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Post by shanks608 on Nov 8, 2011 23:47:42 GMT 8
The most compelling evidence of this evolution of football culture was the 2010 WC where we saw the Spaniards playing like the Dutch and the Dutch playing like the Germans! Even the Brazilians are starting to look suspiciously English. And the English? Well, they played like e. Prost! haha.. Good one! Anyway, of to the topic. Well as i have observed we don't have a specific style of play for our team yet. but i think that the team is leaning towards total football type of play. but the problem is our defensive mindset is not yet that established that's why we always get caught sleeping during counter attacks. Possession football would fit us since filipino body types are smaller making us more agile and the center of gravity is lower and easier to control the ball. long balls won't work for us just like what happened to the Timor Leste match during the 1st half. we were outmatched since their players were bigger and taller.. when the team started to have fluid in passing in the 2nd half there were more chances for us to goal.. Well i think the style of play is progressing now unlike before that we had the "Hail Mary" style of play.. wherein we just kick the ball to the opponents side of the pitch and PRAY that someone gets it and makes a goal. LOL!
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Post by buddha on Nov 8, 2011 23:49:28 GMT 8
royg: it's interesting to note that while Germany steamrolled England and Argentina they couldn't find a way past Spain's patient possession. Teamgeist cracked and Tiki-taka won the day.
shanks608: dude, TotaalVoetbal is dead. Barcelona's version is but a shadow. It will take time (think in terms of decades) to develop our own football identity. To reach that level that we MUST have a professional league.
Proost!
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Post by jandrew87 on Nov 9, 2011 0:13:30 GMT 8
Actually, I can see our team developing a style similar to Argentina. I read this article which was shared on this thread and I thought to myself that this could be what happens in the Philippines, especially if children everywhere start catching on and playing football instead of basketball. In terms of culture, we can be like Argentina www.youthsoccerskills.com/stylesandculture/argentine-soccer.htmlbut then again, with DFB's help, it'll be a blend of the new German style as well. Therefore, the combination of Argentinian and German football could be what we would call a Filipino Football style. www.youthsoccerskills.com/stylesandculture/german-soccer-style.htmlthanks to the person that shared those links earlier! they were a great read!
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Post by buddha on Nov 9, 2011 0:20:12 GMT 8
*takes a bow. You're welcome, mate.
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Post by jose81 on Nov 9, 2011 1:30:38 GMT 8
I get your drift buddha and thank you for the welcome greeting royg!
I was able to coach a HS team in its first official tournament. how they played reminded me of how our U23 NT played against Vietnam. hence the post. I strongly believe that playing beautiful football starts with a solid cohesive unit that understands the whole concept of team play. regardless of technical prowess what really matters is the football IQ. Germans, Spaniards, italians, dutch...they have their own flair in playing the game, however, what separates them from the rest is the IQ. With that said, I hope our new crop of players will understand this more than how important it is to look "choi/cool" n the field. how they build up their game will determine who they are as footballers.
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Post by buddha on Nov 9, 2011 7:01:07 GMT 8
jose81: congratulations on getting your team to the tournament! I'm sure, regardless of the results, your players will value and learn from it and will thank you for that. being a HS team you still have the opportunity of training and molding your players because when they get to college habits are pretty much set. i coach both HS and college but I'd say i enjoy the HS team more. when i first stated with the HS team I currently coach (in Bukidnon) i realized how their attacking style favored athleticism. I was against it. I wanted to a style that would have room for those with limited athletic ability but who had good football brains. To do this we went through a lot of discussion, debate, watching videos to dissect different playing styles, changing the training routine (no more mindless jogging and sprinting), incorporating a lot of new drills that challenged the way we think. I even taught them Ultimate Frisbee and touch Rugby in order to instill principles of passing and movement (during soccer tournaments other teams are surprised that when my team warms up by playing ultimate frisbee and/or rugby instead! Hehehe!). This season I plan to teach incorporate basic Parkour. The result? We joined a football tournament a month ago and the highlight was our wins against two bigger, more athletic teams: 6-0 in the morning and 6-0 against the second team in the afternoon. At the end of the day referee came to congratulate the team on their Tiki-taka. And most satisfying of all, not a single yellow or red card throughout the weeklong tourney. If we want a mind shift among our players it has to start with us coaches. Two of the biggest influences on my coaching style is Wiel Coerver and Michel Bruyninckx. Let me share two articles that will inspire you: 1. news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/9421702.stm2. news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/9393966.stmEmbedded in these articles are principles that will guide us in creating more intelligent football players. Enjoy the journey!
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Post by jose81 on Nov 9, 2011 8:48:11 GMT 8
buddha: Manolo FC?
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Post by narko on Nov 9, 2011 10:14:31 GMT 8
A big part of Germany's game is based on quick, rapid flowing counter-attacks. Sucking in the opponent to create space behind their defense and hitting them on the counter. That's what they did to England and Argentina. What Spain did was prevent Germany from playing that way, basically denying them the ball through dominant possession, thereby decreasing German opportunities to hit on the counter.
I agree with the other posters about football intelligence or IQ. That is sorely lacking in our grassroots development and youth programs. The fix is improving the quality of our coaches and establishing uniform standards and guidelines.
Let's look at the composition of the homegrown players in the NT and U23 in the past year under Weiss. We have wingers (Chieffy), strikers (Ian, Barsales, Valmayor, Clarino) and defenders (Gener, Leonora, Basa, Aly, Anton) but did we have any homegrown central midfielders? I can't recall any playing in the central midfield roles and that for me is an interesting point.
It appears that our grassroots and youth programs are able to develop defenders, wingers and strikers who have been considered good enough to be called and cap for the U23 and senior national squads. Correct me if I'm wrong but our central midfielders have been those who learned their football overseas. I think even McMenemy's central midfielders either played overseas or learned to play football there in their early years too.
If this is the case, this is what needs to be addressed. Central midfield position is the one that requires the most footballing IQ and vision, our inability to locally develop quality talents in this position indicates a weakness in our current programs.
As for playing style, we need to play with the ball on the ground. We can't play a physical game due to our relative height and build, so we have to learn how to play smart and fast. With regard to fast, I don't only mean physically but also mentally.
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Post by markusbrutus on Nov 9, 2011 10:34:25 GMT 8
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Post by royg on Nov 9, 2011 10:42:46 GMT 8
Very nice signature Gestapo!
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Post by markusbrutus on Nov 9, 2011 10:45:26 GMT 8
royg: are you a gooner too?
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Post by royg on Nov 9, 2011 10:55:30 GMT 8
No bro, but you killed us 2 weeks ago... LOL
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Post by royg on Nov 9, 2011 11:03:31 GMT 8
Spot On guys! I really like buddha's views specially during the 2010 Suzuki cup and Narko's as well.
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Post by narko on Nov 9, 2011 12:32:53 GMT 8
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Post by buddha on Nov 9, 2011 17:53:01 GMT 8
jose81: Sangra Nueva FC (Mountain View College) narko: I've noticed in the football festivals and tournaments in my province that local coaches have a fixation on traditional wingplay (that is, get the ball to the wingers quickly which usually bypasses the midfield... then wingers carry the ball to the byline and cross to the centerforwards). Is it that while the rest of the football world moved on these guys got stuck in the 80's? Or is it because of the overuse of the wide 4-4-2 which naturally encourages wingplay. Last week my college team has been working on a 4-6-0 formation to counter the wingplay of the other local teams... that is, two centerbacks, two wingbacks, two defensive midfielders, two trequartistas, and two carrileros. That's essentially six midfielders! We tried it out in a friendly and despite it being a close match we lost 4-6 in the closing minutes. It'll probably take several more weeks of tweaking to get the players used to it. I'll let you know how it goes.
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