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Post by paulino19 on Jun 7, 2015 7:25:48 GMT 8
Paulinho - I agree w your comments 150pct. If you had a chance to watch tonight's champions league final you perhaps saw yet another example of a game dominated by technical excellence - many of whom come from those very s American countries you name, places like Brazil, Argentina, etc. Yes, I watched the Champions League Final ... Barca were outnumbered physically by Juve, yet they controlled the match with their technique ... The majority of Barca's players are small, but look at how they dominated the match? The Latin Americans have it all figured out ... and they are reaping the benefits. We need to re-establish our historical connection with that part of the world in order to reap the rewards of football ... ... I can't say it enough: We Filipinos are just clueless about this sport, and everything you pointed out about Filipino football, teddyandtimmysdad, is 150 percent correct. I can write about this until my face turns purple ... What is it about this that we just don't get? The problem is simple: Stop basing football success on one's physique ... because football is a totally different game. Use a strategy that works for us. The Latin American approach is absolutely perfect for the Filipino. I was talking to a guy from Hong Kong several years ago, and he said many football fans in Hong Kong emulate Latin American footballers because they can relate to them easy because he said, "They are as small as we are, and we can see ourselves in them." This is how Filipinos should approach football ... ... We Filipinos are clueless. Absolutely clueless.
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Post by kuo24 on Jun 7, 2015 21:09:19 GMT 8
Currently watching the Philippines U-23 vs. Myanmar match-up.
GK: Ace Villanueva DEF: Talaroc - Clariño - Aguisanda - Del Rosario MID: Cheng - Bugas - Felongco - Alquiros ATT: Tacagni - Salenga
Myanmar's #20 is routinely beating Talaroc down the flank. Their #5, a defender nutmegged Tacagni. Their boys certainly are skilled.
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Post by kuo24 on Jun 7, 2015 21:22:26 GMT 8
1-1 at halftime.
Felongco, moved to midfield, fired a solo screamer from outside the box. Myanmar then equalized on an own goal. Free kick, deflecting off our wall and then flipping beyond Villanueva's reach.
Myanmar is dictating the game though with far more possession and chances. Feels like they can score at any given juncture. On the other hand, we're struggling to put more than 3 passes together.
Fitch Arboleda subbed in for the inefficient Jerome Cheng.
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Post by pilferpatchy on Jun 7, 2015 22:12:49 GMT 8
That Cheng kid's place in the U23 should've been given to someone from the UFL who really knows how to play well. Just because he's the son of the team manager doesn't mean he should start and waste it. In the Cambodia game, he started and was subbed after just 35 mins on the pitch. And now he started again and played inefficiently.
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Post by pilferpatchy on Jun 7, 2015 22:13:38 GMT 8
4-1 Myanmar
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Post by fadzki on Jun 7, 2015 22:20:17 GMT 8
5-1 Myanmar...
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Post by cjeagle on Jun 8, 2015 1:45:47 GMT 8
Why wasn't Badelic not used in this game? He has proven to be a reliable goalkeeper in the other 2 games as well as in the AFC Cup against other pro players? Did they decide to give up and give playing time to the subs? And I agree about Cheng being given playing time. If you want to give him a nod, just because he is the son of the team manager, it should be only during garbage time, when the results don't matter and not in the starting lineup. This is not a good way to motivate the other members of the team by playing favorites. The Philippine coach Maro lacks any spine(colloquially the proper Tagalog term for him would be 'sipsip masyado'), since even the Aussie coach Fraser didn't give Cheng that much playing time during the U23 AFC qualifiers.
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Post by strikerbon on Jun 8, 2015 2:06:29 GMT 8
things to point out on this loss is we were just poor on transition from defense to offense. we always let the Burmese to reorganize their defense. i know we can handle them it's just that we lack the international exposures. from the 1st half alone, it was 50-50. we could've scored more goals. but the early goal we conceded in the second half took the morale out of our young players
Tacagni is very slow as a striker. he also has a poor first touch. Uzoka had more impact while having only played for about 15 mins compared to Tacagni who played the whole 90 mins of action. Clarino is my MOTM. the young CB made a number of clearance and last-ditch tackles. im excited to see him getting cap on our Senior squad.
i feel our GK Villanueva. that 3rd goal came from a poor clearance led to an easy goal. Badelic should've been the starting GK. anyways, they'll learn from it and will bounce back stronger. heads-up guys!
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Post by butchok on Jun 8, 2015 2:40:05 GMT 8
With the result on this U23 campaign, the POC will again make it harder to support in sending a team in future SEA Games football...
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Post by nicag88 on Jun 8, 2015 2:44:52 GMT 8
I guess we just dont have the football 'culture'
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Post by xclentoy on Jun 8, 2015 9:11:50 GMT 8
I guess we just dont have YETthe football 'culture'
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Post by pilferpatchy on Jun 8, 2015 10:38:31 GMT 8
The Burmese and Cambodian teams were tight as Mighty Bond when it comes to teamwork. They've been together far longer than our U23 had. That CAM U23 is the core of the same CAM senior team the Azkals had beaten 8-0 and 3-0 and most of that MYA U23 players have played in the recent Peace Cup (and grabbed it). The current FIFA U20 World Cup in New Zealand includes a Myanmar team who narrowly lost to a US team and scored against the host team. Five or seven years from now, we may see the same ones lifting the AFF Championship trophy. All I am saying is, if we need to instill the so-called football culture to the younger ones, it is not too late. I would rather have a very strong grassroots program and an average senior team than an almost non-existing grassroots and an AFF Cup semifinals team.
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Post by cjeagle on Jun 8, 2015 11:32:56 GMT 8
The Burmese and Cambodian teams were tight as Mighty Bond when it comes to teamwork. They've been together far longer than our U23 had. That CAM U23 is the core of the same CAM senior team the Azkals had beaten 8-0 and 3-0 and most of that MYA U23 players have played in the recent Peace Cup (and grabbed it). The current FIFA U20 World Cup in New Zealand includes a Myanmar team who narrowly lost to a US team and scored against the host team. Five or seven years from now, we may see the same ones lifting the AFF Championship trophy. All I am saying is, if we need to instill the so-called football culture to the younger ones, it is not too late. I would rather have a very strong grassroots program and an average senior team than an almost non-existing grassroots and an AFF Cup semifinals team. I agree a strong grassroots program is a must, but don't be so naive to think that people will just hand you the means to start one. Where are you going to get the funding for your strong grassroots program if no one cares about football? Nobody is going to give you money if you lose 10-0 all the time. No one is going to write about you and no one is going to sponsor you or broadcast your game. That is the lesson you should have learned all this years. Indeed we lack a football culture. To instill that football culture, you need to get kids and their parents interested in the sport and for a long time no one(outside certain regions and schools) wanted to play this sport. We need an attractive product to get the general public interested and heroes for them to look up to. It is then up to our football leaders to harness that interest and set up a grassroots developmental program(starting with the younger age groups) that can be sustained. We need both to succeed long term.
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Post by zannbu on Jun 8, 2015 13:01:25 GMT 8
That was painful to watch. While the players need to improve on many areas, I felt they could have done better under a different coach.
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Post by teddyandtimmysdad on Jun 9, 2015 0:21:57 GMT 8
Philippines : Per capita gdp usd7000
Cambodia: Per capita gdp usd3300 Burma: per capita gdp usd4800
(Source : CIA world fact book)
I could go on, there are many economic statistics that could show these two countries are much poorer than we are. So what's the point?
The point is this. They don't have the money to outspend us in developing a program OR Footballing talent Although I have never been to Burma and to Cambodia only once, I certainly don't see any evidence of a footballing culture in either of these two countries. So why does the Philippines continue to struggle, even against other countries that seem to have remarkably less resources then us?
The only answer I keep coming to is how we are approaching the development of talent here in the Philippines . We can go on and on in our own little microcosm about the great talents in the south, but I think this latest dose of medicine should have people really thinking deeply about fundamental change impossible to achieve with the same old boy thinking...
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