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Post by rhamz84 on Dec 14, 2012 6:24:12 GMT 8
Us fans should do the dirty work for them *winkwink* where's the like button ;D
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Post by rfm on Dec 14, 2012 10:59:00 GMT 8
Pure skills need not to be dirty tactics. Flawless flow of football that is product of crisp passing, amazing dribbling and adjusting technical strategy is more exciting to watch. Our Azkals have got better already ,now from my point of observation from their recent games is they need improvement on dribbling, quick ground passes (not dodging the ball in air when can be easily intercepted) and synchronized attacking setups like being automatic once there near the goal box.
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Post by narko on Dec 14, 2012 13:04:14 GMT 8
I did not state myself exactly as I wanted. I did not mean for the Azkals to become dirty players like the Thais. What I wanted to express was that we need overcome dirty tactics from other teams. It is becoming a way for them to beat us. Basically, just kick them Azkals around a bit, they will lose concentration, and eventually, the game. I do agree with dingodile5, playing clean is better. Perhaps a way to put it is to differentiate between playing "physical" and playing "dirty." I'm sure a number here will agree that there is a difference between the two. I'm sure our players can overcome physical play, a number of them play in that manner as well. As for dirty play, if the player is still standing after the hit then best not to lose focus and not get intimidated. But how do you overcome dirty play when you are forced to go to the sidelines for several minutes leaving your team a man down to have your cut stitched up? How do you overcome dirty play if it resulted into a broken ankle? In addition to keeping a cool head, dirty play is overcome by proper refereeing. If a referee allows dirty play to go on without cautioning the offending players and carding them if it keeps happening it can also affect the other team. It can be very frustrating for players and the team to see that the referee isn't clamping down on dirty play and seeing team mates running risk of injury by malicious tackles and hits. But that is the nature of the game of football, it isn't perfect. This time around the dirty play worked as the refs let most of it pass. sure they called the foul but the failure to bring out cards just meant the tactic was rotated among the players on the field. However, some other time, some other ref is not going to stand for that and those employing the tactic suddenly find themselves having a player sent off. It could go either way. So yes, I'd rather our team play clean and fairly. Physical, sure but never stoop to dirty tactics. Let talent and ability be the gauge of our team's effectiveness. I might be sounding a bit naive here but my opinion on this matter is perhaps colored by my experience as a parent of a young player.
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Post by Burz on Dec 14, 2012 17:01:16 GMT 8
Four Suzuki cup semi final game without a goal. That's something to worry about. Never ending long balls. Can't even make chances to cross the ball. Need to improve our offense IMHO.
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Post by dingodile5 on Dec 15, 2012 18:22:48 GMT 8
In this edition of the AFF Suzuki Cup, we placed third as we just ahead of Malaysia on goal difference.
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Post by stellarboy on Dec 15, 2012 19:31:21 GMT 8
That third place rank could give us a higher seeding during next edition's tournament draw.
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Post by mike fil montz on Dec 16, 2012 5:50:11 GMT 8
In this edition of the AFF Suzuki Cup, we placed third as we just ahead of Malaysia on goal difference. I thought we were going to battle it out with MAL for the third place.. anywayz, it would have been a great game... congratz to the NT for yet again a stellar performance.. cant wait for the next cup!...
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Post by veryfatchocobo on Dec 18, 2012 6:45:07 GMT 8
Pure skills need not to be dirty tactics. Flawless flow of football that is product of crisp passing, amazing dribbling and adjusting technical strategy is more exciting to watch. Our Azkals have got better already ,now from my point of observation from their recent games is they need improvement on dribbling, quick ground passes (not dodging the ball in air when can be easily intercepted) and synchronized attacking setups like being automatic once there near the goal box. Pretty much this. They can avoid being a victim of dirty tactics by just quick ground passes. Easy as that really... "undersized" Barcelona beat bigger English and German teams by placing passes between tackles and players. If there are lots of dirty tackles, it's usually a case of the tackles catching up to the ball.
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Post by strikerbon on Dec 18, 2012 8:28:32 GMT 8
^indeed. if you play a quick passing game, hard tackles can surely be avoided. Barcelona is a great example, beating the opposing team with a big size advantage. in fact, we have more big and tall players compared to what Barca has.
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Post by threestarsandasun on Dec 19, 2012 11:18:47 GMT 8
if we just take a look at the other side of the coin, i believe the AZKALS really are a threat to the thais... since they exerted too much physicality, dirty tactics, effort.. etc..
im not sure how they played during the thai vs malaysia since i wasnt able to watch games..
if we were just a nobody, the thais should have played us with their skills and talents..
btw, will AKTV air tonight's game (thai vs sng)?
i love thai food.. but not muay thai
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Post by stellarboy on Dec 19, 2012 12:04:25 GMT 8
StarSports will broadcast the finals live, while AKTV will broadcast them on a tape delay. Check their schedules.
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Post by dingodile5 on Dec 19, 2012 18:25:42 GMT 8
Duric is set to retire after the AFF Suzuki Cup Lions, War Elephants open two-legged Suzuki Cup final in SingaporeAgence France-Presse · Wednesday, December 19, 2012 · 1:01 pm SINGAPORE – Singapore and Thailand will vie for the honour of becoming Southeast Asia’s first four-time champions when the AFF Suzuki Cup final gets under way on Wednesday. Both teams have won the title three times, during a period in which they shared it for the first six editions, and they are reunited in the two-legged final after both failed to reach the semis at the last tournament in 2010. But two years after those disappointing campaigns, normal service has been resumed as they topped their respective groups before battling through tricky semi-finals to reach the final once again. The Thais have done it in impressive fashion, winning all of their group games against the Philippines, Myanmar and Vietnam before disposing of defending champions Malaysia 3-1 on aggregate in the last four. The “War Elephants” have not won the regional title in a decade but Winfried Schaefer’s vibrant side will be favourites after netting 12 times in five games with striker Teerasil Dangda bagging a tournament-leading five goals. And in Datsakorn Thonglao, they have a talented and combative midfielder who is determined to lift the title after finishing with runners-up medals in 2007 and 2008. “I have never been on the winning side in the AFF Suzuki Cup. It is a gap in my career. I want to put that right this year,” said the 28-year-old. Datsakorn will be gunning to avenge the loss to Singapore in the 2007 final when Khairul Amri’s thunderbolt with nine minutes left in the second leg gave the Lions a 3-2 aggregate victory. Amri has been hobbled by a series of injuries in the past four years but he netted the only goal over two legs in a hard-fought semi-final victory against the Philippines. That followed a group stage in which Singapore stunned neighbours Malaysia 3-0 and lost 1-0 to Indonesia, before they came from two goals down to beat unfancied Laos 4-3. Captain Shahril Ishak has led by example by scoring four goals while 42-year-old Aleksandar Duric, set to retire after the tournament, became the competition’s oldest goal-scorer when he found the net against Malaysia.
“Like us, Thailand have a good mixture of old and young players and I think that it will be a great final with the two best teams playing for the most prestigious trophy in Southeast Asian football,” said the veteran striker.
“For me, playing my last game at the Jalan Besar Stadium for the national team will be a special moment for me. I have two games left and I will be enjoying every moment especially knowing that it is the final.”The first leg will be played on the artificial pitch of Singapore’s Jalan Besar venue on Wednesday, with the return game at Bangkok’s Supachalasai Stadium on Saturday. www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/lions-war-elephants-open-two-legged-suzuki-cup-final-in-singapore
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Post by dingodile5 on Dec 19, 2012 22:16:15 GMT 8
RESULT: LEG 1
Singapore 3 - Thailand 1
Goal Scorers: SIN F. Mustafić (PG) 10' K. Amri 62' B. Khaizan 90'+1
THA 59' A. Lahsoh
Singapore is leading to win the 4th title
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Post by stellarboy on Dec 19, 2012 23:09:21 GMT 8
Looks like Singapore's chances to break their deadlock with Thailand with the most number of Asean championships are getting clearer. The only way for Thailand to beat Singapore at their home in the 2nd leg is to only score twice and not to concede an away goal, since Thailand scored an away goal in the first leg, which will count twice. Pretty interesting, I reckon.
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Post by cjeagle on Dec 20, 2012 5:39:11 GMT 8
I hope Azkal's team management will take note of what an experienced manager like Raddy Avramovic can do to a team. Raddy has said pretournament that this would be his last tournament for Singapore. If Singapore wins the Suzuki Cup, a lot of teams would be interested in his services and hopefully the Philippines would be one of them.
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