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Post by vimjonk on Jun 7, 2011 20:28:34 GMT 8
ababyup, that's what I teach them how to deal with freaks and retards like you.
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Post by teamplayer on Jun 7, 2011 21:50:41 GMT 8
I agree with some of the points already made but not all. It is very important to teach the distinction between playing good/attractive football and winning matches but it is not at all easy - as illustrated by Arsenal in the UK PL. It's great for kids to want to emulate Messi but realistically he is one of a kind. Probably the best player I have ever seen. Barcelona are probably the best club side in the world because they have found the balance between great individual skill on the ball and great team play. Their interplay is what wins most of their games with the occasional bit of brilliance from Messi as the icing on the cake. Obviously the Azkals don't have anything like the individual skill levels of the greatest sides but a great "team" should be able to generate results which are greater than the sum of the individual players. Being able to get your players to produce those results is the sign of good coaching routines and a good manager. The points about not leaving a void in the midfield are valid. Some players forget that every team member has some defensive responsibilities. What differs is the percentage of their time which is dedicated to defence. Unfortunately the press and most commentators focus almost exclusively on goals scored. I watched a game this week in which a defender expertly intercepted a rebound from the goal frame yet the commentators never gave any credit to the defender at all. In fact they didn't even mention his involvement! It was all about the attackers failure to score. That mentality filters through to young kids and consequently they grow up focused only on scoring and that in turn leads to players pushing or staying forward too much for the good of the team. I didn't see the recent Azkal games but it sounds as though that might well be a problem which needs to be addressed in future games. It's tough on those who are playing for a place though because coaches too are not immune from only assessing players who are not in the back four in terms of their contribution to scoring. The reality is that if you keep a clean sheet you only ever need to score one goal to win ! Hopefully when the final team is assembled, there will be a better balance between defence and attack. If you watch Manchester United you will often see Wayne Rooney back helping out the defence. I know he hasn't scored many goals this year but his contribution to the team is evidenced by the fact that he is very seldom left out except for tactical reasons.
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Post by akosiabab on Jun 7, 2011 22:07:17 GMT 8
ababyup, that's what I teach them how to deal with freaks and retards like you. dont cry...hehehe
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Post by narko on Jun 7, 2011 22:58:10 GMT 8
... I credit the coach of one team from Cebu who would forbid his goalie to boot it up to the other goal even if they were losing but would require them to play it out of their half on the ground. ahh, you've seen the unwritten pact/agreement among coaches of elementary level kids in Cebu That's interesting and good to know. I hope that sort of pact becomes the norm nationwide, or even institutionalized.
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Post by sheajane80 on Jun 7, 2011 23:12:14 GMT 8
ahh, you've seen the unwritten pact/agreement among coaches of elementary level kids in Cebu That's interesting and good to know. I hope that sort of pact becomes the norm nationwide, or even institutionalized. maganda yan kasi that means more time for the kids to learn the basics. kasi if they don't do that, then parang basketball na larong kanto ang nangyayari. maka defensive rebound lang ayun tapon na sa tamad mag rebound na na-una na sa court nila para salo sa tinapon na bola then lay-up. walang matutunan ang mga bata pag ganyan ang win sa football kasi eh.
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Post by narko on Jun 7, 2011 23:37:03 GMT 8
Sheajane, yan yung napansin ko dito sa mga laro ng mga bata kahit under 12 yrs old. Masyado competitive, kailangan manalo. Experience ko to dahil varsity player anak (10 yrs old) ko sa isang school dito sa Manila. Minsan nakaligtaan na yung oportunidad para ma-develop ng maayos yung basic skills and technique nila dahil naka-focus sa pag-score at all costs.
Nung overseas kami yung liga pinaglaruan ng anak ko hindi nag-encourage ng competitive format during regular season. Buong season walang standings kung win, draw or loss, basta laro lang ng laro. kung gusto isabak ng coach sa competitive atmosphere, sali kami sa invitational tournaments or festivals.
Pag regular season, bawal yung parents magsigaw ng instructions sa mga bata. Yung coaches bihira din gawin yun dahil gusto nila encourage decision making ng bata. isa pa, sa level ng u7-u9 hindi gaano emphasized yung team tactics, priority yung development of individual basic skills and technique. tapos sinasanay din yung mga bata sa lahat ng positions. pagdating ng u9, medyo meron ng konting specialization in terms of position and then tinuturo na rin yung teamwork and basic formations. May offside na rin sa u9 doon. dito pansin ko sa 7 a side ng 10 yrs old and below walang offside kaya minsan meron lang nakaabang ng outlet pass para 1v1 na kaagad sa goalie ng kabilang team.
dahil hindi competitive, may mga pangyayari na kung masyado mahina yung kalaban ng team ng anak ko at lamang na sila 4-0 yung gawin ng coach ay sabihan sila na gamitin yung weak foot para mag short pass or shoot at goal para masanay din yung weak foot. pag may nag score using strong foot sub kaagad. minsan din kung dehado naman team ng anak ko ang gawin ng kabilang coach ay bawasan nya ng isang player yung team nya, so from 7v7 naging 7v6 para may challenge din yung mga players. tama din siguro yun dahil ano matutunan ng mga bata kung masyado nila dominate yung kalaban nila, kung hindi ma challenge yung abilidad nila, hindi ma-develop yung galing nila di ba?
anyway, ngayon na nabibigyan na ng pansin yung football dito sa Pinas, hopeful ako na uunlad ng mabuti yung football natin.
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Post by xyz1000 on Jun 8, 2011 0:29:16 GMT 8
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Post by sheajane80 on Jun 8, 2011 1:04:03 GMT 8
narko tama yan. grabe naman pag puro wins lang gusto makuha ng coach at parents at gusto ng tactics kaagad at the expense of not being able to learn the basics early. at okay rin yung i-train early yung weak foot, kasi pag tumagal parang magiging strong foot mo na rin yan. another good idea is dapat kasali rin ang azkals team sa UFL, kumbaga parang gilas na kasali sa pba. i don't care if saka lang manonood ang maraming tao pag ang laro ay involving azkals. that is azkals vs every team once, that is in order to showcase the talents of the other teams and training na rin for the azkals. and also pera na rin yan for the ufl at pff. but unlike the gilas, the win/loss of the other teams against azkals doesn't count. kumbaga extra lang ang azkals doon. then another azkals vs ufl all-stars bago mag finals. they should exploit it na. more air-time sa ufl league, more exposure sa game. this is one way of making sure that this game will grow.
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Post by cjeagle on Jun 8, 2011 3:19:00 GMT 8
narko,
The same points you and I have brought up can be found in the article on the Ajax system of development which I posted in the grassroots development program forum. At a younger age, winning is not the objective. Developing technical skills is. In Europe this is taught in a structured environment where they teach the kids how to improve this skills in a scientific manner. In South America, the kids by and large, learn this techniques in the street at a young age using improvised goalposts and outdoing each other with improvised dribbling techniques. Kids in the Philippines should be encouraged to practice with their friends and with the ball even on their own after practice especially with the lack of fields available.
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Post by cjeagle on Jun 8, 2011 3:21:14 GMT 8
akosiabab,
let us not get personal. you have already made your point in the past. pagusapan na lang natin kung paano iimprove ang football sa Pilipinas okay.
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Post by rpbenchwarmer on Jun 8, 2011 13:13:35 GMT 8
Strength in numbers: Azkals' fans have fun in Sunday friendlyText and photos by Earl Victor Rosero 06/07/2011 | 08:55 PM Rarely are the stands of the University of Makati (UMak) track and field oval full of people almost all the way around for a football match. In the previous Sunday matches, only the center grandstand seated many. But Sunday, June 5 was different. Fans came in throngs to watch the men's national football team or the Azkals play in an exhibition match against a selection of star players from clubs competing in the United Football League. "Actually, we expected a good crowd, but it went beyond our estimate," Philippine Football Federation (PFF) General Secretary Ramon 'Chito' Manuel said via text message to GMA News Online. With a football in his hands, teenager Rafael Marilla said, "It is good that many came to watch their country's team play." Marilla plays football in high school during physical education class sessions. He said he will be able to watch the Philippines-Sri Lanka match on July 3 because an uncle of his was able to get tickets. A horn-like sound repeatedly blared from the far right stands behind the goal where Neil Etheridge stood guard in the first half of the fixture. The resounding call was coming from a long, yellow horn made of plastic and powered by the lungs of Manuel Caceres. "Mas masaya ngayon kaysa dati," Caceres said while on a brief break from blowing into the vuvuzela, a horn made popular during South Africa's hosting of the last FIFA World Cup. Behind him, at the upper bleachers, some fans got souvenir t-shirts, dog tags, caps and magazines. "I went to China to buy the vuvuzela while the scarf I got from Bacolod." said Caceres who was flamboyantly colorful in his blue-and-white wig and Azkals scarf. Whenever, the Azkals scored a goal, he jumped up from his seat then hopped and skipped in front of the crowd to get them to cheer even louder. "Football fan ako mula pa '80s and '90s. Noon, marami na ang 50 nanonood, kasama na siguro mga 10 outsiders tulad namin at iyong iba ay puro mga kamag-anak at kaibigan na ng national team players," Caceres recalled. Caceres said he did not yet have bleachers tickets for the match at the Rizal stadium but he hopes to get a few. He added that he was not eyeing any of the grandstand seats because, "pang-corporate iyon" in terms of pricing. Several rows behind Caceres was the Sison family, six members of them. The mother, Jovy Sison, said her kids were into taekwondo before, but her son, Joshua Verr, "shifted to (football) because of the Azkals and attended two modules of the Younghusband Football Academy last summer." She said they have no tickets yet to the game on July 3, "but if ever na wala, sa TV na lang." On the opposite end of the stands were the members of the 'booster squad' nicknamed Kaholeros, clad in blue and white uniforms. Using five-gallon plastic water containers as drums, they sent out rhythmic echoes reverberating all over the field. The crowds did not get seats near them mainly because they did not want to get toasted by the rays of the setting sun during what the weather bureau would later note as the second hottest day of the year. When the match ended, hundreds of fans streamed unto the field from the stands so they could get closer looks at and pictures of the players, coach Michael Weiss and team manager Dan Palami. Some had souvenir shots near the goals. Though the Azkals lost to the UFL All-Stars, 4-3, the fans still had wide smiles as they jostled for good position and aimed their cameras at the objects of their football affections. Patient ones lingered for a while longer so they could have pictures with some of the Azkals, UFL players and Kaholeros. It was a preview of the big game on July 3. Link: www.gmanews.tv/story/222778/sports/strength-in-numbers-azkals-fans-have-fun-in-sunday-friendly
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Post by npa on Jun 8, 2011 17:55:28 GMT 8
I agree with you guys about #17. Saw him play in their exhibition game vs CPU International and he also didn't do much except stand and look to his left and right as if kinda lost. He was no match against the Koreans. He's new so maybe he just needs time to gel with the team.
The game vs UFL was televised so the azlal's shortcomings were displayed blatantly. The 4 goals by the UFL team cannot just be blamed on Etheridge. The azkal's defense was very weak to start with, they were slow and not very aggressive. Their defensive players had some lapses that contributed to their loss.
I commend the teamwork displayed by James Younghusband & Chieffy Caligdong..great communication betweet them as with the pass of Chieffy to Ian Araneta.
The problem with the askals is that they are seen as individual personalites rather than as a team. Whatever weaknesses they have as individual players could be compensated if they work as a team.
People tend to forget that football is a team sport. Physical abilities should not only be the factor but more so the mental side of the game. The azkals lack communication especially with the new additions to the team. They gotta connect mentally. With barely a month to go we'll just hope that their teamwork will improve while in Germany.
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Post by npa on Jun 8, 2011 18:22:33 GMT 8
narko, The same points you and I have brought up can be found in the article on the Ajax system of development which I posted in the grassroots development program forum. At a younger age, winning is not the objective. Developing technical skills is. In Europe this is taught in a structured environment where they teach the kids how to improve this skills in a scientific manner. In South America, the kids by and large, learn this techniques in the street at a young age using improvised goalposts and outdoing each other with improvised dribbling techniques. Kids in the Philippines should be encouraged to practice with their friends and with the ball even on their own after practice especially with the lack of fields available. I'd also like to add that aside from the technical skills, what is important is the development of the child as a person. Coaches & parents sometimes become slaves of the scoreboard that they forget that kids are just kids and the pressure of winning is too much. Moral development of the child is important and the concept of discipline, teamwork, honesty and sportsmanship should be stressed.
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Post by rpbenchwarmer on Jun 8, 2011 18:40:20 GMT 8
Mizuno upset by Azkals' 'snub'By DING T. MARCELO June 8, 2011, 12:10am MANILA, Philippines — The shock defeat of the Philippine Football team has left not only its coach and team officials disappointed, it also upset one of the Azkals’ major backers in a different sort of way. Mizuno, which has supported the Azkals “when they were nothing,” said it was deeply hurt when the team played against a United Football League selection without wearing the company’s jerseys. Benny Gopez, whose company Mastersports is the sole distributor of Mizuno products for nearly 30 years, said that by using another jersey, the Azkals may have violated a contract it had signed with Mizuno in which the team agreed to use its jerseys in both local and international competitions. “We love the Azkals,” Gopez said, “what we can’t understand is why it suddenly decided not to use our jerseys.” Gopez, former president of the golf and volleyball associations, recalled that when the Azkals were the team Filipinos knew nothing about, and they went around looking for sponsors who mostly rejected them, Mizuno offered to support them “not for personal gain but because we have faith in them and that football needed all the help it can get.” “Now that they are big and popular,” Gopez said, “they apparently have forgotten who helped them when they were nothing.” Azkals team manager Dan Palami, in explaining the switch, said it was not their deliberate intention not to use Mizuno jerseys. The jerseys, he said, arrived late and they didn’t have time to put in the names of the other sponsors on the shirts. “Had we been given the uniforms in time to print our other sponsors, we would have gladly worn it,” Palami said. He also said the team did not wear a competing brand, what they wore was a backup practice jersey. He added that they always wore Mizuno shirts but the Sunday game was only a practice and exhibition match. He recognized Mizuno’s contribution to the national team. “Indeed Mizuno was there before the Azkals made their name, and for that, despite better offers from competitors, we extended their lapsed contract for one more year,” Palami said. Gopez admitted they are not really big sponsors, only suppliers of the team’s apparel, but he said the Azkals management should not forget those who supported them in their hour of need. Following unprecedented success in international campaign, the Azkals have become the newests darlings of Philippine sports, their top players matching the celebrity status of the country’s more popular basketball players. “But they have to return to their beginnings,” said Gopez. He wryly noted that the team that beat the Azkals, the UFL selection, during their exhibition game last Sunday, wore Mizuno jerseys. “Isn’t that poetic justice,” Gopez said. “Our jerseys also bring luck.” Link: www.mb.com.ph/articles/321706/mizuno-upset-azkals-snub
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Post by sheajane80 on Jun 8, 2011 19:01:49 GMT 8
mizuno mizuno thanks. they were there when nobody knew about the azkals.
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