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Post by curtlanceunited on Jan 24, 2011 20:54:48 GMT 8
Oh i see. The Elhabibs also said that they can't play for the Azkals yet, at least for the games against Mongolia.
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Post by xyz1000 on Jan 25, 2011 10:46:12 GMT 8
we can probably watch it on tfcnow. i think you can subscribe online, minimum of 2 days (not sure though). Just got off the phone with tfcnow. The rep didn't have any information on whether the game would be available on tfc and suggested to call again as the date gets closer. She knew exactly what I was talking about, however, so I'm sure I wasn't the first one to ask about it. $2.00 for 2 days. Not bad. I will do that if the game becomes available.
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Post by al luz812 on Jan 25, 2011 12:05:57 GMT 8
after mongolia, its good that the azkals will be in grp A. it is the softer group of the four. theres turkmenistan and india in grp b. tajikistan and kyrgistan in C and powerhouse nokors in D. the azkals are almost evenly matched with all the teams they are bracketed with.
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Post by markdelvalle on Jan 25, 2011 16:54:14 GMT 8
filipinofootball.blogspot.com/2011/01/azkals-will-beat-mongolia-3-0-borromeo.htmlBased on this article I am a tad worried about having just a 3-0 win against Mongolia. Yes, a 3-0 win would be AMAZING, but it would honestly be not enough to secure a win against them. Just remember that we are playing against them at Mongolia, a cold country, during winter. Mongolians are used to playing in this weather, and our players are not. Playing in the cold is different and should be a big precaution for our players. Has anyone tried playing a sport, or even ran in the cold on a winter day? I have, and it hurts like hell. I have ran half marathons, played soccer on over 90 minute games, and even did cross-country, but the idea of rrunning outside in the bitter cold is just messed up. I hate how the cld air makes me gag and hurts my throat, how my body acts after getting warmed up for a bit after running 30 minutes then running again, or how i cant feel my limbs when im running wearing sweats. This is like second nature to the Mongolian team and they will take advantage of this weakness as evidenced on their 5-0 win against Guam (I know, Guam, the team that has won only against 1 team ever.... Mongolia) at the rather cold city of Thimphu, in Bhutan in an April day (Thimpu's average high is 20C, lows of 7.1, the weather then during the game may be in the mid 10's according to calculations... this isnt even winter, guys!). The Guamese had a hard time playing especially with the climate difference. And definitely Mongolia will take this to their advantage! What the Philippine national team would need: 1. High altitude/cold weather training. As a proud Cebuano, I will bite the bitter pill and may become a persona non grata by saying this. Mr. Palami, skip the Cebu trip, I'm encouraging you to just skip it. I know that coming to Cebu, a crazed football province (Go FC Inter-Cebu!) would be a heart warming experience, but WE DO NOT NEED THE WARM. We need to feel the cold weather! Go to Baguio instead, or better yet, go tothe Mt. Province, Abra, Kalinga, Apayao, and Ifugao... Even Batanes in the mornings (this will be a good climate and geographical setup.... Also, there wont be that much crazed people skipping classes oggling your players, instead, you will have the privacy you deserve!) and Bukidon would be a great idea. With Ulan Bator's March average high's of -2C and a low of -11C trust me Mr. Palami, and the rest of the Azkal fans, you'll have to thank me in the future. 2. Invest on making our players get used to a hard physical game. The Mongolians are an agressive, physical breed. From ancient history (Genghis Khan) onwards, they have been born warriors. Even on their last 5 games they have averaged more than 1.5 yellow cards a game. With this said, they will run our players behind off, tackle and foul our Azkals in warm weather and in the cold! 3. Attack, attack, then defend. 3-0 will not do us good, what we need is a lead of more than 5. Unless we can have our players train in one of the giant freezers inside the Magnolia or Purefoods warehouses, our team will break down in Mongolia. We cannot just depend on a handful Fil-foreigners who has played in the cold or during winter to carry the load, our team can't win with 5 or 7 players semi-functioning. We need all 11 fully functioning players. If we cannot, then we need to score all the goals our team can trample Mongolia with to at least easen our burden when our team goes to Ulan Bator. I do hope that Mr. Palami will get to read this. I cringe on the idea of us winning here then be heartbroken once we get to Mongolia.
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Post by markdelvalle on Jan 25, 2011 16:56:37 GMT 8
Guys, feel free to comment about my post. Considering that the Mongolia match is our ticket to the Challenge cup, I believe this would be a great way to start a discussion about our teams strength and weaknesses, and how we can overcome it.
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Post by curtlanceunited on Jan 25, 2011 18:43:17 GMT 8
Dude, no need to worry a lot about the "almost freezing climate" of Mongolia. Remember that most of our first 11 are from Europe which means they are already used to playing in extra cold weather.
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Post by cjeagle on Jan 26, 2011 0:13:52 GMT 8
Yup I think we discussed this when kaligo first brought up the Cebu training program prior to the 2nd game. I said that they should have just gone straight to Baguio but he said it is only for 1 week.
I prefer if they stay for a month in Baguio not only for the cold but in preparation for the high alititude which takes time to acclimatize to. One week will not be enough to build the additional red blood cells necessary to play at high altitude.
As for the cold, we need to bring our northern europeans as face it, the locals will not be able to handle it. The Mexicans always lose to the US in the middle of winter and other countries don't play the same when faced with this conditions.
We might need to use an orange ball if it snows a lot. It sure is fun to watch though and will provide good experiences for our players especially for future games.
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Post by markdelvalle on Jan 26, 2011 4:50:03 GMT 8
See now, the winter climate there in Mongolia is honestly looks unbearable to play at. And like what I said, even if our core players are from outside the Philippines, we do need to have a constant rotation of players still. Even our foreign trained players will have trouble playing on those conditions, the pitch conditions are different, the games are outdoors (open outdoors that reminds me of Cebu City sports complex). Our equipment should be prepped for that climate as we would have to get our players ready for it. And honestly, I would rather have snow than a frigid tundra. most likely it would be that way there in Ulan Bataar. Sure, foreign based players are acclimatized to a certain degree of cold (if its like 10 to 16C, i think thats temperate enough for us in the northern hemisphere. I remembered running at Park City Utah with snow melting and that was how cold it was, and that was pleasant) , but ask any player if they have played on weather in the negatives, and higher altitudes, and most likely they would cringe at the idea of it. The away game is Mongolias trump card. Unless we can find a way to counter it, thats where we will fall.
All we have to do is learn from how Maldives won against Mongolia during their games last 2003. At Ulaan Bataar, they suffered terribly with the weather and ended up though with a win, but jsut a 0-1 result that Mongolia "may" come back and win it against. Now, when they went to the warmer Maldives, Maldives won by trashing the opposition 12-0 (even if they subbed their starting keeper out, I dont think that that would have made any difference with the outcome, neither was a red card on lukmengarav). Mongolians are not at par with us skill wise but they have the lung strength to play in cold and shallow aired places. It looks like this would be the 4th game that Mongolia would have at their own turf since their Inclusion to FIFA (The previous 3 were Maldives and North Korea, both as Worl Cup Qualifiers (where it all ended up with a Loss, then Macau for the ACC qualifiers last 09. They won that game, heavily, but away goal rule on aggregate seals the deal for Macau)
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Post by rpbenchwarmer on Jan 27, 2011 20:02:23 GMT 8
I saw the arrival of Azkals in Bacolod on TV Patrol just a few minutes ago and it's sad that those fans who showed up were just after the good looking guys and not the sport itself. I just hope that aside from stalking, they would also try to learn and eventually appreciate the beautiful game. Nevertheless, this is a good start for the young era of football in the Philippines.
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Post by cjeagle on Jan 28, 2011 11:13:05 GMT 8
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Post by al luz812 on Jan 28, 2011 11:29:42 GMT 8
not to undermine the mongols but theyre gonna get a bad beating from the azals on feb 9. its
going to be 6 goals differential minimum and could go as high as 11.
watch out for the scheduled tune up match between the azkals vs cpu-koreans on feb 2. i've
seen these koreans on the pitch and boy, they could REALLY play football. theyre young but
has excellent first touch, good execution and are very well coached.
i think theyre the only team locally who can keep up with the azkals.
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Post by locotes on Jan 28, 2011 11:33:27 GMT 8
I saw the arrival of Azkals in Bacolod on TV Patrol just a few minutes ago and it's sad that those fans who showed up were just after the good looking guys and not the sport itself. I just hope that aside from stalking, they would also try to learn and eventually appreciate the beautiful game. Nevertheless, this is a good start for the young era of football in the Philippines. I dont think it is sad. We need fans in this sport. I think the more the better. They help the sport a lot. Merchandise,gate reciept and TV. If I run a TV station and I see fans like this, I will air futbol games/show coz I know this fans will also watch it. Now if thats the case, who benefits most? us fans right?all of us. So I dont have a problem with this fans, let them scream. Lets not divide the fans and brand who is who(like whats going on at FB right now). We should find a way how to welcome everybody and gain numbers.
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Post by cjeagle on Jan 29, 2011 2:18:38 GMT 8
I saw the arrival of Azkals in Bacolod on TV Patrol just a few minutes ago and it's sad that those fans who showed up were just after the good looking guys and not the sport itself. I just hope that aside from stalking, they would also try to learn and eventually appreciate the beautiful game. Nevertheless, this is a good start for the young era of football in the Philippines. Its not sad at all. Sponsors will take notice and help fund the sport. Besides beach volleyball events won't be as popular either without those women in bikinis selling their sport. Its fun to watch the game and ogle at the sexy women as well.
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Post by rpbenchwarmer on Jan 29, 2011 10:29:47 GMT 8
Whoops, don't get me wrong guys. I'm not depriving those screaming fans from supporting our good looking players considering all the benefits that you guys have mentioned. As I said, football is having a good start in this country. All I'm hoping is they will also try to learn and appreciate the sport. That's it.
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Post by al luz812 on Jan 30, 2011 5:47:50 GMT 8
azkals vs cpu-koreans on feb3, at uno-r or they might test the pitch at panaad.
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