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Post by rhamz84 on Nov 5, 2011 19:56:00 GMT 8
Wow ganda to panoorin
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Post by vimjonk on Nov 5, 2011 20:01:18 GMT 8
Sa totoo lang masasabi natin na dumadami na ang umaabang sa mga current events ng Azkals as compare dati which is maganda naman. Eh dati kahit tambangan pa ang NT natin mostly walang pakialam, e ngayon dumadami na mga reactions good/ bad. Sana nga tuloy2x lang support, mga 5-10 years time siguro naman may improvement. many die hard fans are watching in the past. it's just that discussions are moot since we cannot suggest anything about it. Let's say the team in the heydays of Margarse, Barsales and Caligdong circa 2003 to 2005 before the arrivals of the Younghusbands and company. Even if we put Mourinho or Dunga or Menezes as managers and institute a 10-0-0 formation, they would still lose due to the extreme lack of technical skills, administrative support and international footballing experience.
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Post by rhamz84 on Nov 5, 2011 20:03:30 GMT 8
Time can only tell my friend, for now lets just enjoy what we have and try to improve perhaps
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Post by jpesarza on Nov 5, 2011 20:10:19 GMT 8
... You really guys think that Weiss and his company are stupid enough not to realize the team’s flaws in that game or the previous games? Seriously? You really think that as we speak now Weiss and his staff’s not burning up strategies to be used for the next opponents. I don’t know about that, but he’s not a national coach for nothing he’s been thru various clubs for maybe decades of experience. Im not a fan of him, I am also filled with questions about his way of deciding things but there’s less that we can do. What im tryin’a say is cut the crap, move on and save the lashes after the whole tourney ends cuz right now the lads are all pressured and what makes them at ease is our SUPPORT. Please. YES, judging from his previous results and the latest results against Vietnam. Two different teams he handled, still the same results. Even if you will not watch the game, a simple overview of the game stats, you can easily discern that our left flank is ass-raped by the opponent. Why is he not doing anything? How would you explain that? Unless we would say that Weiss is best friend with other German coach and decided to drop the game so that the Vietnam coach would not get his ass fried. Then we would be slapped by Occam's razor. Never attribute to malice what can be attributed to plain stupidity. Not much are attacking/lashing the players here. Even Leonora, it's not his fault that he sucked so much on that side. The consensus here since the Singapore match is the coach is plain crappy. He doesn't have any tactical sense. Maybe the reason he was given for free by the DFB is because he can't find any coaching job in Germany. He can't even win a Sunday League game. Dude i can't believe how judgmental you are, hope your children will not learn your way of creative thinking. Cuz you know what? here's the thing you weren't in the actual game with the team, so how sure are you that Weiss did not realize the open flank as soon as the Viets focused their attacks on our LB? how sure are you that Weiss did not advise the boys to help defend the right wingers of Veits targeting our left flank? How about we consider that Weiss and the coaches did advise the boys but the boys just can't handle the obligation? (Oh that's a different thing, im not advising you to blame the kids but just think out of the box and just don't focus your blame onto one person alone--- cuz for goddesses sake it's a team game-- blast someone in times like this one is No Good for the team.) How about you just stop blaming the coach/manager for the team's sake. Just for the duration of this tourney. Cuz you know what this man you're lashing wants a win more than any of us here, he's not fighting maybe for this country but atleast he's fighting for his image and credibility as a coach. I am not saving Weiss' ass here, i am for the team. Just a lil respect for the guy that figured the improvement of the games of our Nationals. Respect man! Believe me, my vote is with you if you want to kick Weiss out. But save it for later. Not this time, we still have games to go.
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Post by rhamz84 on Nov 5, 2011 20:41:23 GMT 8
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Post by jpesarza on Nov 5, 2011 20:59:42 GMT 8
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Post by rhamz84 on Nov 5, 2011 21:06:14 GMT 8
Thanks sa link, hindi lang pala basta ang myanmar.
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Post by jpesarza on Nov 5, 2011 21:13:32 GMT 8
Haha this is funny im confused now which one is Vietnam and which one's Myanmar, I have no audio feed with the link im using and both their flag have this BIG star logo. So im thinking that the one in white is Myanmar and the one in Red? is Vietnam. White's controlling the game since. Correction: 95% SURE Vietnam is in White and Myanmar in maroon or red (i can't tell). With that Vietnam's controlling the game pala, but Myanmar's Defense not breaking up. ;D
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Post by atlienace on Nov 5, 2011 21:19:27 GMT 8
... Dude i can't believe how judgmental you are, hope your children will not learn your way of creative thinking. ... Let's lay-off the personal attacks, please. We can argue back and forth what our opinions are about the team, the coach, and the game but let's stay away from getting personal. Anyway, it's very possible that there are underlying storylines that led to the recent team's performance but at the end of the day Weiss is the guy in charge. It always falls on the guy in charge. But youre right, we still have games left and we can root for the team still but that's not gonna stop people from having an opinion about the coach.
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Post by fadzki on Nov 5, 2011 21:19:29 GMT 8
Haha this is funny im confused now which one is Vietnam and which one's Myanmar, I have no audio feed with the link im using and both their flag have this BIG star logo. So im thinking that the one in white is Myanmar and the one in Red? is Vietnam. White's controlling the game since. Vietnam white, Myanmar red... ;D
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Post by jpesarza on Nov 5, 2011 21:24:24 GMT 8
Haha this is funny im confused now which one is Vietnam and which one's Myanmar, I have no audio feed with the link im using and both their flag have this BIG star logo. So im thinking that the one in white is Myanmar and the one in Red? is Vietnam. White's controlling the game since. Vietnam white, Myanmar red... ;D Totally mixed it all up ;D. Thanks man. *Dont know it it benefits us later if this game goes draw.
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Post by tombucho on Nov 5, 2011 21:40:45 GMT 8
to all those who criticize the team, the coach, the stategy, the formation etc, maybe before you criticize, wouldnt it be nice if you could introduce a little bit about yourself first in terms of football i.e how long have you played football or have you even coached a football team.. daming kasing maling dito eh.hehe...di ko alam kung sino ang tama or kung sino ang paniniwalaan. sa mga nababasa kong criticisms dito, parang ang dami yatang maling na football players sa pilipinas o di kaya mling na coach...
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Post by Wiking on Nov 5, 2011 21:48:50 GMT 8
YES, judging from his previous results and the latest results against Vietnam. Two different teams he handled, still the same results. Even if you will not watch the game, a simple overview of the game stats, you can easily discern that our left flank is ass-raped by the opponent. Why is he not doing anything? How would you explain that? Unless we would say that Weiss is best friend with other German coach and decided to drop the game so that the Vietnam coach would not get his ass fried. Then we would be slapped by Occam's razor. Never attribute to malice what can be attributed to plain stupidity. Not much are attacking/lashing the players here. Even Leonora, it's not his fault that he sucked so much on that side. The consensus here since the Singapore match is the coach is plain crappy. He doesn't have any tactical sense. Maybe the reason he was given for free by the DFB is because he can't find any coaching job in Germany. He can't even win a Sunday League game. Dude i can't believe how judgmental you are, hope your children will not learn your way of creative thinking. Cuz you know what? here's the thing you weren't in the actual game with the team, so how sure are you that Weiss did not realize the open flank as soon as the Viets focused their attacks on our LB? how sure are you that Weiss did not advise the boys to help defend the right wingers of Veits targeting our left flank? How about we consider that Weiss and the coaches did advise the boys but the boys just can't handle the obligation? (Oh that's a different thing, im not advising you to blame the kids but just think out of the box and just don't focus your blame onto one person alone--- cuz for goddesses sake it's a team game-- blast someone in times like this one is No Good for the team.) How about you just stop blaming the coach/manager for the team's sake. Just for the duration of this tourney. Cuz you know what this man you're lashing wants a win more than any of us here, he's not fighting maybe for this country but atleast he's fighting for his image and credibility as a coach. I am not saving Weiss' ass here, i am for the team. Just a lil respect for the guy that figured the improvement of the games of our Nationals. Respect man! Believe me, my vote is with you if you want to kick Weiss out. But save it for later. Not this time, we still have games to go. jpesarza, brother, below is what you wrote me on page 34 reply #499 when I asked you politely to stand down on your "stfu" comment on one of our fellow members. Now you include someone elses children in the equation. What ever happen to "...I am entitled to express..." and "I have rights"? Does it only apply to you, because, from what I read, vimjonk was just expressing himself, with the same rights you say everyone here has. page 34 reply#499 "I can call him whatever I want to call him since I have bases of my opinion as I am entitled as well to express it. Sorry if ive gone overboard on this one but that’s just me, careless I may be but I have rights like the rights you have to rebut my opinions to him."
Or does the rights you speak about only goes one way? Your way?
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Post by jpesarza on Nov 5, 2011 21:51:48 GMT 8
Update: Myanmar 0-0 Vietnam 71'
*Myanmar down to 10 men due to a red card but walls not giving up, Vietnam though is in control of the game.
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Post by sheajane80 on Nov 5, 2011 21:58:07 GMT 8
comparison of results of 2 teams with similar opponents in the sea games u23 football: Vietnam 3 - 1 Philippines TALO TAYO Vietnam 0 - 0 Myanmar DRAW
oh paano yan, are you going to give excuses for the kots again? it was myanmar's defense that made the draw possible. kung sasabihin niyong mas prepared ang vietnam sa atin, ganun din pag ikumpara sa myanmar na mas prepared pa rin ang vietnam.
i did say it was a winnable or at least drawable game had we played very defensively sa 2nd half. we were the weak team in terms of passing,keeping the ball etc etc i'd outright say we have no right to attack on our own terms trying to make our own opportunities. our attack should come from opportunities that came after good defending.
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