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Post by strikerbon on May 29, 2012 0:32:05 GMT 8
i asked Dennis Wolf if there's any chance that he will play in the UFL, and he said why not, maybe
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Post by kulaspero15 on May 29, 2012 1:00:14 GMT 8
Exciting times for the UFL but they really have to train the referees if we want those players to stay in the league.
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Post by locotes on May 29, 2012 9:38:18 GMT 8
All I can say, the next UFL season will be awesome UFL powerhouse clubs have new quality players but what will happen to other UFL teams such as AFP Teams, Nomads, Green Archers etc? Will the score becomes massacre? ;D Are they signing also new players? The next UFL season must extend for more enjoyment and fun
Just like any other leagues in the world, somebody is on top but somebody needs to fill-up the bottom. I agree with cjeagle about more slot for promotion and relegation every season. That will keep all teams on their toes. Maybe we can see both league and cup on 1 calendar. Maybe UFL can create a 3rd cup that a team can win for next season. Loyola got 3 chances to win 3 cups/titles this season with them joining the Singapore cup
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Post by Wiking on May 29, 2012 11:30:35 GMT 8
Actually, I think it will be a deeper league than, say La Liga where they really have only 2 teams relevant! If you look at it, we have the big 3(Kaya, Global and LMS) but the way it looks like, the Stallions are stocking up for the next season with capable players and may challenge for #1. Pachanga FC can't be over looked with their ridiculous results on offense & defense. Pasargad and Nomads have a good core and only needs a few more to be even more relevant in the league. GAU has Global as a sponsor now maybe they'll have funds for recruiting more players.
Its too bad for the AFP teams, their reliance on players from only 1 province(generally) and very old players are starting to bite them in the @ss. Air Force, one of my favorites have done nothing to help themselves in regards to getting younger players.
They should relegate at least 2 from Div 1 and consequently promote 2 from Div 2. Dilliman can probably make some noise in Div 1 if given the chance.
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Post by cypher210 on May 29, 2012 11:43:10 GMT 8
i think they should relegate/promote 2 clubs at most since its a small league. i also think they should have a small cup tournament for div 2 teams in the future to keep them playing after an early elimination from the UFL cup.
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Post by narko on May 29, 2012 18:47:23 GMT 8
Wiking, regarding the Armed Forces teams, I believe they have the capability of getting younger players. Enlistment in one of the major armed services for football reasons is still a viable option for many young players out there in the provinces. Not all of them will be able to get pro contracts with the Kayas and Globals of the UFL. Playing football as an enlisted personnel provides a steady source of income, albeit not that big. I mean, compared with the other clubs in division 2 of UFL or even division 1, whose players need regular jobs to support themselves, I think this isn't such a bad deal.
Furthermore, with sponsors, the Armed Forces teams could provide performance bonuses to motivate their players. There's also the opportunity of being called to the national team and the possibility of commercial endorsements, something which Ian and Chieffy have benefited from.
But then, that is also the crux of the problem and perhaps partly the reason why the Armed Forces teams have on average the oldest players among the clubs in the league. It's still a good deal for an Armed Forces player and I guess they would like to keep on playing for as long as they can. Given the strong camaraderie that exists within the these teams, I think sentimental reasons factor just as much in terms of player selection.
Perhaps the prospect of relegation might be a catalyst that would turn the heads of management of these teams and consider the need for young blood to start beefing up their line-ups.
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Post by kuo24 on May 29, 2012 23:21:03 GMT 8
How about adding more teams? Division 1 and 2 have a combined 22 teams, there's definitely room for more. Mendiola United, Baguio or Ceres maybe?
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Post by cjeagle on May 29, 2012 23:33:32 GMT 8
kuo
I am not in favor of adding more teams to the UFL. It will dilute the available talent and lower the standard of play. However, those teams you mentioned should instead replace the bottom teams in the 2nd division next season, to further increase competition in the league. I agree in the future though, about setting up regional leagues with the winner of those leagues having a chance at promotion to the 2nd division possibly in a promotion playoff, while the bottom 2nd division teams get relegated to their respective regional leagues.
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Post by xyz1000 on May 30, 2012 0:39:27 GMT 8
Wiking, regarding the Armed Forces teams, I believe they have the capability of getting younger players. Enlistment in one of the major armed services for football reasons is still a viable option for many young players out there in the provinces. Not all of them will be able to get pro contracts with the Kayas and Globals of the UFL. Playing football as an enlisted personnel provides a steady source of income, albeit not that big. I mean, compared with the other clubs in division 2 of UFL or even division 1, whose players need regular jobs to support themselves, I think this isn't such a bad deal. Furthermore, with sponsors, the Armed Forces teams could provide performance bonuses to motivate their players. There's also the opportunity of being called to the national team and the possibility of commercial endorsements, something which Ian and Chieffy have benefited from. ...... That the armed forces should be involved in professional football especially now that the UFL is becoming more commercial is just wrong. Professional football isn't, and shouldn't be part of the mission of the armed forces of the Philippines. Their mission is to protect and defend the national interests through the military. Not to play professional football. Another point is that as the level of football in the UFL goes higher, which is the only direction it can go in the near future, it will be difficult for the armed forces team to keep up. What they can do is combine all the armed forces team into one, or sponsor a professional team where they can place exceptional military men to play.
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Post by cypher210 on May 30, 2012 1:19:48 GMT 8
kuo I am not in favor of adding more teams to the UFL. It will dilute the available talent and lower the standard of play. However, those teams you mentioned should instead replace the bottom teams in the 2nd division next season, to further increase competition in the league. I agree in the future though, about setting up regional leagues with the winner of those leagues having a chance at promotion to the 2nd division possibly in a promotion playoff, while the bottom 2nd division teams get relegated to their respective regional leagues. i agree with you on the affects of a Div 2 expansion but i think a Div 3 wouldn't hurt either. if there was a div 3, i think it should be with teams like Div 1 club reserves, new clubs, and clubs that cant keep up with Div 2. a div 3 would definitely help develop talent. but another UFL expansion would need more infrastructure.
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Post by locotes on May 30, 2012 9:44:51 GMT 8
The only good thing about playing for the AFP team is that all players get good medical coverage,decent pay (depends on the rank) and retirement is covered. They can play for the team for 5-6 years then still be employed after. If they have a career ending injury, they got medical and other benifits and still be on part of AFP. Its not an athletes venue where they can maximize their worth, but its more secured compared to other teams, right?
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Post by cjeagle on May 31, 2012 4:18:42 GMT 8
I have another suggestion for the UFL. Instead of having that Manila All Japan team, filled with Japanese expatriates, occupy the bottom level of the 2nd division. They should instead ask a Japanese professional team send their reserves or juniors to represent Japan. They are already doing this with Albirex Niigata FC in Singapore which is entirely Japanese or the soon to be named Yokohama FC in Hongkong which will have 6 Japanese imports from their parent club. Otherwise, I would rather have a more competitive Philippine side like Ceres FC or a team from Baguio, etc, fill that spot.
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Post by cilantro on Jun 1, 2012 9:05:18 GMT 8
maybe the armed forces teams can open-up their roster to non-enlisted personnel too. they did this last year w/ their volleyball teams in the shakey's v-league open conference last year anyway
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Post by benzgm on Jun 1, 2012 9:49:22 GMT 8
Ffrom my observation, national team members are often absorbed into the armed forces as a means of providing them with an income to supplement the pittance of an allowance athletes get from their NSA's. With the emergence of the UFL where football players could be paid plying their trade, the relevance of the Armed Forces in the sport's development is grossly diminished.
Maybe what the AFP could do is to combine the 3 teams into one to be able to be more competitive in the UFL, or, instead of opening up their roster to non-enlisted personnel, turn-over management of their teams to another entity with an agreement that a certain number of slots be reserved for enlisted men.
But first, improve the officiating!
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Post by Wiking on Jun 1, 2012 10:30:32 GMT 8
A few months ago, the General(?) who oversees the AF team was interviewed and said that they ARE allowed and have funds for none AF personnel. But with that, I still think that they are resistant to change. Like I mentioned earlier, virtually all their players are from 1 province. Its a good talking point on TV, but what about that Airman First Class from Pangasinan or Laguna, how is he going to tryout or get in the team when virtually all the players and coaches would rather look to their home town of Barotac Nuevo only or speak their particular dialect? There will be no change until the AFP teams hug the bottom of the 2nd Division. There is a player, To-nog or Tonog I believe, he's 42 and a starter for the team! Resistant to change. I like the idea of a unified AFP team with one major change. A professional coach who will play players by merit not by province. He mustn't be an AFP personnel. ...I guess they would like to keep on playing for as long as they can. Given the strong camaraderie that exists within the these teams, I think sentimental reasons factor just as much in terms of player selection. This reason is exactly why they are headed for irrelevance in the UFL 1st Division.
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