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Post by opn on Jun 3, 2015 22:23:00 GMT 8
I feel for our U23. They're playing with so much heart out there.
Ang galing ni Clarino.
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Post by tipo on Jun 3, 2015 22:28:09 GMT 8
i shudder to think that we still have to face Myanmar & Indonesia who are IMO the favorites to top our group. there is still Singapore, the host nation, but those 2 played better yesterday. They're just more in all aspect of the game.
puso at determination para sa ating U23 hanggang sa huli!
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Post by strikerbon on Jun 3, 2015 22:31:15 GMT 8
if it's not for our forgettable 1st half, it would've been a different outcome. we fought really hard in the 2nd half and there were instance that we would've equalized. but that's it. let's move on and learn from it
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Post by iniestafan on Jun 3, 2015 22:36:08 GMT 8
Anyway regardless of the results here in SEA games, all i want to see nxt are these players under coach Dooley, even just for a friendly.
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Post by cjeagle on Jun 4, 2015 1:14:53 GMT 8
Let's not get too down on our team and try to be realistic. The 2015 team didn't really come with high expectations, since they didn't have any professional reinforcements from abroad, unlike the team from 2011. Considering our team is mostly amateur, playing against teams filled entirely with pros, I would say they are doing quite well.
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Post by materkush on Jun 4, 2015 4:00:35 GMT 8
passing and a real striker is our main problem .may ugali ren silang parang senior team dati na hinde masyado tumatakbo,but hats of sa goal keeper kng hinde dahil sa kanya malamang un score nasa 6 santos great kid malayo mararating nang batang to 2 games sya un napapansin k lagi.we have a bright future guys 2 more SEA games i can see our Jr Azkal will produce more talents and win. medyo nasobhan ata pag oo ni bob G kahapon hehehe
sana may magorganize nang chant print the chant sa back nang ticket or hand a paper sayang un mnga nandon un mnga lalake napapatalon d alam isisigaw un mnga babae tumitili LOL.(trade mark nang pinas tili nang mnga babae )
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Post by Caz on Jun 4, 2015 8:35:47 GMT 8
Let's not get too down on our team and try to be realistic. The 2015 team didn't really come with high expectations, since they didn't have any professional reinforcements from abroad, unlike the team from 2011. Considering our team is mostly amateur, playing against teams filled entirely with pros, I would say they are doing quite well. I agree, and from what I've seen these players are very promising. They just need proper guidance. The talent is there. Once they make it to the UFL (or perhaps abroad?) and play regular football we should see them do much better, perhaps even with the Azkals.
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Post by santongbusabos on Jun 4, 2015 13:21:04 GMT 8
some of them are playing with UFL clubs. this shows what a local league can do with our young talents. tumataas ang level of play. kunti hasa pa 'yan. i'm waiting for some of the youth players coming from these clubs and those from the province.
by the way, wala tayong overage players na pinadala di ba? these kids average age is 21. may chance pa para sa susunod na SEA games para mag-evolve at mag-mature ang laro nila.
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Post by butchok on Jun 5, 2015 0:54:12 GMT 8
SEA Games in under23 tourney anyway so overage players are not allowed.
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Post by cjeagle on Jun 5, 2015 1:22:30 GMT 8
SEA Games in under23 tourney anyway so overage players are not allowed. Actually some of the SEA teams have been known to falsify the documents(especially their ages) of their players in the past, including Cambodia, I believe. That is why, just like in African countries, they are much more competitive at the age group levels than with the men's team.
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Post by santongbusabos on Jun 5, 2015 2:11:18 GMT 8
i thought they are allowed to bring two overaged players as reinforcements.
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Post by teddyandtimmysdad on Jun 5, 2015 8:31:21 GMT 8
I am very concerned. The game is built around basic skills. First touch, passing, dribbling at speed with close contact of the ball, and shooting among others. By the time kids reach 13-14 these should already be finely tuned skills so that coaches can then take the solid basics and Advance the player with other aspects of the game - tactics, vision on the field, team play. I continue to watch development of the game, including player selections for the national team at the younger age, and I am amazed at some of the selections based upon speed and aggression - with too little consideration for the core skills. Surely these two elements - speed and aggression - are important, but by age 21 if the core skills are not there it is way past "too late". As I watched the singapore game twice and the replay of the Cambodia match, I have to regretfully say that imho our boys are far away from their competitors in the basic skills mentioned above. Sadly at the national team youth level I see the same trend emerging - that is focus upon speed and aggression without enough focus on core skills. Moving forward there has to be much more focus at a junior level on standardized skills assessment to ensure we get complete players, not just the biggest or fastest players. I fear that using our current approach at early ages guys like messi would never be identified.
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Post by paulino19 on Jun 6, 2015 13:52:40 GMT 8
I am very concerned. The game is built around basic skills. First touch, passing, dribbling at speed with close contact of the ball, and shooting among others. By the time kids reach 13-14 these should already be finely tuned skills so that coaches can then take the solid basics and Advance the player with other aspects of the game - tactics, vision on the field, team play. I continue to watch development of the game, including player selections for the national team at the younger age, and I am amazed at some of the selections based upon speed and aggression - with too little consideration for the core skills. Surely these two elements - speed and aggression - are important, but by age 21 if the core skills are not there it is way past "too late". As I watched the singapore game twice and the replay of the Cambodia match, I have to regretfully say that imho our boys are far away from their competitors in the basic skills mentioned above. Sadly at the national team youth level I see the same trend emerging - that is focus upon speed and aggression without enough focus on core skills. Moving forward there has to be much more focus at a junior level on standardized skills assessment to ensure we get complete players, not just the biggest or fastest players. I fear that using our current approach at early ages guys like messi would never be identified. It's simple ... we just don't know football. Period. We don't seem to understand with our lack of height and physical strength that "technical football" should be our focus. We just don't get it ... We should be looking to our Latin American cousins as inspiration and re-establish our relationships with them to help us with improving our football. Just like us, they are not physically imposing, but emphasize the technical aspect of the game ... and look how successful they are. World leaders in football. Instead of recruiting and developing coaches who possess this mentality of teaching skill-based football, we grab guys from Europe with their respective country's mentality of speed and aggression, and assume they will help us greatly just because they're from Europe ... not knowing their style of play and mentality does not suit us. We're totally clueless about the game. Japan's success is a wonderful example that we should follow. They took advantage of their Latin American connection with Brazil (outside of Japan, the largest community of Japanese live in Brazil), and brought over coaches and players knowing that the Brazilian style of play would suit them because of their lack of height and physical prowess. The J-League brings over Latin Americans regularly as players, coaches and advisors. Latin American clubs play friendlies regularly in Japan. The Japanese have done everything the right way, and the results of their endeavors prove it. Look at Mexico. They are practically identical to us physically and look how successful they are internationally with their emphasis on technical football. Olympic champions 2012 against a full strength Brazil in the gold medal match and regular World Cup participants. Us? We're just clueless. We don't get it. No football intelligence at all.
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Post by cjeagle on Jun 6, 2015 15:08:20 GMT 8
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Post by teddyandtimmysdad on Jun 7, 2015 5:24:05 GMT 8
Paulinho - I agree w your comments 150pct. If you had a chance to watch tonight's champions league final you perhaps saw yet another example of a game dominated by technical excellence - many of whom come from those very s American countries you name, places like Brazil, Argentina, etc.
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