resigned because they felt they were being interfered with.
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Post by xyz1000 on Jan 9, 2013 7:21:18 GMT 8
cjeagle I remember the issue from way back but don't remember how involved Coach Caslib was in this and whether the accusations had any merit. Read the first few pages of this cebufa.org/forum/index.php?topic=45.0and can't seem to find anything that indicates Coach Caslib favoring local players. Anyway, I guess that's one disadvantage already, that he becomes a target of favoritism. Although it's difficult for me to see how that can apply now with so many foreign trained players. Reading those old posts reminded me how unprofessional the PFF was in those days. Utter chaos. Inept.
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Post by cebujames on Jan 9, 2013 7:49:18 GMT 8
Yeah! That's true for xyz1000. But for now, I guess choosing Mr. Caslib won't be a good choice. I'm not familiar with Mr. Caslib's credentials in regards to coaching experience or what he learned from other systems or the new generation of coaching, for now, I still want an experienced(NT Coaching) foreign coach for the Azkals. Of course, a coach who has a good system for our players especially on attacking matters.
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Post by orwat on Jan 9, 2013 9:14:27 GMT 8
Europe and South america are so much advanced in the sport that its always good to have someone from there but cost could possibly be an issue....Korea and Japan play very good football built around the Asian physique...They could possibly more effective than the Europeans....Are there k League or J League coaches that we can possibly tap to handle the team?
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Post by gendirk on Jan 9, 2013 19:17:01 GMT 8
Hehehehe! we are so grand with our list...
do you think these coaches would also consider coaching us??? with our level of play?
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Post by orwat on Jan 9, 2013 21:44:47 GMT 8
do you think these coaches would also consider coaching us??? with our level of play?
Yes some of them would... There are SEA teams less skillful than our guys but handled by experienced coaches from Europe and Asia..Laos for example was handled by Alfred Riedl before which has handled some Austrian and Liechtenstein National teams before... J league and K league coaches are indeed realistic options...We have good players individually but we looked bad because of the lack of system and tactical weaknesses of Weiss...If you would also review the list, this does not include the top football managers.. we know we cant afford them but fortunately its easy to look for someone a lot better than Weiss
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Post by marselluswallace on Jan 10, 2013 10:35:51 GMT 8
i'd like to make a case for coach Ernie Nierras of the Malditas and Stallion
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Post by xyz1000 on Jan 10, 2013 10:45:06 GMT 8
Simon McMenemy
If he achieved what Coach Weiss did in the Suzuki Cup with so much less, just think what he might do with the team now. The thought is tantalizing.
Advantages: He already knows the players and he certainly knows the Asean region having stints in the region. Very diplomatic and seems like an excellent motivator. Affordable. He already has all the credentials so there's no more excuse about not being able to be head coach for an international competition.
Disadvantages: He was a risk then, he will be a risk now (but then again, won't any hire be a risk?) for taking the team to the next level.
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Post by veryfatchocobo on Jan 10, 2013 16:14:44 GMT 8
Europe and South america are so much advanced in the sport that its always good to have someone from there but cost could possibly be an issue....Korea and Japan play very good football built around the Asian physique...They could possibly more effective than the Europeans....Are there k League or J League coaches that we can possibly tap to handle the team? Well, we are already seeing the progress of Japan and Korea playing what they think is best for them. The Korean team (which will be their WC team) beat the GB team with better football. GB (not England) had really good youth, players, too, notably Cleverley, Welbeck, and kinda Sturridge. And don't get me started with the Japanese team, especially the Nadeshiko. At this moment in time though, both mens teams lack composure against "bigger" football countries. I don't know if our football has the clout to attract J-League and K-League managers yet... Off topic, but it kinda sucks that Cerezo's Osaka's keeper is miles better than Jung Sung-Ryong IMO (everytime I watch them play, he's usually a one-man show like Casillas)... Only problem I can see with McMenemy is that the NT had the small club mentality against other countries last Suzuki Cup. It changed with Weiss obviously. But then again, we did have the results to give us confidence after the McMenemy's stint, so maybe he wouldn't bring that back if he becomes manager again....
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Post by johnmarki on Jan 12, 2013 23:22:00 GMT 8
Due to member interest on a forum for scouting potential coaches, I am opening up this thread to list possible coaches that you would like to fill the position. Please list only those who are currently out of contract and are available to be signed. For example, although I think a coach like Winfred Schaefer would be an ideal candidate for national team coach because of his winning resume, work ethic, experience and playing style which I consider is best suited for the Filipino physique, he is currently under contract with the Thailand national team and therefore should not be listed here at this time. I have two candidates: My first choice of the next coach of the Philippines would be: Our very own "Elmer Bedia" Playing Experience: Brisbane Olympic United Football Club Coaching experience: -Brisbane Olympic United FC(Australia)(youth for WCQ) -Consultant,Homeless World Cup RP Team -Played 15 years for the Philippines -With long history of playing in the Philippines and Australia. I think he would be a good candidate. -With former team mate and now PFF president Nonong Araneta. He describes Araneta as a good leader, a good father and good for football. Second Candidate: I think we all can agree, Rob Gier(for u-23 or senior) -If he will resign as a player. I think he will be a good coach. From what you see in matches he is a good leader,motivator and a match tactician. -With impressive playing career and also does scouting for the azkals. I think he will be a good coach or a football manager someday.
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