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Post by kikomatsing on Nov 4, 2011 17:39:58 GMT 8
A lot of points have been discussed here and some heated arguments but all are valid points to consider. Like Sheajane's points( his post are annoying at times) our coach I think lacks the in game adjustments, he should have protected that flank when Vietnam continously attacking that line..plus he shuold just have fortified that midfield since as he have said we are abundant in midfielders...( should have done the Macca stlye and just wait for counter attacks) ... I also agree with Vimjonk...we should at least stick to our defensive strategy(remember Mou? at chealsea he has the best forward in drogba and the best midfielders like lampard but still cautious in his formations, same as his his stint at Inter, using one of the worlds best goal scorers as a winger in Eto'o but still winning a treble and same as what he is doing with REal Madrid)..we have the good defensive midfielders in Ott and JDJ .... But then this team is still young, we know we have a strong team that can compete with the SEA powerhouse teams but what we lack is a good strategy and a proper use of our strenrghts....based on the game against Vietnam we did good, we just need some few adjustments in spacing and bulking up the midfield to help the back four.
To sum up , I think we better employ a 4-2-3-1 formation ------muller------- carli-jacques VB- Matt Hartman-Leonora ------JDJ----M. Ott----- J. Christiaens- -Mark Hartman---Drinkuth -----------Valmayor---------
*note to the Mods...I hope you could be more linient to other members...they may be harsh in thier comments but they have some valid points
Go Pilipinas!!!!
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Post by narko on Nov 4, 2011 18:33:50 GMT 8
Has the team confirmed how they were set up for the Vietnam match? Was it a 4-4-2 or a 4-1-4-1?
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Post by forumaccount on Nov 4, 2011 20:01:23 GMT 8
5-0-5 po. ang sangkatutak na midfielders ay hanggang sa listahan lang. pagdating sa laro, they were non-existent.
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Post by narko on Nov 4, 2011 20:10:59 GMT 8
5-0-5 po. ang sangkatutak na midfielders ay hanggang sa listahan lang. pagdating sa laro, they were non-existent. Ha-ha, nice one. Come to think of it, it looked that way at certain times in the match.
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Post by kuo24 on Nov 4, 2011 21:30:47 GMT 8
Kikomatsing's formation fits well. To recap:
4-2-3-1 formation ------muller------- carli-jacques VB- Matt Hartman-Leonora ------JDJ----M. Ott----- J. Christiaens- -Mark Hartman---Drinkuth -----------Valmayor---------
But I think we need a good CB so we could move Matthew Hartmann to central attacking midfield then use his brother as a spark off the bench.
[we could also swap Drinkuth & Christiaens since the latter seems to be more comfortable on the left side]
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Post by narko on Nov 4, 2011 21:51:24 GMT 8
I prefer that Christaens be given a free role to roam across the width of the pitch, or at least swap flanks from time to time.
The advantage of playing Christaens as an inverted winger on the right is so that he can cut inside towards the middle to create a chance to shoot at goal with a better angle for his left foot.
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Post by sheajane80 on Nov 4, 2011 22:08:16 GMT 8
i agree give valmayor a chance. palitan si leonora sa starting xi, if they still insist on using him kasi kunti lang defenders natin then he should be replaced sa 2nd half kasi he doesn't have the stamina to last long.
Here are the other options, dinala mga yan para magamit. kasi di lahat ng maganda ang performance during traing eh maganda rin performance during crunch time. pag off-game ang mga top choices nila, they should take a good look at these other boys. let's give them the experience, let them prove that they deserve to be in the u23 football team.
Raymark Fernandez (DF) David Basa (DF) Marwin Angeles (MF) Jake Morallo (MF) Patrick Hinrichsen (MF) Joshua Beloya (FW) OJ Clarino (FW)
dapat umayos ang midfielders sa pag depensa next time. the mf's and those at the back shouldn't just ball watch and give too much space to the one who has the ball. lapitan nila,pahirapan naman nila, make them feel the pressure.
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Post by al luz812 on Nov 4, 2011 22:15:47 GMT 8
why not let matt hartmann sit on the bench.... he still yet to show up on international duty!!!!
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Post by fadzki on Nov 4, 2011 22:42:25 GMT 8
why not let matt hartmann sit on the bench.... he still yet to show up on international duty!!!! Matt or Mark?
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Post by azkalrules on Nov 4, 2011 22:54:04 GMT 8
i agree give valmayor a chance. palitan si leonora sa starting xi, if they still insist on using him kasi kunti lang defenders natin then he should be replaced sa 2nd half kasi he doesn't have the stamina to last long. Here are the other options, dinala mga yan para magamit. kasi di lahat ng maganda ang performance during traing eh maganda rin performance during crunch time. pag off-game ang mga top choices nila, they should take a good look at these other boys. let's give them the experience, let them prove that they deserve to be in the u23 football team. Raymark Fernandez (DF) David Basa (DF) Marwin Angeles (MF) Jake Morallo (MF) Patrick Hinrichsen (MF) Joshua Beloya (FW) OJ Clarino (FW) dapat umayos ang midfielders sa pag depensa next time. the mf's and those at the back shouldn't just ball watch and give too much space to the one who has the ball. lapitan nila,pahirapan naman nila, make them feel the pressure. Si Joshua po nasa first 11 ..... from the long ball from Mark H. I think ...... siya yung ng back flip ng bola and assisted kay Manny Ott inside the box for our only goal ..... #11 po si Beloya .... si Valmayor ata off the bench ..... happy ako both U23 strikers Beloya/ Valmayor at si Morallo are from Negros-Bacolod U23 team (NOFA). Sayang at wala si Dolino, Bedic at Unabia.
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Post by sheajane80 on Nov 4, 2011 22:54:54 GMT 8
baka sumagot yan na parehong disipulo lang naman ang dalawang yan eh. sali niyo na si philip at james para eight na lang kulang. haha
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Post by jpmanahan on Nov 4, 2011 23:30:11 GMT 8
To those who are peeved with Darren's commentating: AkTV on IBC is also showing the matches. You may opt to watch there instead of complaining.
To bigfoot: is Jeff C comfortable playing a support striker role where mark H's currently slotted?
I am fine with Neckson, pero sana naman, ayusin ang back four.
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Post by wenden96 on Nov 5, 2011 0:36:22 GMT 8
Even if we send our best U-23 lineup but with short preparation or short time for team training, the result will be the same. This U-23 team can compete with other powerhouse U-23 SEA countries if only they have a 2 months of training with a complete lineup.. agreed......if our foreign base players is not available, then build the locals for 5 to 6 months. i thought the start of the training of young lads was during the end of the under 23 tourney........
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Post by liverBLOODYREDpool on Nov 5, 2011 1:12:26 GMT 8
They should have played with defensive formation during the 2nd half anyway they lead 1-0 againstVietnam maybe a 4-4-2 formation. wasted yung good goal ni M.Ott especially against an experience Vietnam. don't you see they park the bus on the second half? thats why its all vietnam ball,.,. ah, nagpark the bus pala kaya ganung nakalusot pa rin ang sandamakmak na attacks satin? ang alam ko kasi sa park the bus, wala na dapat malulusutan ang attackers ng opposing team dahil basically, haharangan na nga lahat ng daanan di ba. pero di ba kasi, butas na butas po ang gitna natin, tas ayun, butas din sa left back kaya po non-existent yung park the bus na sinasabi mo sir.
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Post by sheajane80 on Nov 5, 2011 1:35:24 GMT 8
pano naging park the bus yun? when they still have the intent to attack.
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