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Post by jvictor on Apr 21, 2011 15:26:24 GMT 8
Azkals should try to get an invitation to Copa America. We also have some spanish history, which could qualify us for the invitation? Copa America is a continental competition to determine the champion of South America just like the Asia Cup is competition for determining the Asian champion. They only invite teams from other continents to make it easier to set up the groups. At one time, they only invited countries in the Americas as befits its name but recently money and drawing potential has been the major reasons in choosing other teams both of which our country does not have in abundance. South America is not a purely Spanish continent but also have areas established by Portugal(Brazil), France(French Guiana), Netherlands(Surinam) and even the English(Falkland Islands which is claimed by Argentina) although some of these countries have chosen to participate in CONCACAF instead. If they had to chose a country because of heritage, they would chose Spain because of its drawing power. Majority of Filipinos don't even speak Spanish anymore which makes us different from the rest of the Hispanic world. It would better if play more tournaments you know! Nd how come Japan was invited in the Copa America if they don't have Spanish roots?
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Post by mrpmosh on Apr 21, 2011 15:51:17 GMT 8
mpmosh Monterrey had most of the shots and chances but couldn't finish because of the Filipino-Mexican goalie I told you about, Nick Rimando. He is 3rd string goalie for the US for a reason inspite of being only 5'10" and the abundance of US goalkeepers who are 6'3" and above. He is the best American goalkeeper playing in the US. Real Salt Lake was also able to keep possession of the ball for long stretches in the game which surprised me. Now Monterrey has to play at the high altitude and the cold climate of Utah where Real Salt Lake has not lost in 34 consecutive games. De Nigris and Zavala for Mexico and Beckerman for the US will not appear because of accumulation of yellow cards in the 2nd leg. I didn't see any impressive at RSL, but a lot of ness in Monterrey. Rimando's nothing special, really. The only thing I liked 'bout RSL was how they tried to play the first time. Monterrey has been in the last matches, has not won none of the last 6 matches, their players look tired and didn't see any hungry of victory appart from Neri Cardozo and Sergio Perez, Mier was class but defense's slow. I can't blame RSL for Monterrey ness but I hoped rayados could show more, both De Nigris and Zavala are big lost, specially De Nigris, also De Nigris injury in this match was devastating. I can say, Monterrey did nothing bad, but nothing good neither. RSL was not impressive, but scored, and that's at last the goal. Copa America is a continental competition to determine the champion of South America just like the Asia Cup is competition for determining the Asian champion. They only invite teams from other continents to make it easier to set up the groups. At one time, they only invited countries in the Americas as befits its name but recently money and drawing potential has been the major reasons in choosing other teams both of which our country does not have in abundance. South America is not a purely Spanish continent but also have areas established by Portugal(Brazil), France(French Guiana), Netherlands(Surinam) and even the English(Falkland Islands which is claimed by Argentina) although some of these countries have chosen to participate in CONCACAF instead. If they had to chose a country because of heritage, they would chose Spain because of its drawing power. Majority of Filipinos don't even speak Spanish anymore which makes us different from the rest of the Hispanic world. It would better if play more tournaments you know! Nd how come Japan was invited in the Copa America if they don't have Spanish roots? Cuz CONMEBOL doesn't care if they have Spanish roots or not, just if it brings rating, sponsors and competitiveness. Japan covers all them (and Nissan & Toyota have been CONMEBOL sponsors/partners for a while, that helps).
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Post by cjeagle on Apr 21, 2011 23:09:15 GMT 8
Well US squads even at the national level usually never look impressive against Mexico, as Mexican teams normally control most of the possession but they have been successful lately with their style of play. Maybe as you said, as Monterrey hasn't been playing well lately that REal caught them at a bad time for Monterrey. I agree though that the loss of De Nigris will hurt though in the 2nd leg.
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Post by cjeagle on Apr 28, 2011 0:51:58 GMT 8
RSL has precious little history on its side, and not much money as well. RSL’s payroll compared to that of Monterrey and possible Club World Cup opponents is as low as the temperatures forecast for Wednesday night.
RSL’s payroll for 26 players is roughly $2.6 million. Monterrey, seeking its first continental crown in its 66-year history, has several national team members making more than $1 million.
Last week, when RSL played in Monterrey, it was 95 degrees at gametime. On Wednesday night, temperatures at Rio Tinto Stadium in suburban Salt Lake City figure to be in the low 40s.
Monterrey is the favourite based on just salary alone, but is in the middle of a rough patch right now. Real Salt Lake has a good chance of providing an upset.
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Post by mrpmosh on Apr 28, 2011 11:08:15 GMT 8
I told them RSL fans in BS that what Monterrey needs more is a moral booster, it seems Suazo's goal might be that moral booster... hope so 
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Post by mrpmosh on Apr 28, 2011 11:58:41 GMT 8
Champions!!!!
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Post by cjeagle on Apr 28, 2011 12:18:02 GMT 8
Congrats Mr mosh. You guys were the favourites and you lived up to it. Now hopefully Monterrey makes the region proud at the CWC in Japan.
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Post by mrpmosh on Apr 28, 2011 12:42:58 GMT 8
By the way, I'm not a Monterrey (nor a Tigres fan, at least not in the Mexican primera, but in all the college sports... I'm an UANL student afterall), but I support all Mexican teams in international tournies, I really hope they do a good role in the CWC, we don't want another Pachuca, although I have to accept I do have a soft spot for both local teams (Tigres & Monterrey) cuz I grew going to both stadiums (most of my uncles are rayados & my dad is tigre). 
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Post by cjeagle on May 6, 2011 14:17:29 GMT 8
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Post by mrpmosh on May 8, 2011 6:27:45 GMT 8
Have been a few in the last decade in fact, Gabriel Caballero (played 2002's WC), Antonio Naelson "Zinha" (played in Germany 2006), Guillermo Franco (2006 & 2010 WCs), Vicente Matías Vuoso, Lucas Ayala & Leandro Augusto (all them played just in the WCQ for South Africa or friendlies around 2008-2009). The reaction is mixed, and depended of the player... guys like Lucas Ayala & Zinha have been in Mexico since they're 17 so is easier for them, but the main complain 'bout their calls is that most of them aren't so much better than the local talent.
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Post by cjeagle on May 9, 2011 0:39:52 GMT 8
I didn't know that there have been more than just a few. It seems to be an increasing trend from what you have detailed. I am a little surprised as I remember reading a few years back that some fans were criticizing your federation for naturalizing some Argentinians.
The Philippine national team has made it a policy at this time to only include players from abroad who have at least one parent who is Filipino as by law they are entitled to automatic citizenship. We do not have players who are naturalized even though some of the players who are dominating our local leagues come from Africa and elsewhere and could have helped our national team immensely. Some of them, notably the outstanding Elhabib brothers from Sudan have I believe acquired Philippine citizenship already after fulfilling the 5 year residency requirement.
This is due in part to the abundance of 2nd generation Filipinos playing in various leagues abroad and to assuage the sensitivity of the local Filipino players who are slowly being displaced by this players. By and large, most Filipinos consider children of Filipinos who happened to have been born abroad as Filipinos themselves but naturalizing players who have no blood linkage to the country might elicit outrage from some quarters.
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Post by mrpmosh on May 9, 2011 3:48:39 GMT 8
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Post by cjeagle on May 11, 2011 5:59:30 GMT 8
Looks like you are losing a player to England. Of course, it is always possible he will make a one time switch and play for your senior team.
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Post by mrpmosh on May 11, 2011 8:23:10 GMT 8
Will be hard to him to break into our U-20... there's just too much quality, even though I think he's good enough, his matches agaisnt Cerro Porteño could give him a push in to make the Mexican u-20 squad... or the English one, why not?
The goals that caught English media attention:
In Tuxtla Gutierrez:
In Lima:
(at 1:18)
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Post by cjeagle on May 11, 2011 23:17:02 GMT 8
England doesn't do as well in youth competitions so your player might be able to help their team. Besides as shown in the CONCACAF qualifiers, your team is pretty deep already. With chicarito's success with Manchester United, expect more scouts to look at your players at all levels.
BTW, I was told you cannot place ads on this forum. It is a violation of one of the rules of this forum. Please read above thread on rules. Thanks.
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