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Post by stellarboy on Jun 25, 2013 9:00:44 GMT 8
PH booters’ SEAG stint looks dimBy June Navarro Philippine Daily Inquirer 10:01 pm | Monday, June 24th, 2013 THERE won’t be a football team to the Myanmar Southeast Asian Games this December if the country’s SEAG task force strictly follows its criteria of choosing only sure winners and potential gold medalists for the national delegation. “Inclusion to the delegation will be based on the criteria. The team has to pass the scrutiny of the task force,’’ said Philippine chef de mission Jeff Tamayo, who heads the task force along with Philippine Olympic Committee chair Tom Carrasco, sports commissioner Iggy Clavecilla and Romy Magat of tennis. Composed of under-23 players, the men’s team didn’t make it past the group stage during the 2011 SEA Games in Indonesia after losing four of its five elimination-round games. The Philippine Football Federation also wants to send the women’s team known as the Malditas and added it is ready to fund both squads with help from sponsors. Tamayo said he would like to see the Malditas compete in the 11-nation meet but the women’s team has no track record to speak of in the games. Aside from football, futsal is also uncertain of playing in the SEAG. The team lost its two preliminary games and failed to advance in the knockout stage in the 2011 SEAG. Read more: sports.inquirer.net/106407/ph-booters-seag-stint-looks-dim#ixzz2XBYX7d4p Follow us: @inquirerdotnet on Twitter | inquirerdotnet on Facebook
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Post by tipo on Jun 25, 2013 9:41:34 GMT 8
PH booters’ SEAG stint looks dim Tamayo said he would like to see the Malditas compete in the 11-nation meet but the women’s team has no track record to speak of in the games. Wow! basing on their "criteria", I guess we'll never going to see Malditas compete in SeaGames. EVER!  |
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Post by tipo on Jun 25, 2013 10:42:01 GMT 8
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Post by leoisiah on Jun 25, 2013 11:06:46 GMT 8
From what I know, even if POC does not include an athlete (or a team) to the SEAG delegation, the athlete or team may still join the SEAG, only that he or they will use their own money. If I remember it right, Richard Gomez (fencing) did this already. POC did not include Gomez in a SEAG delegation, but he insisted to join and used his own money.
Maybe the Godfathers of Philippine football can do the same?
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Post by stellarboy on Jun 25, 2013 11:52:51 GMT 8
From what I know, even if POC does not include an athlete (or a team) to the SEAG delegation, the athlete or team may still join the SEAG, only that he or they will use their own money. If I remember it right, Richard Gomez (fencing) did this already. POC did not include Gomez in a SEAG delegation, but he insisted to join and used his own money. Maybe the Godfathers of Philippine football can do the same? Yup, you just hit the nail on the head, leoisiah! That was the point I was looking for! Even if the POC won't include the PFF and its football teams in the official delegation, the PFF will have to go through this loophole and will still be able to join the games - with their own resources. |
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Post by benzgm on Jun 25, 2013 14:17:54 GMT 8
From what I know, even if POC does not include an athlete (or a team) to the SEAG delegation, the athlete or team may still join the SEAG, only that he or they will use their own money. If I remember it right, Richard Gomez (fencing) did this already. POC did not include Gomez in a SEAG delegation, but he insisted to join and used his own money. Maybe the Godfathers of Philippine football can do the same? Yup, you just hit the nail on the head, leoisiah! That was the point I was looking for! Even if the POC won't include the PFF and its football teams in the official delegation, the PFF will have to go through this loophole and will still be able to join the games - with their own resources. I think this would be possible only if the POC allows it, with the PFF being a member of the POC, as in the case of the previous games where the reason for trimming down the athletes was due to budget constraints. This time however, it's just not the budget but also the POC's "so called" protest. I'm with Limpag on this one, if we really do want to protest, then why join at all, send a token delegation but don't compete in any of the games, otherwise, choosing who to send smacks of downright bias and a put-down to those "not chosen" athletes as if saying they've already lost without even putting up a fight. |
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Post by narko on Jun 25, 2013 19:09:27 GMT 8
I think this would be possible only if the POC allows it, with the PFF being a member of the POC, as in the case of the previous games where the reason for trimming down the athletes was due to budget constraints. This time however, it's just not the budget but also the POC's "so called" protest. I'm with Limpag on this one, if we really do want to protest, then why join at all, send a token delegation but don't compete in any of the games, otherwise, choosing who to send smacks of downright bias and a put-down to those "not chosen" athletes as if saying they've already lost without even putting up a fight. benzgm, the last phrase in your post expresses very well a key aspect on this issue that is overlooked. Isn't sports and competing about building character? Isn't that the role of sports in national building, to develop our character as a nation and people, and to instill pride and unity? The message one gets out of this is that we only celebrate winners, only those who win deserve any attention or recognition. Perhaps it would do well to reflect on this following passage from a prayer we had to learn by heart in our alma mater: "Teach us to make our play in every game, whether in mere sports or life's mightier struggles, one where our desire to win is second only to our love of the game itself, where we triumph as considerate victors or lose with grace and determined will to win." Chief of Mission to the SEA Games Sir Jeff Tamayo knows that line very well, he served as an instructor and coach in our academy for many years and was a mentor to many. |
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Post by strikerbon on Jun 26, 2013 9:53:45 GMT 8
POC, PSC likely to turn down booters in RP team
Chance of the Philippine football team seeing action in the 27th Southeast Asian Games is bleak. This was relayed by SEA Games chief of mission Jeff Tamayo, stating that the performance of the men’s U-23 football team is not enough to qualify them for the biennial meet in Naypyidaw, Myanmar this December. He added that football — despite assurance that will be funded by a private firm headed by patron Dan Palami — has 20 members vying for a single gold medal. Same goes with the women’s team and the futsal team, which have a combined 33 additional members. In the 2011 SEA Games, the Nationals were beaten badly, winning only a game and were eliminated in the group stages. And in the current Fifa ranking, the national booters are third in the Southeast Asian region behind superpowers Vietnam and Thailand. Tamayo said football’s exclusion was already approved by the Philippine Sports Commission (PSC) and will be formally be elevated to the executive committee of the Philippine Olympic Committee (POC) either today or tomorrow before submitting the final number to the SEA Games organizers on Friday. “If you were to ask me, yes I would love to see them play in the SEA Games,” Tamayo said. “However, we have guidelines to follow. And our men’s football team didn’t meet the criteria, which is either gold or silver medal in the previous SEA Games and as a potential gold medalist this year. Too bad, they didn’t make it.” “We are trying to limit our contingent to 200 members. If we add men’s and women’s football, together with futsal, baka naman lumampas na tayo sa projected number.” Reports of a potential SEA Games snub do not sit well with the Philippine Football Federation, especially since the U-23 team has already been training and bracing for a possible rematch against the region’s powerhouse squads. In fact, the team already hired a foreign coach in Brian Reid to prepare it for the SEA Games. The 42-year-old Scottish mentor, who also calls the shots for Global in the United Football League, assumed the coaching chores after Michael Weiss led the youth squad two years ago. Palami, who also bankrolls the operational expenses of the Philippine Azkals, said football has been gaining momentum in the country and it will be a major blow if the team would not be allowed to compete. “If there’s a sport that we should not stop from joining, one of them is football because it’s already gaining momentum here,” the 43-year- old Palami said. “I see no reason why they should not be sending our football teams there.” With football expected to be axed, the 30-man dragonboat team and 16-man basketball squad remain as the only team sports which the SEA Games task force will recommend for inclusion in the biennial meet. Basketball, however, is still in question as Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas has yet to sit down with Tamayo’s group to formallywithdraw from the Games. SBP has until Thursday to express the commitment of the national cagers. www.tribune.net.ph/index.php/sports/item/15817-poc-psc-likely-to-turn-down-booters-in-rp-teamnow it's getting clearer that we won't be seeing our football teams, first they refused to allow us to play because they don't have the budget to support our team and since Palami has said that there's a private sector who would shoulder the expenses, now the POC making another reason, not allowing us because we're not capable of bringing a medal? it's really nonsense. what is the use of POC? they're the hindrance of the improvements of our athletes, as if we lost already without making a fight
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Post by bigfoot on Jun 26, 2013 13:06:23 GMT 8
On what grounds they base this decision ? How do they know the team can't get a medal ? To base this on the performance from 2 years ago is no excuse , the team at that time was just formed, had no preparation at all and -most important- was the youngest team in the competition .Most players where 19-20 and even younger .Now they all are more experienced, play in first teams or reserves, some of them even for the Azkals .
How can the team prove they have a chance ? Where does the team get his necessary games now ?
It's like catch 22 : you have to prove you are competitive but you can't play to prove it .
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Post by stellarboy on Jun 27, 2013 8:44:19 GMT 8
Football, futsal out of SEAG for goodBy June Navarro Philippine Daily Inquirer 11:41 pm | Wednesday, June 26th, 2013 The Philippine team to the Myanmar (Burma) Southeast Asian Games this December is down to 130 with the exclusion of football and futsal bets from an initial list of 200 athletes. Philippine chef de mission Jeff Tamayo yesterday said the latest figure was a result of a decision by Philippine Olympic Committee president Jose “Peping” Cojuangco Jr. and Philippine Sports Commission chair Richie Garcia to strictly follow the criteria that allows the inclusion of only the gold medalists in the previous SEA Games and potential gold performers in the national delegation to the Dec. 11-22 biennial meet. “They’re gone,” said Tamayo, referring to futsal and football, which wanted to send its men’s and women’s team even if it means funding its own participation. “Cong. Peping and chair Richie are really pushing for a small delegation. We’re now in the process of scrutinizing the list and include only those who are really worthy of going to Myanmar (Burma),” said the POC second vice president. Aside from individual athletes, Tamayo said only men’s basketball and the 30-man dragon boat squad passed the standard. Tamayo said Filipino athletes will now compete in 20 of the 33 sports (460 events) at the most with medal-rich events such as swimming and shooting failing to submit their candidate athletes. “We’re carefully evaluating who should go and who should stay. There will more be changes in the lineup as the SEA Games draws near,” said Tamayo, the soft tennis chief who heads the Philippine SEAG task force. Wushu and chess have earlier sent word that they’re skipping the games as a sign of protest against Burma organizers, who had blatantly removed several Olympic sports and put indigenous disciplines to beef up their chances of winning gold medals. They also added several events that Filipino athletes hardly know—14 in chess and seven in dragon boat apart from over 40 gold medals at stake in ethnic disciplines. Read more: sports.inquirer.net/106763/football-futsal-out-of-seag-for-good#ixzz2XNBD98V9 Follow us: @inquirerdotnet on Twitter | inquirerdotnet on Facebook
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Post by dingodile5 on Jun 27, 2013 9:03:48 GMT 8
Bad decision for the country, tsk tsk. They only include basketball and dragon boat for team sport >.<
PSC is too focused with sports that's capable of having a medal. How can we improve our other sports if they only focused on some such as basketball, dragon boat that's capable of bringing in medals?
PSC should be replaced and those people should be sacked. Sports politics ruled.
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Post by tabokanon on Jun 27, 2013 9:54:46 GMT 8
AMEN
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Post by strikerbon on Jun 27, 2013 10:19:59 GMT 8
can someone from PFF ask Pinoy for a help? this is the last desperate move we have. if we follow the POC's logic it's like that we won't see our U23 football team competing in SEA games anymore.
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Post by leoisiah on Jun 27, 2013 10:59:00 GMT 8
WOW, so POC won't allow the U-23 team to participate even if Palami and others shoulder all the expenses? But why? I don't see the point.
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Post by Caz on Jun 27, 2013 18:28:33 GMT 8
I'm fuming from this news! It makes no sense whatsoever for the PSC and POC to not allow the football teams from participating. They'll fund themselves and they choose not to "protest" and instead play for our country. The SEA Games is about more than a medal count. I hope there will be a loophole where the football teams can still participate because this is ridiculous and reeks of controversy.
Poor poor decision by the PSC and POC and this reflects horribly on their character.
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