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Post by beho on Jan 31, 2011 13:41:49 GMT 8
I think excitement, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder-- if you think that the 1991 team was more exciting to watch, then who are we to say otherwise? But that goes both ways. I have to agree though that the offensive capabilities of the 2010 team needs improvement, and I can only hope that that improvement comes sooner rather than later. But I'd stop there because we really can't compare Araneta with Bedia (or P. Younghusband with N. Figidero) since they didn't play with and against the same people-- it's hard to find a basis for making a decent comparison. No disrespect to any one, but how was Bedia's finishing? How many goals actually came from all the scoring opportunities that he created or that his team created for him? bedia at his prime would be a perfect fit to the 2010 team. he can create great damage upfront with with a bunch of filfors behind him. ive seen the guy on the pitch, by the late 80s he played football in australia and lived with his family there up to now. yes, bedia is a better player upfront than those of the 2010 team. but the 1991 NT dont stand a chance against the azkals. very competent field players and there is THE NEIL between the posts. ;)oh! by the way did you watched the phil. football games way back in 1991?, by then elmer bedia was already slightly over his prime, but still can you recall how he created headaches for the opposing teams, i really think bedia is the best phil. winger of all time! he's not that great a finisher though, agree?
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Post by al luz812 on Jan 31, 2011 14:45:40 GMT 8
bedia at his prime would be a perfect fit to the 2010 team. he can create great damage upfront with with a bunch of filfors behind him. ive seen the guy on the pitch, by the late 80s he played football in australia and lived with his family there up to now. yes, bedia is a better player upfront than those of the 2010 team. but the 1991 NT dont stand a chance against the azkals. very competent field players and there is THE NEIL between the posts. ;)oh! by the way did you watched the phil. football games way back in 1991?, by then elmer bedia was already slightly over his prime, but still can you recall how he created headaches for the opposing teams, i really think bedia is the best phil. winger of all time! he's not that great a finisher though, agree? he was not the old footballer that he was when he came back from down under to play at 91 seagames but he can still keep up with rudy and nonoy, the regular strikers of the 91 NT. bedia is the best of all time but phil is still young and has proven himself. who knows, phil might be known as the golden boy of philippine football...the stage is set...give him some time.
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Post by beho on Jan 31, 2011 16:16:46 GMT 8
;)oh! by the way did you watched the phil. football games way back in 1991?, by then elmer bedia was already slightly over his prime, but still can you recall how he created headaches for the opposing teams, i really think bedia is the best phil. winger of all time! he's not that great a finisher though, agree? he was not the old footballer that he was when he came back from down under to play at 91 seagames but he can still keep up with rudy and nonoy, the regular strikers of the 91 NT. bedia is the best of all time but phil is still young and has proven himself. who knows, phil might be known as the golden boy of philippine football...the stage is set...give him some time. ???we'll see
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Post by samhain13 on Jan 31, 2011 17:39:34 GMT 8
So we're now having an "it's my dawg vs your dawg" discussion? I'll join in. Hahaha! Beat my dawg: Paulino Alcantara - the undisputed best Filipino footballer of all time. ;D
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Post by al luz812 on Jan 31, 2011 19:01:37 GMT 8
So we're now having an "it's my dawg vs your dawg" discussion? I'll join in. Hahaha! Beat my dawg: Paulino Alcantara - the undisputed best Filipino footballer of all time. ;D its not dawg vs dawg sam, bedia's career is over and he was very good. phil's not even halfway through. but you thumped us sam, elmer and phil were mere gusts compared to your paulino's hurricane strength wind.
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Post by beho on Jan 31, 2011 20:12:41 GMT 8
So we're now having an "it's my dawg vs your dawg" discussion? I'll join in. Hahaha! Beat my dawg: Paulino Alcantara - the undisputed best Filipino footballer of all time. ;D :)hey, i don't know if alcantara is a winger, as far as i'm concerned bedia is the best winger not footballer, peace!
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Post by samhain13 on Feb 1, 2011 0:03:57 GMT 8
Yes beho, we get it. You really like Bedia— for reasons that we will no longer ask. Can we talk about something else now? How about Nonoy Carpio vs Neil Etheridge? Of course, IIRC, Carpio play professional football in Singapore. That's hardcore home-brew who made it as an import in another country; same as with Freddie Gonzalez who played pro in Vietnam around a decade later. Ever wondered how far these guys could have gone had they been trained in a better environment? ;D
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Post by al luz812 on Feb 1, 2011 6:29:19 GMT 8
Yes beho, we get it. You really like Bedia— for reasons that we will no longer ask. Can we talk about something else now? How about Nonoy Carpio vs Neil Etheridge? Of course, IIRC, Carpio play professional football in Singapore. That's hardcore home-brew who made it as an import in another country; same as with Freddie Gonzalez who played pro in Vietnam around a decade later. Ever wondered how far these guys could have gone had they been trained in a better environment? ;D nonoy carpio like THE NEIL is tall and widely built. but thats where all the similarities end, THE NEIL is waay ahead in all-around gk capability and the hes only TWENTY!!
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Post by beho on Feb 1, 2011 9:12:20 GMT 8
Yes beho, we get it. You really like Bedia— for reasons that we will no longer ask. Can we talk about something else now? How about Nonoy Carpio vs Neil Etheridge? Of course, IIRC, Carpio play professional football in Singapore. That's hardcore home-brew who made it as an import in another country; same as with Freddie Gonzalez who played pro in Vietnam around a decade later. Ever wondered how far these guys could have gone had they been trained in a better environment? ;D ;)have you ever heard of a filipino goalkeeper by the name of pedro cecilio, he's also one of my favorites, too bad the phil. team 's defense was so weak at that time for him (the gk) to make an impact for the phil. team, he was the phil. goalkeeper during the late 80's just before the 91 sea games , he was the most acrobatic goalkeeper i've ever seen, too bad he was with one of the worst phil. team ever assembled, losing to foreign provincial teams 5-0 , 7-1 etc. but still for me he's one of the best filipino gk!
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Post by beho on Feb 1, 2011 9:25:24 GMT 8
Yes beho, we get it. You really like Bedia— for reasons that we will no longer ask. Can we talk about something else now? How about Nonoy Carpio vs Neil Etheridge? Of course, IIRC, Carpio play professional football in Singapore. That's hardcore home-brew who made it as an import in another country; same as with Freddie Gonzalez who played pro in Vietnam around a decade later. Ever wondered how far these guys could have gone had they been trained in a better environment? ;D nonoy carpio like THE NEIL is tall and widely built. but thats where all the similarities end, THE NEIL is waay ahead in all-around gk capability and the hes only TWENTY!! ;)can you share something about freddie gonzalez, just a hunch, i think you knew some facts about gonzales, & i'm just being curious, where or what is tamasak's stable? tnks
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Post by samhain13 on Feb 2, 2011 1:57:20 GMT 8
;)have you ever heard of a filipino goalkeeper by the name of pedro cecilio, he's also one of my favorites, too bad the phil. team 's defense was so weak at that time for him (the gk) to make an impact for the phil. team, he was the phil. goalkeeper during the late 80's just before the 91 sea games , he was the most acrobatic goalkeeper i've ever seen, too bad he was with one of the worst phil. team ever assembled, losing to foreign provincial teams 5-0 , 7-1 etc. but still for me he's one of the best filipino gk! Way too early for me if Cecilio played in the 80's, I couldn't have heard of him unless I knew him personally (hehe). Anyhow, regarding Gonzalez. When he first came around, I thought he was US-born and raised. Apparently, the guy's a real "local"— went to high school here in Manila and attended the Makati Football School, then went to the States for college and played varsity soccer there. More here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfredo_Razon_Gonzalez The article mentions that he played part-time in Europe, IIRC, that stint was in Calais, France. I don't know exactly why he left but I think he transferred to Vietnam along with one of the Calais coaches. Anyway, "tamasak's stable"? @al luz812: that's why I said "better environment". Etheridge surely benefited from his training with EPL clubs, that's why he's so good. Maybe one day, we'll have really big local clubs too, that can train guys in a similar way to how the big European clubs train their players.
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Post by beho on Feb 2, 2011 9:12:48 GMT 8
;)have you ever heard of a filipino goalkeeper by the name of pedro cecilio, he's also one of my favorites, too bad the phil. team 's defense was so weak at that time for him (the gk) to make an impact for the phil. team, he was the phil. goalkeeper during the late 80's just before the 91 sea games , he was the most acrobatic goalkeeper i've ever seen, too bad he was with one of the worst phil. team ever assembled, losing to foreign provincial teams 5-0 , 7-1 etc. but still for me he's one of the best filipino gk! Way too early for me if Cecilio played in the 80's, I couldn't have heard of him unless I knew him personally (hehe). Anyhow, regarding Gonzalez. When he first came around, I thought he was US-born and raised. Apparently, the guy's a real "local"— went to high school here in Manila and attended the Makati Football School, then went to the States for college and played varsity soccer there. More here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfredo_Razon_Gonzalez The article mentions that he played part-time in Europe, IIRC, that stint was in Calais, France. I don't know exactly why he left but I think he transferred to Vietnam along with one of the Calais coaches. Anyway, "tamasak's stable"? @al luz812: that's why I said "better environment". Etheridge surely benefited from his training with EPL clubs, that's why he's so good. Maybe one day, we'll have really big local clubs too, that can train guys in a similar way to how the big European clubs train their players. :)how long did gonzales played in the v-league?did he faired well?
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Post by beho on Feb 17, 2011 17:52:22 GMT 8
1986 Mr. Football returns, happy for nationals Cedelf P. Tupas First Posted 02:42:56 10/02/2011 BACOLOD CITY—The Philippines’ first home football match in three years has lured people even from as far as the United States and Australia. And among them is a player who made his mark for the country long before the Azkals became a household name. Elmer Bedia, the star of the national team in the mid 1980s and the early ’90s, came all the way from Brisbane just to witness the AFC Challenge Cup match pitting the Philippines and Mongolia that drew close to 20,000 at the Panaad Stadium. “I’m happy football is where it is now,” Bedia, the 1986 Mr. Football Awardee, told the Inquirer. “We’re just hoping that the success of the team continues.” Bedia was among the heroes of the national squad that made it to the semifinals of the 1991 Southeast Asian Games in Manila. He delivered the cross that allowed Norman Fegidero to slot home the winning goal against then defending champion Malaysia at the Rizal Memorial pitch. Bedia made an impromptu appearance at the team meeting yesterday morning. “Play the match with a lot of heart,” he told some of the players. Bedia now coaches youth teams in Brisbane and helps out with the Homeless World Cup team, which is seeing action in Rio de Janeiro this year. Also making the trip to Bacolod is David Pallasuige, a Chicago-based realtor, who also contributes articles to a football website. “I just wanted to see the Azkals play and write about them,” said the Quezon City-born Pallasuige, 42, who is flying back to Chicago by the end of the week. Munich-based Haruka Gruber, who covers football for an online magazine SPOX, is among the more than 200 journalists and photographers accredited for the match. here's the link: Source: www.inquirer.net/sports/articles ... onals.html ;D that's elmer bedia believe me, he's one of the best filipino football player ever! ;D _________________
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Post by beho on Feb 25, 2011 23:41:26 GMT 8
;DNo one from the current azkals line-up can outrun the 1991 phl team striker Mr. Rodolfo Del Rosario, can anyone attest to this?
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Post by beho on Mar 28, 2011 13:41:42 GMT 8
Guys..any pics of the 1991 team?? ;Dat long last here's a photo of the 1991 azkals hehehe, ;D
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