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Post by shanks608 on Nov 7, 2011 20:35:47 GMT 8
Muller Carli -- JVB -- Leonora -- Christaens Porteria-- JDJ -- Ott -- Clarino/ Drinkuth Beloya Valmayor I say no more experiments. We've got a real defender in Basa, give the kid a try instead of Strikers or mids playing out of position. Its 2 games now and my band wagon riding butt, can see that the Matt at CB experiment is not working. Carli'll be out next game too, so thats gonna be a big big hit for the team and defense. oh yeah! I totally forgot about Basa.. and Carli's gonna be a big loss.. Well i dunno whom to put at RB. but i'm definitely not impressed with Matt Hartmann at CB.. too slow.
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Post by tombucho on Nov 7, 2011 20:37:48 GMT 8
I'm still recovering from utter disbelief that we were beaten by Timor Leste by the same gameplan we executed during Suzuki Cup 2010. Hayyy... pardon me. Inasmuch I'd like to search for the bright side of the utcome of the game but I'll be hypocrite to say "OK lang yan". RI'm really disappointed, not to the players, but to the...you know who. Next time, I wish PFF would really invest in hiring a better coach for our National Team. Besides, ala nga naman puro si Mr. Palami lang ang mag-aabono para sa development ng Azkals. No wonder Mr. Palami does not have the choice but deal with the current coach which came for free/donation with the Bundesliga footbal aid. slayer, saan ang mali ng coach?? parinig nga ng explanation mo??? mukhang coach ka dati eh...
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Post by Wiking on Nov 7, 2011 21:02:29 GMT 8
I say no more experiments. We've got a real defender in Basa, give the kid a try instead of Strikers or mids playing out of position. Its 2 games now and my band wagon riding butt, can see that the Matt at CB experiment is not working. Carli'll be out next game too, so thats gonna be a big big hit for the team and defense. oh yeah! I totally forgot about Basa.. and Carli's gonna be a big loss.. Well i dunno whom to put at RB. but i'm definitely not impressed with Matt Hartmann at CB.. too slow. I dunno man, but this is what we get for having only 5 real DF's. Maybe Basa in place of Matt and move Matt to RB? I just don't know but really, putting a Mid and a Striker at LB today just didn't work out either. I taped the game and the first TL goal, Patrick Hinrichsen was step for step with the Timorese player, I just cant help thinking that if it was Leonora or even JdJ, they would've attempted a tackle already, as it turned out Patrick wasn't left behind but he didn't "defend" either. Man I don't know, its a debacle.
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Post by kraustria on Nov 7, 2011 21:03:49 GMT 8
dunno why matt hartman, instead of blocking the ball, seemed like avoided it by lowering his head when the timorese struck a few yards from the box. luckily muller was able to save it..it was clearly shown on the replays..
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Post by fahrenheit on Nov 7, 2011 21:09:40 GMT 8
he may ot want to commit the same mistake as what happened with their match against vietnam. but not a nice decission though.
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Post by Tiggy on Nov 7, 2011 21:09:45 GMT 8
dunno why matt hartman, instead of blocking the ball, seemed like avoided it by lowering his head when the timorese striked a few yards from the box. luckily muller was able to save it..it was clearly shown on the replays.. He probably presumed muller would save it. Well gotta check the replay later.
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Post by shanks608 on Nov 7, 2011 21:24:34 GMT 8
oh yeah! I totally forgot about Basa.. and Carli's gonna be a big loss.. Well i dunno whom to put at RB. but i'm definitely not impressed with Matt Hartmann at CB.. too slow. I dunno man, but this is what we get for having only 5 real DF's. Maybe Basa in place of Matt and move Matt to RB? I just don't know but really, putting a Mid and a Striker at LB today just didn't work out either. I taped the game and the first TL goal, Patrick Hinrichsen was step for step with the Timorese player, I just cant help thinking that if it was Leonora or even JdJ, they would've attempted a tackle already, as it turned out Patrick wasn't left behind but he didn't "defend" either. Man I don't know, its a debacle. That's why its really frustrating.. if Barbaso was there he could have subbed for Carli. I just thought about Christaens moving to LB because he was going really deep during the match and he had the speed and the skills to nullify the wingers breaking in our Left flank. well i just hope that whoever they replace can match those wingers. but we have another problem now since Carli can't play for the next match.. Frustrating!
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Post by shanks608 on Nov 7, 2011 21:35:43 GMT 8
dunno why matt hartman, instead of blocking the ball, seemed like avoided it by lowering his head when the timorese striked a few yards from the box. luckily muller was able to save it..it was clearly shown on the replays.. yeah! saw that too.. he ducked when the timorese player struck that ball.. the previous own goal from the vietnam match must have haunted him.. ;D that's why i find him ineffective as CB his defending skills are not that good and he's agonizingly slow.. I think he's better off at MF.
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Post by al luz812 on Nov 7, 2011 21:57:30 GMT 8
matt is much better sitting on the bench!!!!!!
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Post by slayermoonlight on Nov 7, 2011 22:13:02 GMT 8
I'm still recovering from utter disbelief that we were beaten by Timor Leste by the same gameplan we executed during Suzuki Cup 2010. Hayyy... pardon me. Inasmuch I'd like to search for the bright side of the utcome of the game but I'll be hypocrite to say "OK lang yan". RI'm really disappointed, not to the players, but to the...you know who. Next time, I wish PFF would really invest in hiring a better coach for our National Team. Besides, ala nga naman puro si Mr. Palami lang ang mag-aabono para sa development ng Azkals. No wonder Mr. Palami does not have the choice but deal with the current coach which came for free/donation with the Bundesliga footbal aid. slayer, saan ang mali ng coach?? parinig nga ng explanation mo??? mukhang coach ka dati eh... tombucho, Let me get this straight. In participating in this forum, we don't have to indulge who we are and what profession you're into. Discussions and game/post-game analysis are all welcome here as long the manner of expressing it here is civilized and not "puro ka-pilosopohan at pang-go." Freedom of speech comes with pro and cons. We cannot avoid the infestation of garbage posts which are by nature "pamimilosopo", "pang-go", derigatory, and racist/sexist which derails the quality of this forum. Hence, it's the responsibility of the Moderators to proactively do forum housekeeping. But as readers/posters, it's our own responsibility to discern and demodulate worthless posts from the factual, legitimate, and beneficial ones. In short, read and learn from beneficial post. Ignore the useless posts. Now going back to topic: I don't want to elaborate all the nitty-gritty details of what issues most of us here feel towards the current coach. There are tons of discussion as well as constuctive debates and criticisms (keyword: constructive) has been lay on the floor by some technical posters. Repeating it here is like plaigarism or copy-paste posting. Out of courtesy and acknowledgement to those few really good posters who took the burden of collating information and spent time writing those post, I suggest you read back the extensive discussion in the following threads: - World Cup Qualifier: Philippines-vs-Sri Lanka (away game) - World Cup Qualifier: Philippines-vs-Kuwait (away game) - Friendly game: Philppines-vs-Singapore - Long Teng Cup 2011 - Wiess vs Macca comparison If you are really interested to get well informed about the current state of the Azkals (it's up to you), then take time scanning those threads. I assume you just recently tuned here since you still asking what are the issues that needs to be address with regards to the current coach, where almost all regular posters and even the Mods are already aware of this. Issues like: - Player rotation/substitution (indirectly pertaining to the inability to trust bench players (subbing Araneta for Guirado @ Singapore friendly)
- Non-optimal player positioning i.e. fielding a natural midfielder in Center back (Matt Hartmann @ SEAG 2011) or an attacking midfielder as Left-back (Mulders @ WCG2011 Sri Lanka)
Now most of us saying that the team lacks cohesion and teamwork because the Fil-Fors just joined at the last minute. This is a known football fact that the Philippines will be relying on our Fil-For contigent. This is both our strength and weakness. To offset the weakness (Fil-Fors not having enough time to practice with others) the widely accepted solution is to field them in the same postion they play for in their respective international clubs. Meanwhile, the mainstays players should be the ones practicing playing together. In that way, the Fil-Fors that will supplement specific positions will only be requiring minor adjustments when playing against the mainstays.
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Post by slayermoonlight on Nov 7, 2011 22:20:09 GMT 8
Can anyone share the link for the replay of the Timor Lest match?
thanks
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Post by fadzki on Nov 7, 2011 22:30:50 GMT 8
FT: Laos 2 - 2 Brunei...
So were the only team in the group without a point... if we swept all the remaining games(Laos, Myanmar and Brunei) do we stand a chance in making it to the Semis...
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Post by Wiking on Nov 7, 2011 22:35:30 GMT 8
slayermoonlight, kudos to your most eloquent response. It seems some people would gladly give their opinion but cannot stand the thought of reading another persons differing opinion!? When joining a forum: "... agree to disagree" and everything will be alright.
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Post by slayermoonlight on Nov 7, 2011 23:02:26 GMT 8
slayermoonlight, kudos to your most eloquent response. It seems some people would gladly give their opinion but cannot stand the thought of reading another persons differing opinion!? When joining a forum: "... agree to disagree" and everything will be alright. And kudos to your wonderful updates on our Fil-Fors! I have no problem with differing opinions. Agree to Disagree. Then meet at the middle. Compromise. Those are just simple etiquettes in everyday's conversation with others. What I don't like are those forumers who are bastos, cheapshot, personalan kung umatake, atsaka yung mga insecure. Kaya nagkakagulo-gulo at nagkaka initan ng ulo dito sa forum kasi sa mga iilan na mahilig lang mamilosopo pero wala naman sasabihin or ma-cocontribute na matino post. Lalo na yung walang breeding kung magpost atsaka yung mga namemersonal. Nadadamay tuloy yung mga matitinong posters.
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Post by Wiking on Nov 7, 2011 23:26:40 GMT 8
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