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Post by kulaspero15 on Jun 9, 2012 23:21:50 GMT 8
The fact that the our local based players are exposed playing with professional players is already a plus for them. I agree with the sentiments of most members here. the enhancement and improvement doesn't stop when you reach the senior level. However, there is a certain skill level that players have to possess in order to get attention. That's why we have to focus with the development of our grassroots programs so that when our local or homegrown players reaches the senior level. They already have the required skills to make it in the team.
Philippine football has gone a long way and we already have professional players with the required skill set. So if Im the coach or manager of the senior team, would I rather focus my attention in teaching local or homegrown players on how to understand the game and improve and enhace their football skills? Or do I rather focus on getting the best talent that we have to offer and start building a team?
What the players and fans need right now is patience. We already have a bunch of kids playing for our U14 and they already made a remarkable job in making this small football nation proud.
For the disgruntled players.. All I can say is that the ship has sailed.
Isn't it strange that a decade ago. Players from Luzon were frustrated because players from the Visayas region get preferential treatment from the PFF. ;D
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Post by Wiking on Jun 10, 2012 10:54:27 GMT 8
bigfoot I only based my comment from a message I received from someone close to the situation. And yes, I cannot disagree with your statement, our Belgian kids have sacrificed so much for so little a reward. I truly wish the "situation" with the current U22 team does not forever poison the will of those kids to represent the Philippines.
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Post by akosiabab on Jun 10, 2012 15:53:30 GMT 8
sana mag tulongan nalang kayo at wag makitid utak. buti nga sa inyo eh, naglalaro kayo sa UFL. eh dito samin, andami pang mas maling sa inyo eh sa local tourney lang naglalaro. ang kikitid nmn ng utak. sa cebu? hehehe..ohh cebu... sana khit mn lng palaro nag champion kayo bilib ako...khit elementary division mn lng...hehehe
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Post by akosiabab on Jun 10, 2012 15:57:03 GMT 8
yung sinasabi mo na decade ago mostly maling naman na mga players from visayas.
kailangan din natin turuan at ma exposed mga local based players. mga fil -euro maling na cla kailangan din e enhance ang laro ng local based players natin
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Post by kulaspero15 on Jun 10, 2012 17:41:17 GMT 8
Our local based and homegrown players get the exposure they need when they get to train with the national team. Nuff said.
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Post by chololot12 on Jun 10, 2012 17:47:07 GMT 8
Maling ung euro-players natin pero may kulang pa....ung Cohesion..paano ma build up ung team natin kung lagay2x tayo ng mga players sa starting 11 and reserve.....At tapos ung nag rereklamo na homegrown players natin nga di makapglaro sa azklas ay i prove muna sarili nila kahit sa UFL man lng...Makapaglaro sa 1st tier league natin ay napakaling exposure nyan...Sabi d2 yan ang galing nya pero pag praktis man o sa training camp eh kolelat na.. As of now di pa rin ako bilib sa team natin pero may progress namn so I'm happy with that...Tama nga si coach Wiess hindi madali mag build up ng national team...Lalo na pag may problema kahit sa individual skills ng players..It's not the same as the club na yan na trabaho nila.Araw2x practice.
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Post by kulaspero15 on Jun 10, 2012 19:59:39 GMT 8
Agree, those disgruntled homegrown players should prove themselves first in the UFL and should be consistent with their performance. There are several players who are decent enough for the national team but they are all inconsistent.
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Post by mrpmosh on Jun 11, 2012 3:01:34 GMT 8
The fact that the our local based players are exposed playing with professional players is already a plus for them. I agree with the sentiments of most members here. the enhancement and improvement doesn't stop when you reach the senior level. However, there is a certain skill level that players have to possess in order to get attention. That's why we have to focus with the development of our grassroots programs so that when our local or homegrown players reaches the senior level. They already have the required skills to make it in the team. Philippine football has gone a long way and we already have professional players with the required skill set. So if Im the coach or manager of the senior team, would I rather focus my attention in teaching local or homegrown players on how to understand the game and improve and enhace their football skills? Or do I rather focus on getting the best talent that we have to offer and start building a team? What the players and fans need right now is patience. We already have a bunch of kids playing for our U14 and they already made a remarkable job in making this small football nation proud. For the disgruntled players.. All I can say is that the ship has sailed. Isn't it strange that a decade ago. Players from Luzon were frustrated because players from the Visayas region get preferential treatment from the PFF. ;D This. The NT is not for development of the players, that's the club's dutty.
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Post by kulaspero15 on Jun 11, 2012 8:32:54 GMT 8
mrpmosh . Excellent point. Something I forgot to mention. In addition, some of the clubs in the 1st div. have their own Academies like Kaya, Loyola, Army, Global and even 2nd division clubs like Socceroo have it too.
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Post by locotes on Jun 11, 2012 11:34:44 GMT 8
I agree. Our national team is not designed as a grassroot program, you get to play for this team if you did well during your grassroot years. SO for those players complaining, let your game talk. ;D
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Post by stellarboy on Jan 31, 2013 13:00:27 GMT 8
Let me bring this up, from the recent article on InterAKTV: Azkals coach Hans Michael Weiss has long stressed the importance of his players’ commitment to the national team, which includes attending practices.
“The public doesn’t know that these guys don’t show up in training,” Weiss said. “Some come sometimes in training, and then they say, ‘we have no chance’ or cry around ‘the training is hard.’”
The German coach cited as an example Azkals goalkeeper Eduard Sacapaño, who stepped up in the absence of foreign-based keepers Neil Etheridge and Roland Mueller in their semifinal run in the ASEAN Football Federation Suzuki Cup last year.
“Look Sacapaño, he is always there, always there and he played a fantastic tournament,” Weiss said. “If Etheridge and Mueller are not around, it’s absolutely not a problem and not an extreme drop in quality.”
Despite that, Weiss hopes that he can lure more locally-based players in the team.
“We already have strong people here in the Philippines,” Weiss said. “We want to have them for training, maybe we can still develop something.”
www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/azkals-coach-weiss-hopes-more-local-talent-joins-squadRemember the bashings on the Younghusband brothers when they were dropped by the coaching staff during the Peace Cup because they weren't able to attend the training camp in the US and some of the ASEAN friendlies? Here Weiss has cleared some things up on the homegrown/local players. For one thing he said that "the public doesn’t know that these guys don’t show up in training. Some come sometimes in training, and then they say, 'we have no chance' or cry around 'the training is hard.'" A lot of people here in the forum have been clamouring that the likes of Tating Pasilan, Patrick Deyto, Balot Doctora, and the others to be called up to the national team. Call them "underrated" when they have been doing a great job in their UFL teams. But look at what Weiss have said, these local players lack something - maybe their skill to match with the foreign-born players or their mental capacity to handle such pressure in the team. Maybe they don't have that heart and dedication for the team as of yet. Maybe they're simply not good enough, for now.
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Post by benzgm on Jan 31, 2013 15:52:05 GMT 8
I understand the non-inclusion of Tating and other players from the national team... as mentiioned in Bob G.'s yahoo article on Tating Pasilan, Pasilan says he did try out for the national team early in the Weiss regime. But a busy work schedule and difficulties going to and from his home in Carmona (he only moved to Alabang last June) prompted him to pass on the national team for now. So as with Freddy G, being not able to commit to the national team. playing for the national team is a commitment, not an entitlement. and as what coach chot told Japeth Aguilar... “Son, playing time is earned, not demanded/expected. Wanna play at crunchtime? Work so hard your coach can’t afford to sit you. If he does, work anyway!”
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Post by mike fil montz on Feb 1, 2013 18:55:53 GMT 8
a simple case of mis-interpretation.. they are not "angry"... they're just "confused".. lol
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Post by fadzki on Feb 1, 2013 19:27:47 GMT 8
a simple case of mis-interpretation.. they are not "angry"... they're just "confused".. lol confused on whether they will show up or not for training camp..
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Post by orwat on Feb 2, 2013 12:18:58 GMT 8
“The public doesn’t know that these guys don’t show up in training,” Weiss said. “Some come sometimes in training, and then they say, ‘we have no chance’ or cry around ‘the training is hard.’”..
This does not dovetails very well with what Pasilan and Deyto said why they could not join the training regularly... They have very valid reasons... its understandable that they prioritize their job and studies first unless they can afford to lose them .... I believe homegrown players have the same desire in them to represent the country as with their fil foriegn counterparts.... but the realities just wont allow them to commit fully on the demands of the task... This however should not be left as it is and PFF really needs to see how to address the matter
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