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Post by xyz1000 on Feb 6, 2011 15:39:24 GMT 8
Let's get real, De Guzman will never play for the RP.
Moving right along.... A good article that finally discusses what's on Coach W's mind. First of all, the attitude is what German money that came with him can do. He's not being paid by the PFF directly but rather came with an extremely generous package from the Germans, so he can afford to assert strong opinions and demand action and policy without fear from PFF. THAT'S GREAT!
As for who Coach W is referring to, let me guess that they are from the new batch of Foreigners since the older ones have already shown that they do want to represent the country even if it means a loss of income. Lucena and Schrock have their contract with a team so I'm guessing it's not them. The rest, including Cagara, are without a team or are in the lower levels of play so I'm guessing that playing and travel would be a financial burden for them. Unless, of course, Cagara was able to stash away some before going clubless.
Compensation for the Azkals is an issue that I hope PFF is addressing and doing the right thing about. After all, they are the main reason that gets everybody excited.
Leaving aside the topic of compensation, it's good to learn something about Coach W's strategic plans. An attacking team with a lot of speed. That's a far cry and a lot more ambitious than Coach Mc's counterattacks. If the Azkals are going to progress beyond long balls and counterattacks, then they really had better have improved first touches. Testing this out on Mongolia is as good an opponent as one could possibly hope for. And while I'm glad he's going for a game plan that requires better footballing skills, it means that the players must have better fotballing skills that the previous squad. And that begs the question -- who will be the new starting XI?
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Post by cjeagle on Feb 8, 2011 0:02:01 GMT 8
Final List of players according to Manila Bulletin: www.mb.com.ph/articles/303055/azkals-aim-a-shot-darkAly Borromeo, Eduard Sacapano, Neil Etheridge, Anton del Rosario, Jerry Barbaso, Kim Relucio, Joebel Bermejo, Rob Gier, Ray Jonnson, Nestorio Margarse, Emilio Caligdong, Simon Greatwich, Peter Jaugan, Mark Ferrer, James and Phil Younghusband, Reymark Palmes, Jason de Jong, Patrick Hinrichsen, Jason Sabio, and Ian Araneta comprise the team’s 23-man line up. There is only 21 players in this article when 23 players are eligible so we don't yet know who the other 2 players are or even if they will be filled. An initial 30 or 31 man list was submitted back in January even before the tryouts, to the AFC from which these players would have been chosen. It is possible that certain players like William Guerridon who made the team after the tryouts, were not on that list and therefore cannot be chosen for the Feb. 9 game but can be an option down the road. Passport issues could also be problem. Update: Acc. to cedelf tupas twitter from inquirer the other players are Gener and Barsales. Since the Suzuki Cup, 3 new players were added: Sabio, Hinricksen, and Simon Greatwich. Players replaced are Chris Greatwich who cannot make it bec. of work related issues, David Basa who committed to playing for UST in his final year of eligibility and Mark Drinkuth who was part of Suzuki cup qualifying.
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Post by xyz1000 on Feb 8, 2011 8:42:56 GMT 8
This is essentially the same team that was in the Suzuki Cup. Fast attacking, they were not. If Coach W is going to change the style from defense and counterattack to fast and attacking, then I'm just glad this is being done with Mongolia. If this was done in the Suzuki Cup I'm sure the Azkals would've been punished badly.
Visa processing time aside, I suspect one reason this is essentially the same team as before is that it's still important at this stage to maintain the cohesion, mindset, motivation of the team. Any major disruption would undermine the team psyche high coming off the Suzuki Cup. There's also the fact that it's a home game -- much as I hate the political implications of having them "deserve" to play in front of the home crowd, perhaps they do.
But in the second leg, gotta field the best players and no one will be deserving of a position based on past play. My guess is that in the second leg we will see more of the Fil-foreigners and that it will be a stronger team. One that would carry out, I hope, Coach W's vision of fast and attacking.
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Post by lurker on Feb 8, 2011 9:58:19 GMT 8
From a political standpoint, the Mongolian weather would make it easier to justify a line-up composed of foreign based players. If they do well, they have then earned their places.
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Post by markdelvalle on Feb 8, 2011 15:27:31 GMT 8
First off, we do not have that much foreign accustomed players on the lineup (Even if the other 3 players who are filing their papers are called, we just have enough to run a starting 11 lineup. I dont think that would be fair to our local based lads). second, considering that this week is a bye week for international football players, it doesnt mean that the next game will be the same. It may be an international off week, but considering the date, it may be pulling the gaffer's yoke waaay harder than we may hope. Neil Etheridge may suit up on 03/19, depending on Schwarzer and Stockdale's condition. If they are fit, Neil wouldnt have to worry about anything, if one of them isn't, and if competing for a no.2 slot is an issue, hopefully, Mark is in a good mood and will let him play and have Pascal sit in.
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Post by cjeagle on Feb 8, 2011 23:27:42 GMT 8
The Philippines have an alternative German based goalkeeper who has expressed interest in playing for the Philippines Ronald Muller from MSV Duisburg who can fill in if Neil can't make it. He has applied for a passport to make himself available for call up. He hasn't been called up so far because of Neil and to give the local based players more time in practice. Hopefully we see him on the bench by the time World Cup qualifying starts.
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Post by Caz on Feb 9, 2011 2:36:42 GMT 8
Caz, that is the article I have highlighted above. So it is. My mistake. Well, I'm packing for my trip to Bacolod in the morning. Go Azkals!
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Post by cjeagle on Feb 10, 2011 2:16:37 GMT 8
This is what I meant when I said that De Guzman might get upset at all the racial taunts in Europe: sports.yahoo.com/soccer/news;_ylt=Ai3G5t72PLGoDo9dsJlZGEgmw7YF?slug=ap-danielalves-racismMaybe it reaches a point where he decides to play for us as I have seen other players do. It is not always money sometimes. But nevertheless, the chances are still very slim. As for the 2-0 game today, is it just me or even though we controlled most of the possession in the game, I felt that we played a more organized game in the Suzuki cup under McMenemy. There were a lot of errant passes and mistakes which would have been punished by the better SEA teams we played against. Weiss preaches offensive football, but this can only be played effectively against good opposition if we have the players with the requisite skills for it. We would have been massacred by Vietnam, Indonesia and Singapore if we played so carelessly against them leaving acres of space at the back for their players to capitalize upon. Fortunately we have more players coming in and to be fair to Coach Weiss who has only been coaching for 3 weeks or so, but I kind of came away disappointed after watching the game. Being a German coach, I expected us to play in a more organized manner like the Germans are famous for and I saw none of that. We will have to just wait and see how things turn out against the better teams. One thing remains the same, the poor finishing of Ian Araneta. He again wasted 5 or 6 chances in the game like he did in the previous 4 games he played. As a forward, you are expected to score goals and all he does is waste chances. We seriously need to find alternatives at that position and hopefully the new players like William Espinosa-Guerridon will pan out. Jason de Jong did not play very well today, unlike in the Suzuki cup. I wonder if his lack of playing time with his team in Europe has something to do with it. He looks rusty and gave up the ball too much which is fatal for a defensive midfielder. Nevertheless Congratulations are in order for winning the game 2-0. It is early under the Coach Weiss era and hopefully we play better in the future. Go Azkals.
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Post by cjeagle on Feb 17, 2011 21:51:46 GMT 8
In other news, Myanmar our first opponent in the AFC Challenge Cup group qualifiers in March has just hired a very good and experienced coach Serbian Milan Zivadinovic who has the best record among the coaches in ASEAN and is considered a legend in Serbia. He is the sort of coach who can train his team to counterattack successfully against possession oriented offensive teams which Coach Weiss seems to favor. We will find out in March how good our coach really is in that first match in the AFC Challenge Cup. It is interesting to read that they also hired Serbian assistant coaches. All of the coaches is paid for by the government as the current military leader is an avid football fan.
YANGON (3 Feb 2011) – The Myanmar Football Federation (MFF) have appointed Milan Zivadinovic of Serbia as the new chief of the Myanmar national team. The former Iraq and Ghana national team cach, Zivadinovic signed a two-year contract with the MFF in a ceremony last week. The deal, which is reported to be worth around USD180,000 per year, will also see the 66-year-old Zivadinovic guiding the Myanmar Oympic team. The Myanmar Under-23 side will be playing in the 2012 Olympic qualifiers against India later this month. At the same ceremony, Jovica Nikolic and Goran Zivadinovic were also appointed as the assistants to Zivadinovic. Former player of Red Star Belgrade, Zivadinovic took charge of the Yugoslavia national team in 1998 where he boosted their FIFA ranking to the highest ever at sixth. He was also voted as the best coach in Yugoslavia 1993 and the best foreign coach in Turkey 1984. While in Yugoslavia, he had a hand in developing players like Mijatovic (Real Madrid), Stankovic (Inter Milan), Mihajlovic (Inter Milan) and Kezman (PSV/Chelsea).
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Post by al luz812 on Feb 17, 2011 22:18:00 GMT 8
Wooooooh....seems like coach Weiss credentials is dwarfed by this Zivadinovic guy!!
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Post by Ms. Sarah Crews on Feb 18, 2011 0:18:24 GMT 8
In other news, Myanmar our first opponent in the AFC Challenge Cup group qualifiers in March has just hired a very good and experienced coach Serbian Milan Zivadinovic who has the best record among the coaches in ASEAN and is considered a legend in Serbia. He is the sort of coach who can train his team to counterattack successfully against possession oriented offensive teams which Coach Weiss seems to favor. We will find out in March how good our coach really is in that first match in the AFC Challenge Cup. It is interesting to read that they also hired Serbian assistant coaches. All of the coaches is paid for by the government as the current military leader is an avid football fan. YANGON (3 Feb 2011) – The Myanmar Football Federation (MFF) have appointed Milan Zivadinovic of Serbia as the new chief of the Myanmar national team. The former Iraq and Ghana national team cach, Zivadinovic signed a two-year contract with the MFF in a ceremony last week. The deal, which is reported to be worth around USD180,000 per year, will also see the 66-year-old Zivadinovic guiding the Myanmar Oympic team. The Myanmar Under-23 side will be playing in the 2012 Olympic qualifiers against India later this month. At the same ceremony, Jovica Nikolic and Goran Zivadinovic were also appointed as the assistants to Zivadinovic. Former player of Red Star Belgrade, Zivadinovic took charge of the Yugoslavia national team in 1998 where he boosted their FIFA ranking to the highest ever at sixth. He was also voted as the best coach in Yugoslavia 1993 and the best foreign coach in Turkey 1984. While in Yugoslavia, he had a hand in developing players like Mijatovic (Real Madrid), Stankovic (Inter Milan), Mihajlovic (Inter Milan) and Kezman (PSV/Chelsea). wow!! how can they afford to pay them??? samantalang pilipinas, masmayaman tayo sa Myanmar more than 3 folds or so eh hindi kayang uma vaile ng Head Coach,. wow parang yung credentials ni weiss eh pang Asst Coach lang sa Myanmar Team.
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Post by cjeagle on Feb 18, 2011 0:56:06 GMT 8
Myanmar is basically a dictatorship ruled by military generals who have used their authority to enrich themselves. They have used their mineral(incl. precious gems) and forest resources to curry favor from their powerful neighbors China who needed those resources for its rapidly growing economy. In the process, they have been amassing a fortune rumored to be in the billions. The current head of government was even rumored to have wanted to bid on a English premiership team inspite being the leader of one of the poorest nations of SEA. Being avid football fans, they have numerous government built stadiums which are a lot better than ours and can afford to pay top money for the best coaches.
They should serve as an example of why it is not a good idea for us to let military officers rule our country.
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Post by Caz on Feb 20, 2011 1:30:59 GMT 8
They won't have much time under the new coach when we face them. Though they will have home field advantage. Nevertheless, we'll have far more experience under coach Weiss by then. In the long term though, provided he sticks around, Myanmar's football will most likely improve under this guy. Good for them. We can't take them as lightly as we normally do.
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Post by markdelvalle on Feb 20, 2011 2:41:38 GMT 8
tignan nyo from wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milan_%C5%BDivadinovi%C4%87looks like he wasnt as good as we thought he was.... Iraq: Win-10 Draw-8 Loss-11 (this was one of Iraq's mediocre periods) Ghana (2002): Wins-3 Draw-3 Loss-5 I couldnt verify who was the coach of which games, but based on the 2002 record, and Ghana switching coaches 3x in 2002, He did not do good enough for them, they decided to let him go and have a local manager run the team (Emmanuel Akwasi Afranie) Yemen: Wins-3 Draw-3 Loss-12 Yemen looked like a beat up rag doll with this record. In between those years they only won against sudan, on a friendly, and against a weaker team in form of Bhutan.
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Post by cjeagle on Feb 20, 2011 6:40:12 GMT 8
It seems that this coach has a penchant for walking out of contracts. From what I have read, he walked out of the Ghana team after some disagreements, claiming he was taking care of his sick mother. Same thing with the Iraqi team where they sued him for breach of contract at the CAS. On both occasions he seem to have disagreements on training with the respective FA. Basically he was blacklisted by FIFA. Syria initially wanted to sign him until they found out about this. No wonder he ended up at a relatively lower salary at Myanmar, inspite of his accomplishments in Europe. He has a very strong and volatile personality and doesn't want interference from the FA.
This is in stark contrast with Coach Weiss, who says that one of the most important things he has learned in his various jobs abroad is the ability to compromise and adapt to the different cultures he was a part of, traits that Dan Palami was especially looking for when perusing the 100 or so candidates that applied for the job of Philippine coach at SPOX.
One thing though, those records you mentioned looked a lot better than our record during the same time frame, just a few years ago and esp. with Iraq and Ghana were against much better opponents.
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