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Post by beho on Feb 10, 2011 17:56:23 GMT 8
mas ok talaga siguro pag counter-attack lang muna tayo. hindi kasi magka intindihan mga players lalo na nung second half. pa ulit2x na lang ang error. hindi man lang maka kumpleto ng 2-3 pasa. ;D that's alot of non-sense bro, pano tayo magco-counter-attack nlang halos 90% nsa atin ang bola, maybe you meant if the azkals are up against stronger teams in the future.
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Post by logic09 on Feb 10, 2011 21:16:47 GMT 8
mas ok talaga siguro pag counter-attack lang muna tayo. hindi kasi magka intindihan mga players lalo na nung second half. pa ulit2x na lang ang error. hindi man lang maka kumpleto ng 2-3 pasa. ;D that's alot of non-sense bro, pano tayo magco-counter-attack nlang halos 90% nsa atin ang bola, maybe you meant if the azkals are up against stronger teams in the future. ---oo nga eh...more than 90% ay possession natin...hehhee gigil nga rin si neil nasa half field naka post minsan...slim chances lang na makadribble man lang ang opponent ...hehehe maganda na yun... may clear communication na among them in the field.
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Post by streetunka on Feb 10, 2011 22:58:11 GMT 8
woot woot i super enjoyed the game as i was on the field... but yes the team still has problems... and hopefully we can get them fixed for the 2nd leg... BTW some pics posted on the Photo section hehehe enjoi! nice to meet the peeps from the forum
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Post by filipinokopite on Feb 10, 2011 22:58:26 GMT 8
i agree. we could have done better what with the monglians down 1 man plus a lot of them seems to suffer from overheating. and yes, really a lot of errors that could have been catastrophic for us were the mongolians a better team.
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Post by samhain13 on Feb 10, 2011 23:54:42 GMT 8
in the Gener and De Jong error, a better opponent would have scored from that defensive lapse and we could not have maintained that ball possession superiority when our opponent would have press us a bit. The teams first touches are just horrible, could have been easily dispossessed. Our errant passes are ripe for picking against a team with a Ridhuan as a creator and a Safee as a lone striker. Top ASEAN teams have those types of players... I agree with your assessment, generally. There were a couple of "unforced errors" that could have led to a lot of embarrassment had the Azkals faced a stronger opponent. But on the other hand, many of the unforced errors may have been the direct result of the change in playing style (of course, that excludes the errors you've explicitly mentioned, which I think are real player errors). If the Azkals faced a tougher opponent, I doubt coach Weiss would have gambled with using a totally new approach as the team did last night. And I think that despite all the kinks that we saw, last night was a good time to make that shift considering the opponent. If the Azkals advance to the pre-qualifying group stage (as we expect them to), this sort of quick-passing and attacking style might be more useful than the park-the-bus-and-counter— provided that the Azkals can get used to it.
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Post by beho on Feb 11, 2011 0:00:28 GMT 8
in the Gener and De Jong error, a better opponent would have scored from that defensive lapse and we could not have maintained that ball possession superiority when our opponent would have press us a bit. The teams first touches are just horrible, could have been easily dispossessed. Our errant passes are ripe for picking against a team with a Ridhuan as a creator and a Safee as a lone striker. Top ASEAN teams have those types of players... I agree with your assessment, generally. There were a couple of "unforced errors" that could have led to a lot of embarrassment had the Azkals faced a stronger opponent. But on the other hand, many of the unforced errors may have been the direct result of the change in playing style (of course, that excludes the errors you've explicitly mentioned, which I think are real player errors). If the Azkals faced a tougher opponent, I doubt coach Weiss would have gambled with using a totally new approach as the team did last night. And I think that despite all the kinks that we saw, last night was a good time to make that shift considering the opponent. If the Azkals advance to the pre-qualifying group stage (as we expect them to), this sort of quick-passing and attacking style might be more useful than the park-the-bus-and-counter— provided that the Azkals can get used to it. ;)i agree with you, the azkals' strategy should really depend on who the azkals are facing!
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Post by beho on Feb 11, 2011 0:10:39 GMT 8
that's alot of non-sense bro, pano tayo magco-counter-attack nlang halos 90% nsa atin ang bola, maybe you meant if the azkals are up against stronger teams in the future. ---oo nga eh...more than 90% ay possession natin...hehhee gigil nga rin si neil nasa half field naka post minsan...slim chances lang na makadribble man lang ang opponent ...hehehe maganda na yun... may clear communication na among them in the field. :Dat least the azkals were on the right track of playing the right type of football which was one-touch football, & there's no better way to try it in an actual game than just to try in pratices.
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Post by beho on Feb 11, 2011 0:13:19 GMT 8
i agree. we could have done better what with the monglians down 1 man plus a lot of them seems to suffer from overheating. and yes, really a lot of errors that could have been catastrophic for us were the mongolians a better team. but i certainly doubt the azkals would have played that way had the azkals faced a tougher team. --edit: fixed broken BBCode.--
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Post by locotes on Feb 11, 2011 3:50:15 GMT 8
I have no complaints about the game. Aside from watching the game, I was also looking at the crowd,stadium and how people around me reacts while watching it on TV. If I add up everything, It was a success... The atmosphere was great, we watched it on a place were some folks are walk-in clients and didnt know anything about that game, they were in to it after a while cheering for the team.
BTW do we have a profile about Jason Sabio? I think he played decent as a sub. Any info about this guy? so we can it it on the profile section
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Post by samhain13 on Feb 11, 2011 4:02:00 GMT 8
;)i agree with you, the azkals' strategy should really depend on who the azkals are facing! Yeah, case-to-case basis. But I think we'll see a more possession-oriented/attacking style from the Azkals in the future, as coach Weiss said when he first came here. While it was far from perfect last game, I think the more the Azkals use that approach the more comfortable they'll be with it; and we're lucky to be facing relatively weaker opponents as the Azkals develop this style. Hopefully, by the time the Azkals face the stronger teams, they'll be better at this.
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Post by vimjonk on Feb 11, 2011 10:09:29 GMT 8
mas ok talaga siguro pag counter-attack lang muna tayo. hindi kasi magka intindihan mga players lalo na nung second half. pa ulit2x na lang ang error. hindi man lang maka kumpleto ng 2-3 pasa. ;D that's alot of non-sense bro, pano tayo magco-counter-attack nlang halos 90% nsa atin ang bola, maybe you meant if the azkals are up against stronger teams in the future. remember the days of Mourinho's Chelsea against Rafa's Liverpool they could have tried that in the 1st 20min. and try to lure out Mongolia in the open then hit them on the break. Mongolian 1st touches is as good as ours ;D if the Mongols continue to turtle it out then we could do what what we done last Wed. night and could say, what can we do, they wont come out... Anyway, we have not done anything much on the 1st 30 min. of play ...
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Post by beho on Feb 11, 2011 10:59:58 GMT 8
that's alot of non-sense bro, pano tayo magco-counter-attack nlang halos 90% nsa atin ang bola, maybe you meant if the azkals are up against stronger teams in the future. remember the days of Mourinho's Chelsea against Rafa's Liverpool they could have tried that in the 1st 20min. and try to lure out Mongolia in the open then hit them on the break. Mongolian 1st touches is as good as ours ;D if the Mongols continue to turtle it out then we could do what what we done last Wed. night and could say, what can we do, they wont come out... Anyway, we have not done anything much on the 1st 30 min. of play ... ;D :othere's one thing that i have to say that it's the most understatement here in this forum is that when you said that the mongols' first touches were as good as ours, the azkals 1st touches were not that excellent but definitely it was better than 1st touches of the mongols, so go figure!
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Post by r2b2 on Feb 11, 2011 11:00:08 GMT 8
ayaw nga nila tumawid no. hehe. siguro nga may takot na din yung ibang asian teams sa atin. nakaka frustrate lang kasi manood ng laro na dumedepensa lang ang kalaban. ;D
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Post by beho on Feb 11, 2011 11:12:03 GMT 8
;)i agree with you, the azkals' strategy should really depend on who the azkals are facing! Yeah, case-to-case basis. But I think we'll see a more possession-oriented/attacking style from the Azkals in the future, as coach Weiss said when he first came here. While it was far from perfect last game, I think the more the Azkals use that approach the more comfortable they'll be with it; and we're lucky to be facing relatively weaker opponents as the Azkals develop this style. Hopefully, by the time the Azkals face the stronger teams, they'll be better at this. ;)i agree bro! after last weds. game, at least, we could say that the azkals are headed towards the right direction on playing the correct type of football not the suicidal counter-attacking style of football that the azkals exhibited on the last suzuki cup(but we could use that counter-attacking style occassionally depending on their opponents) , & that the azkals' training is on the right track!!
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Post by vimjonk on Feb 11, 2011 11:18:47 GMT 8
;D :othere's one thing that i have to say that it's the most understatement here in this forum is that when you said that the mongols' first touches were as good as ours, the azkals 1st touches were not that excellent but definitely it was better than 1st touches of the mongols, so go figure! that's why I put the grinning smily at the end Our first touches are better than them so in the quick long ball counter behind the Mongols defensive line, there's gonna be loose ball for sure that we can capitalize... during the entire match, i am wishing of Coach W. shifting Borromeo up since our forwards are losing in the air against the Mongol defenders...
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