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Post by jaygee20gensaya on Oct 13, 2012 19:28:26 GMT 8
I think Indos adding Indo-Euros in the mix is a great idea but I'm also thinking about us will we be going to whipping boys in SEA if Indo at first and then other SEA countries follow our trend??? even if they have their own half breeds, i dont think that would result in us going back to the whipping boy era. since we have already settled our half breeds in the NT. and most of them playing in top level clubs esp schrock.
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Post by cjeagle on Oct 14, 2012 0:42:18 GMT 8
Please don't use the term half breed. It is considered offensive in many countries and our players will not appreciate it. As for any worries about our chances in the future, we have the largest expatriate population living abroad among the countries from SEA and as a result we not only have a larger pool to choose from plus currently also have the better players from higher leagues to potentially add to our team, so we should be okay long term.
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Post by jaygee20gensaya on Oct 15, 2012 15:22:58 GMT 8
Please don't use the term half breed. It is considered offensive in many countries and our players will not appreciate it. . I'm sorry for me using the term, rest assured that i will no longer use that term to describe our foreign based azkals, i had no offensive intention
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Post by Wiking on Oct 15, 2012 18:52:35 GMT 8
All the "complaints" Indonesia had about our Euro & American based players came to naught as they now can see their vast superiority over the Philippines has gone away and they now are doing what we and the rest of Europe are doing and have been doing.
Rest assured cjeagle is correct, the Philippine diaspora is extremely wide ranging thus our choices will be larger than any SEA nation into the forseeable future.
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Post by athrunzala on Oct 15, 2012 20:53:10 GMT 8
Philippines, Indonesia, Vietnam will be the top 3 in the future because they have citizens who play abroad. But the problem with the Vietnam players from abroad is will they want to play for their communist country which made their parents flee abroad? Lots of Indonesians in Netherlands and lots of Vietnamese players in French league too. But overall Philippines has more citizens based abroad among SEA nations.
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Post by cjeagle on Oct 15, 2012 23:21:26 GMT 8
Please don't use the term half breed. It is considered offensive in many countries and our players will not appreciate it. . I'm sorry for me using the term, rest assured that i will no longer use that term to describe our foreign based azkals, i had no offensive intention No problem. I knew it was unintentional. I am just trying to educate you guys on certain facts that is considered common knowledge in other countries but which most Filipinos might not be aware of. Cheers. As for which SEA countries are actively looking for players from abroad to reinforce their team, Singapore, Indonesia and the Philippines might have started it, but countries like Vietnam, Thailand, Timor Leste and even Malaysia are doing so as well with varying degrees of success. Thailand in particular is considering adding American and former MLS player Anthony Ampaipitakwong to the squad and was scheduled to play in a friendly match with Laos last September before having to withdraw due to illiness. We might end up seeing him in the Suzuki Cup playing against our team. He is their equivalent of our own Demetrius Omphroy. They also had a Thai-Swiss player on their national team who started playing for them in 2009 Peter Lang who I believe is no longer with the team.
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Post by tatotop on Oct 16, 2012 14:57:07 GMT 8
The positive side for SEA team adding foreign based players is make the level of football in the region increased and more competitive.
Anyway,Many south east asian teams playing in friendlies tonight : Hong Kong Vs Malaysia, Kuwait Vs Philippines, Singapore vs India, Vietnam Vs Indonesia
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Post by tatotop on Oct 16, 2012 22:53:25 GMT 8
Result for today friendlies: Vietnam 0-0 Indonesia Singapore 2-0 India Hong Kong 0-3 Malaysia
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Post by dingodile5 on Oct 17, 2012 10:10:47 GMT 8
After Man City and Arsenal this year, here's the next for MAS next year. When will another prestigious club visit PHI? Man Utd Coming To TownOctober 17, 2012 KUALA LUMPUR (17 Oct 2012) – MANCHESTER UNITED fans in Malaysia are in for a massive treat as star strikers Wayne Rooney and Robin van Persie are expected to make a trip here in July next year. The duo are likely to be among a strong Manchester United squad who are due to take part in a Far East Tour next year as part of their pre-season preparations. www.aseanfootball.org/?p=10222
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Post by tatotop on Oct 17, 2012 15:07:37 GMT 8
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Post by tatotop on Oct 17, 2012 15:29:01 GMT 8
INDONESIAN WHO INSPIRED '50s MERIDIAN Indonesia were, curiously, the first Asian country to qualify for a FIFA World Cup™. They nevertheless got there through the back door, after first Japan and then USA declined the chance to face them in a play-off for a place at France 1938. The Gallic adventure of the Dutch East Indies, as they were known before independence from the Netherlands, lasted just 90 minutes, though. Johannes van Mastenbroek’s charges were thumped 6-0 by Hungary. Not one of them was ever capped again. Indonesia are the only team to have played just one FIFA World Cup match. Default did, however, earn the south-east Asian archipelago a place at another major competition. Indeed, when the Men’s Olympic Football Tournament Melbourne 1956 was besieged with drop-outs, Indonesia were, due to proximity, handed what all and sundry assumed would be a solitary appearance. Their opponents in the second round were, after all, a magnificent Soviet Union side. It included outstanding players such as Lev Yashin, Igor Netto, Eduard Streltsov and Valentin Ivanov. It had beaten West Germany, the reigning world champions, in the first round. It was en route to becoming the maiden European champions. Yet the hulking Soviet Union defenders were quickly given a rude awakening when Ramang, a pint-sized deep-lying forward, skipped past two of them and forced Yashin into a fine fingertip save. And although Gavril Kachalin’s men monopolised possession thereafter, they were frustrated by their failure to ripple the underdogs’ net and by the skills of Ramang on the counter-attack. The 32-year-old would have even snatched Indonesia the mother of all upsets in the 84th minute had it not been for another marvellous stop from the man widely regarded as the greatest goalkeeper in football history. If the Soviets hadn’t known who Ramang was before that match, they certainly paid him attention heading into the replay. So much so that Kachalin ordered Netto, the team’s playmaker-in-chief, to adopt a more defensive role in order to negate the impact of the Indonesian No11. It worked. Soviet Union won 4-0. The fact that the Soviets went on to seize gold in Melbourne augmented the legend of that epic Indonesian performance, which remains one of the most stunning results in Olympic history. Yet it was merely the capstone in a national pomp indebted to Ramang. Intrinsically fast and having developed immaculate control by performing keepy-ups with oranges as a child, the attacker scored with military regularity following his Indonesia debut in 1952. Nineteen goals in just six games –including two trademark overhead-kicks –came during their Far East tour the ensuing year, in which the Indonesians lost only to Korea Republic. Ramang then netted back-to-back braces as Indonesia eliminated China PR in Sweden 1958 qualifying, but they withdrew from the running for a FIFA World Cup berth after refusing to take on Israel for political reasons. Shortly before that tournament unfolded, Indonesia seized consolation by beating India 4-1 to finish third at the Asian Games, while after losing their opener to Korea Republic at the 1960 Merdeka Tournament, the Ramang-inspired Indonesians smashed home 20 goals in four consecutive victories to claim bronze. And when East Germany visited Jakarta for what they assumed would be a comfortable victory in 1959, Ramang broke the deadlock with a superb piledriver before his mazy run led to Endang Witarsa’s second in a 2-2 draw. It was one of innumerable occasions fans of Indonesia or PSM Makassar, the club at which Ramang spent the majority of his career, were thrilled by a man who was forced to work low-pay jobs and live on the breadline just to indulge in the sport he loved. And while arguably Indonesia’s greatest-ever footballer passed away 25 years ago this Wednesday, the legend of Ramang will continue to be told. Source: FIFA.COM
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Post by tatotop on Oct 17, 2012 16:01:52 GMT 8
John Heitinga can not wait to visit Indonesia John Heitinga said that he is really interested to visit the birthplace of his grandfather and his father,which is Indonesia, that he and the Holland National team will visit next year. Heitinga is a Holland national player that has more than 80 Caps for the national team since his debut 8 years ago. Since Euro 2004, he always represent the back line of Holland NT. A week ago Holland NT has confirmed their Summer Asian Tour to China and Indonesia as their main destination. Heitinga is one of the player that really excited with the tour because it has a personal value for him. "My dad was born in Jakarta, Indonesia. In the end of 1950 he came to Holland with my grandparent. So that means I have Indonesian blood from my father, my Mom is Dutch. My parent met in Holland" "I always in contact with my grandfather, he is 85 year old but still look healthy. This Friday he will be in De Kuip. He always come to the stadium to see me play for the National team.Sometimes we even have dinner in the restaurant. Of course he also loves to meet his great-grand child. Usually I take him to Indonesian Restaurant" "Once I was a kid I always eat rice. I can not eat speak bahasa Indonesia, but I love to eat rice. haha. The national team's chef knew that I like rice. So when I am going to have my birthday next month, they know what they should cook for me" A chance for Heitinga to visit Indonesia actually could happened last summer, unfortunately Everton cancel their participation in Java Cup. "I supposed to go there with Everton last summer, but it was canceled. It's a pity but who knows maybe I can go there next year. I hope I can go there" "However, I have a plan to visit Indonesia someday. I want to stay there for 2 weeks. Maybe after I retired from football. I want to know the birthplace of my grandfather and my father." Source: www.goal.com/id-ID/news/1362/sepakbola-belanda/2012/10/13/3445165/eksklusif-john-heitinga-tak-sabar-sambangi-indonesia
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Post by cjeagle on Oct 18, 2012 0:01:35 GMT 8
Another thing that SEA countries should be aware of is that a lot of countries from the other regions of Asia have been following the European example and have been adding players from abroad to reinforce their teams. Even the stronger countries like Australia, Japan, Iran and Iraq have been doing so for some time. If we don't follow their example we will fall even further behind the other regions of Asia making it even more difficult to qualify for both World Cup and the Asian Cup competitions. I believe that what the Philippines is doing and will hopefully demonstrate in the Suzuki Cup will force the other SEA nations to double their efforts in this direction which will increase the standard in the region in the long run.
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Post by azkalfutboleros on Oct 18, 2012 17:45:03 GMT 8
Indonesia is full of Papua new guineans too, (Oktomanianus, Patrik Wanggai, Titus Bonai) i consider them IMPORTS regardless of what they say.
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Post by cjeagle on Oct 19, 2012 2:12:03 GMT 8
Indonesia is full of Papua new guineans too, (Oktomanianus, Patrik Wanggai, Titus Bonai) i consider them IMPORTS regardless of what they say. They are Indonesians just like our Aetas are Filipinos.
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