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Post by cjeagle on Jan 9, 2011 10:19:43 GMT 8
I was being sarcastic. We like giving our football teams nasty names yet play like pussycats. I am just pointing out the irony.
BTW I agree Winning the Fair Play Awards is a GOOD award. I just like winning the actual championship better.
Sorry but I am a big hockey and NHL fan. In the NHL there is a trophy called the Lady Byng Award or Most Gentlemanly Award given to the player with the least amount of penalties for the year. It is an award no hockey player wants to win.
Football is different of course. Some tackles tend to be too excessive and cause injuries. On the other hand, proper use of proper tackling techniques and body positioning(incl. grabbing and holding when allowed), learned through experience and practice will help you win games.
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Post by samhain13 on Jan 9, 2011 21:35:01 GMT 8
I was being sarcastic. We like giving our football teams nasty names yet play like pussycats. I am just pointing out the irony. I don't see the irony because I don't know what you mean by "play like pussycats". So now, we should start a Hockey vs Football debate? Your point being that the Azkals or the Malditas have nasty nicknames but they don't tackle hard enough to cause an acceptable amount of pain on their opponents, and that is somehow wrong? Sorry, I don't get it. ------------- OT: ceburoo is Graeme? Hehe, it's Arielle. We have been exchanging comments on pinoyfootball. OnT: I will stick with the suggestion that I posted on the pinoyfootball group: let's call the seniors team Azkals, and the age group teams U-x Azkals where x is the age limit-- like the U-23 Azkals, U-19 Azkals, etc. Although I LOL'd when I saw a comment in filipinofootball.blogspot.com that suggested the U-23 team be called, TUTAZ. Funny, that.
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Post by kaligo on Jan 10, 2011 0:56:24 GMT 8
Just because they are named after dogs doesn't mean they have to act like dogs. But I do get your point though and a championship is a way lot better than the Fair Play award.
But you can also play tough without playing rough and the games against Indonesia showed that. And I liked that better than that "defeated look" the team used to have in late 90s and early 2000s..
On topic: I still like Razkals... Any other names out there?
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Post by locotes on Jan 10, 2011 4:38:46 GMT 8
I was being sarcastic. We like giving our football teams nasty names yet play like pussycats. I am just pointing out the irony. I don't see the irony because I don't know what you mean by "play like pussycats". So now, we should start a Hockey vs Football debate? Your point being that the Azkals or the Malditas have nasty nicknames but they don't tackle hard enough to cause an acceptable amount of pain on their opponents, and that is somehow wrong? Sorry, I don't get it. ------------- OT: ceburoo is Graeme? Hehe, it's Arielle. We have been exchanging comments on pinoyfootball. OnT: I will stick with the suggestion that I posted on the pinoyfootball group: let's call the seniors team Azkals, and the age group teams U-x Azkals where x is the age limit-- like the U-23 Azkals, U-19 Azkals, etc.Although I LOL'd when I saw a comment in filipinofootball.blogspot.com that suggested the U-23 team be called, TUTAZ. Funny, that. [color=Green This is more like it, it will be very confusing to name every age limit separate names. Justname them U23 azkals, U19 Azkals etc..[/color][/b]]
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Post by jonny on Jan 10, 2011 6:53:06 GMT 8
Young Azkals for U23 team ?
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Post by cjeagle on Jan 10, 2011 10:08:13 GMT 8
If you guys watch the EPL more often, you will understand what I mean. Asians in general have this rep in the rest of the world of not being able to handle physical play so other teams do this to take them out of their game. I admire the never say die attitude of the Azkals lately though. You can't win em all but working hard and defending well earns you respect. As for this naming thing, New Zealanders are notorious for giving nicknames to all their teams whether it is all whites, all blacks, tall whites, etc. Other countries are not as obsessive. We don't have to follow their example but if you guys want to be creative, feel free to do so. I guess you guys must get a thrill seeing your choice of Azkals being used all over the world. My choice is the one that I coined first Razkals. Samhain if you don't like pussycats, how about teddy bears. Same meaning, different context.
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Post by kaligo on Jan 10, 2011 11:00:15 GMT 8
Yep, I like Razkals.
As to the naming thing, I think the football teams, "Azkals," "Malditas" are the second in Philippine sports to have adopted nicknames. The first is, and it's also widely used, the Blu Boys of Philippine baseball/sofball...
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Post by samhain13 on Jan 10, 2011 11:57:31 GMT 8
My choice is the one that I coined first Razkals. Samhain if you don't like pussycats, how about teddy bears. Same meaning, different context. If you really like Razkals, then why are you suggesting Pussycats and Teddy Bears? Could this be a Freudian Slip on your part or would this be your version of flamebait? ;D
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Post by cjeagle on Jan 11, 2011 5:59:53 GMT 8
No matter how much reverse psychology you employ, I am not going to rise to the bait samhain. But to use a local term 'gulang' seems appropriate to describe what is sometimes necessary to win games.
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Post by kaligo on Jan 11, 2011 9:48:20 GMT 8
I just saw in a national paper the other day, the Philippines youth baseball team referred to as Razkals...
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Post by locotes on Jan 11, 2011 11:43:08 GMT 8
I just saw in a national paper the other day, the Philippines youth baseball team referred to as Razkals... I dont like that, its to close to AZKALS, they should look for another name, no disrespect to Baseball. They were called the blue boys before right? why not use that.
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Post by samhain13 on Jan 11, 2011 16:05:59 GMT 8
No matter how much reverse psychology you employ, I am not going to rise to the bait samhain. But to use a local term 'gulang' seems appropriate to describe what is sometimes necessary to win games. Who's baiting whom? You were the one who brought the "playing like pussycats" idea into the discussion, saying it's ironic that we give our teams nasty names while, in your opinion, they don't play nasty at all. I merely said I didn't know what "playing like pussycats" mean so I didn't get the irony that you were talking about. Then, instead of explaining what you meant, you go on to imply that I don't like cats and offer me teddy bears instead-- which, doesn't really contribute to the conversation that by the way, you initiated. Well, if it's really that important to you, then let me say that I love cats but I don't like teddy bears because I never really cared much about stuffed animals. Really though, if you like teddy bears that much (as it seems to be the second thing that's come out of your head, after cats) there shouldn't be a problem. Seriously. If you think you're entitled to an opinion but shouldn't have to say more if the opinion comes off as unclear or a bit off, just say so. Anyway, if by "gulang" you mean "proper tackling techniques and body positioning(incl. grabbing and holding when allowed)", it's not really gulang-- it can't be gulang if it's allowed or if it's proper. Gulang is when you do something that isn't allowed or isn't proper but you do it in a manner that the referee doesn't notice it and therefore, cannot call it. I personally do not want this from the Azkals nor from the Malditas. But as with everyone, I believe both teams can improve their "proper tackling techniques and body positioning"; however, doing so doesn't make them nasty or "magulang" in any way.
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Post by cjeagle on Jan 11, 2011 23:52:00 GMT 8
Don't be so sensitive samhain. It's all in fun. Referees call plays differently every game. It is up to the player to read this and use this 'gulang' techniques appropriately. You see it all the time at the highest level even at the World Cup. That is why FIFA is thinking of only hiring professional referees from now on at the World Cup. Too many controversies have erupted in the past from diff. interpretations of the law. e.g. For example USA had a goal disallowed against Slovenia in the past World Cup inspite of the fact that Slovenia was body hugging all the players near the goal which everyone agreed was illegal. Things like that happen all the time.
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Post by kaligo on Jan 12, 2011 1:27:28 GMT 8
How about this irony, getting confused in a thread that's supposed to stop the confusion? :-)
Off topic: I read that the 10,000 general admission seats for the Feb. 9 game will be free....
On topic: Yep, I was surprised to read of the baseball team being referred to as the Razkals, isntead of something related to the Blu Boys... But I guess they don't like the sound of "Little Blu Boys..." :-)
I guess the name that will stick is one that gets used first in mass media...
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Post by samhain13 on Jan 12, 2011 3:07:26 GMT 8
Don't be so sensitive samhain. It's all in fun. Referees call plays differently every game. It is up to the player to read this and use this 'gulang' techniques appropriately. You see it all the time at the highest level even at the World Cup. That is why FIFA is thinking of only hiring professional referees from now on at the World Cup. Too many controversies have erupted in the past from diff. interpretations of the law. e.g. For example USA had a goal disallowed against Slovenia in the past World Cup inspite of the fact that Slovenia was body hugging all the players near the goal which everyone agreed was illegal. Things like that happen all the time. So you were flamebaiting-- all in good fun, of course. Still doesn't make sense of the whole nasty, gulang business though. Sure, referees make bad calls all the time but that's not something that players can practice (unlike "gulang"). Care to try again? ;D
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