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Post by dingodile5 on Apr 12, 2012 17:07:52 GMT 8
I've seen that there is no thread regarding Philippines' FIFA and ELO rankings so I've decided to create for this topic. If there is existing topic about this just merge this thread
Anyway here's an article from ASEAN Football PHILIPPINES THE BIGGEST ASEAN MOVER IN LATEST FIFA RANKINGSApril 11, 2012 MANILA (12 April 2012) – The Philippines are the biggest mover in ASEAN where they have improved to148th in the latest rankings released by FIFA yesterday. Coming in third at the AFC Challenge Cup finals recently gave the Philippines eight points to better their previous 156th placing. Vietnam are still the best ranked team in ASEAN at 97th in the world moving up a rung from 98th where they have replaced Thailand as the finest team in the region. Current ASEAN champions Malaysia slipped to 156th from 152nd as former champions Singapore also moved down to 158th from 150th. CURRENT FIFA RANKINGS FOR ASEAN TEAMS (April 2012) 97th – Vietnam 141st – Thailand 148th – Philippines 151st – Indonesia 156th – Malaysia 158th – Singapore 173rd – Cambodia 173rd – Myanmar 175th – Laos 202nd – Brunei 204th – Timor Leste www.aseanfootball.org/?p=8110Next update is on May 7, 2012
Latest ELO Ranking 168
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Post by dingodile5 on Apr 12, 2012 23:50:08 GMT 8
This article is misleading the truth. I think this site is from Indonesia ;D FIFA ranking: 150 knocked out of the World, Indonesia also overtaken the Philippines
id=”article_content” readability=”61.0175572519″> Indonesia became lower in the latest FIFA rankings. Indonesia was not even on the list of 150 world ranking. Worse yet, the country which has been underestimated by Indonesia in football exploits in football ASEAN, the Philippines, was ranked even better. Indonesia was ranked to-151 in the latest FIFA rankings list released today, Wednesday (11/4). In the list of AFC, Indonesia is ranked 24th. In Southeast Asia, besides the Philippines, Indonesia also lost to Thailand. Thailand was ranked 20 AFC or FIFA 141, while the Philippines ranked 148th in the FIFA and AFC 22. Meanwhile, AFC occupied the highest position for Australia, followed by Japan and South Korea. Iran and China complement the AFC’s top five list. While in the FIFA rankings, Spain is still the dominant followed by Germany and Uruguay, which shifts the Netherlands to fourth. Portugal complete the top five list. FIFA rankings: 1. Spain 2. Germany 3. Uruguay 4. Netherlands 5. Portugal 6. Brazil 7. English 8. Croatia 9. Denmark 10. Argentina AFC rankings : 21. Australia 30. Japan 31. South Korea 51. Iran 66. China 69. Uzbekistan 70. Iraq 81. Jordan 84. Qatar 86. North Korea 87. Kuwait 89. Saudi Arabia 93. Bahrain 93. Oman 97. Vietnam 121. United Arab Emirates 126. Syrians 128. Lebanon 131. Tajikistan 141. Thailand 142. Turkmenistan 148. Philippine 149. Nepal 151. Indonesia 152. Bangladesh 153. Palestinian 156. Malaysia 156. Yemen 158. Singapore 161. Hong Kong 164. Maldives 165. India 168. Afghanistan 169. Chinese Taipei 173. 173 frangipani. Myanmar 175. Laos 177. Mongolia 181. Sri Lanka 182. Pakistan 194. Guam 195. Kyrgyzstan 198. Macao 201. Bhutan 202. Brunei Darussalam 204. Timor-Leste www.footballnews24.org/fifa-ranking-150-knocked-out-of-the-world-indonesia-also-overtaken-the-philippines/
Nice try Indonesians
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Post by stellarboy on May 9, 2012 17:18:58 GMT 8
May 9 2012 FIFA Rankings:
Philippines stays at 148th.
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Post by dingodile5 on May 9, 2012 18:31:54 GMT 8
Based on prognosis, even though we win the two games in June, we will still going down from 172 to 170 points unless 2 games were added it might change to increase hope THA and BAH will push through Rank in Asia: 22/46 Rank in SEA: 3/11 (4/12 if AUS is included) You see points for June game is lower that in past games because we are now in higher rank than MAS and IDN and the multiplier for points is friendly meaning x1 unlike in Challenge Cup x2.5 because its a Continental Qualifier. so in order to have a boost in rankings, we need to beat stonger teams and teams which are higher in ranking from us. Past calculation is also a factor since we have few games in the past. Our games increased during late 2010 ans so on.
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Post by stellarboy on May 17, 2012 15:34:38 GMT 8
FIFA Ranking - does it really matter for the Philippines?By football-rankings.info FIFA Ranking - does it really matter for the Philippines? Azkals fans are eager to see their team climbing in the rankings, but that's really not (very) important. The AFC officials simply don't like the FIFA World rankings. Until last year, they have always used past performance to seed the qualifiers for the World Cup and Asian Cup. Although in 2007 FIFA forced UEFA to use the FIFA Ranking to seed the teams for the 2010 preliminary draw, yet AFC still stood by their beloved past performance seeding. In 2011, AFC still snubbed the FIFA ranking for the first round draw, but FIFA stepped in and used the July 2011 FIFA ranking to seed the teams for the group stage draw. AFC used the FIFA ranking to seed the teams for the 2007 Asian Cup final tournament, but that was because Australia were making their debut in the competition and based on past performance they would have been seeded last. By concentrating on the 2014 AFC Challenge Cup as a path to the 2015 Asian Cup, the PFF and Michael Weiss are doing the right thing. Sure, the Azkals' ranking will drop by playing the likes of Guam, Malaysia and Indonesia, but they do need to build team chemistry. A quick look at the FIFA ranking calculation method Plenty of info can be found on FIFA.com, Wikipedia and Football-Rankings.Info (a bit of shameless self-promotion ). It takes into account competitive and friendly matches played in the last 48 months (4 time frames of 12 months). It doesn't reward teams for achievements like qualifying for a certain stage in a competition. For each time frame, points are computed for each match, added up and divided by the number of matches played in that time frame (but no fewer than 5). Thus, if a team only plays 3 matches in a time frame, the points will be divided by 5 - basically this adds 2 virtual defeats to the teams record. The formula for an individual match is: P = M x I x T x C M = points for match result (3 - win, 2 - PSO win, 1 - draw and PSO loss, 0 - defeat) I = importance of match (1 - friendly, 2.5 - WC or Asian Cup qualifier, 3 - Asian Cup and FIFA Confederations Cup, 4 - World Cup) T = opponent strength. For teams ranked 150th and below the value is 50. For the others it's computed using this formula: (200 - opponent ranking) C = strength of confederation (0.85 - OFC, 0.86 - AFC and CAF, 0.88 - CONCACAF, 1 - CONMEBOL and UEFA) Home/away and goal difference are not taken into account. Thus, you get the same amount of points for defeating Malaysia in Kuala Lumpur or for defeating Guam in Bacolod, as both teams are below 150th. Dan Palami once targeted a place in the top 120. That was difficult before, but since FIFA upgraded the Challenge Cup to continental qualifier status the top 120 is a reachable goal. However, the PFF officials have to keep in mind that playing against ASEAN teams will bring the ranking down (most of the times). For a win against Malaysia or Indonesia you get only 129 points. Thailand would bring 152.22 points, while Vietnam would bring 265.74 points. I'm fully aware that ASEAN Cup is very important for Azkals fans, but for FIFA it's only a friendly competition and it doesn't bring many points. You can follow Football-Rankings.Info on Twitter: @footballranks filipinofootball.blogspot.com/2012/05/fifa-ranking-does-it-really-matter-for.html
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Post by dingodile5 on May 19, 2012 9:09:17 GMT 8
Azkals seek improved FIFA ranking in June friendliesABS-CBNnews.com Posted at 05/17/2012 8:47 PM | Updated as of 05/17/2012 8:47 PM MANILA, Philippines – The Philippine Azkals are looking to improve its standing in the world rankings as it clashes against foreign teams this June. The Azkals, currently ranked No. 148 in the world, is scheduled for several friendly games next month. They accepted the invitation for a rematch against Southeast Asian powerhouse Malaysia on June 1 at the Shah Alam Stadium in Malaysia. This will be followed by a bout against Indonesia on June 5 at the Rizal Memorial Stadium in Manila and a June 12 clash against Guam at the Panaad Stadium in Bacolod City. “We wanted to play against Bahrain Under-22 but it was also important for us to get FIFA ranking points and that can only happen if we play senior teams,” Azkals team manager Dan Palami said in ASEAN Football. Palami said the team is delighted to play in Bacolod, a football hotbed in the Philippines. “The team is delighted at the prospect of playing again in Bacolod where support for the Azkals has also been overwhelming,” he said. The games will be aired live by ABS-CBN on Studio 23 with replays on BALLS Channel. www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/05/17/12/azkals-seek-improved-fifa-ranking-june-friendlies
Even though we win our 2 games, PHI points will still go down by 2 points and could possibly retain at 148. The game vs Guam will be included in the July ranking
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Post by stellarboy on Jun 5, 2012 22:16:03 GMT 8
With the double stalemates the PHI team experienced in these few days, expect the rankings to slightly go down when the FIFA rankings are released tomorrow.
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Post by cjeagle on Jun 5, 2012 22:19:55 GMT 8
Our ELO rankings which I think is more accurate will go up though since both Indonesia and Malaysia are ranked much higher than us in those rankings. We are now at 165 and still climbing. We have now improved 19 places in the ELO rankings since last year and will probably add some more after this game. Pretty soon it will catch up wth the FIFA rankings.
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Post by dingodile5 on Jun 5, 2012 23:52:44 GMT 8
I think we'll be at 151 in the world rankings and still 3rd in ASEAN ;D
Well ELO is much better gauge for Azkals improvement
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Post by teddyandtimmysdad on Jun 6, 2012 13:38:59 GMT 8
Haha Dingodile5, I think you have to check your cut/paste function, I'm not sure there is a country called 'fragipani' (see number 173).
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Post by bawalangpork on Jun 6, 2012 15:19:10 GMT 8
FIFA RANKING JUNE 2012 ASEAN
99. Vietnam 343 (down 2) 136. Thailand 234 (up 5) 149. Philippines 164 (down 1) 152. Indonesia 159 (down 1) 156. MALAYSIA 151 (down 3) 157. Singapore 143 (up 1) 174. Laos 96 (down 1) 176. Myanmar 94 (down 1) 177. Cambodia 92 (down 2) 202. Brunei 5 (down 1) 205. Timor 2 (down 1)
from Malaysia Soccer News FB. according to them its official. though not yet reflected in FIFA website.
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Post by jpesarza on Jun 6, 2012 16:26:46 GMT 8
FIFA RANKING JUNE 2012 ASEAN 99. Vietnam 343 (down 2) 136. Thailand 234 (up 5) 149. Philippines 164 (down 1) 152. Indonesia 159 (down 1) 156. MALAYSIA 151 (down 3) 157. Singapore 143 (up 1) 174. Laos 96 (down 1) 176. Myanmar 94 (down 1) 177. Cambodia 92 (down 2) 202. Brunei 5 (down 1) 205. Timor 2 (down 1) from Malaysia Soccer News FB. according to them its official. though not yet reflected in FIFA website. It's up already! Negative 1, We are placed 149 along with Nepal with 164 pts. www.fifa.com/worldranking/rankingtable/index.html?intcmp=fifacom_hp_module_ranking
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Post by marfin on Jun 8, 2012 9:54:59 GMT 8
Too bad our team just slide one more rank today to 149..
If i observe playing with lower ranked team, if we win we dont get extra point but if we draw or lose we lose more points...
Please stop playing with lower level team..................!!!!!
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Post by stellarboy on Jun 8, 2012 10:17:30 GMT 8
This is the best we can do for the moment. Should the PFF grab the invite from Vietnam to play them again, why not? And we haven't told you about the US training camp in August where the Philippines could compete against a CONCACAF team for the first time since the early 1950s.
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Post by marfin on Jun 8, 2012 10:23:16 GMT 8
We should challenge Thailand and Vietnam .....
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