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Post by butchok on Dec 11, 2014 21:34:02 GMT 8
All i can say is we need Coach Dooley for the Azkals and also we need our best players to play again for the Azkals(Patino, Schrock, Cagara, Etheridge)and convince Mike Ott, Kevin Ingreso, Stephan Palla and Yuji Takahashi to play for the Azkals. So it's up to Dan palami to make that reunion. Dooley's good system + best Azkals player = AFC SUZUKI CUP Champion, Asian Cup Stint and maybe not impossible World Cup stint Dooley's system on minimizing over-reliance of overseas Azkals, I believed is sustainable in the long run... Amnani, Sato and Deyto are living testament to this iniatiative... I guess maximum of three overseas players is enough....
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Post by butchok on Dec 11, 2014 21:35:46 GMT 8
Vietnam needs to score 2 goals against nil with Thailand in the second half to salvage their quest for title...
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Post by narko on Dec 11, 2014 22:06:37 GMT 8
Vietnam's exit only shows the beauty of football. In front of their home crowd with a 2-1 aggregate lead over Malaysia on away goals at that, and they squander it all in the first 45 minutes. It's not to say Malaysia was a better team, Vietnam was the better team in the first leg. But in the first 45 minutes of this second leg Malaysia was the better team. In the second half Malaysia didn't even bother to attack with purpose, just hoping to ride out the Vietnamese storm that followed and they did.
Can't help thinking about about our match against Thailand. Malaysia took good advantage of the 45 minutes they had when things went their way against Vietnam and turned the tie around despite being the lesser team in the other three halves of play against Vietnam in their two-legged tie. On the other hand, we failed to capitalize on our first leg against Thailand where we did pretty well against a strong team, especially the 20 minutes where we had a man advantage over them. Well, that's just how it is in football.
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Post by lurker on Dec 11, 2014 22:14:05 GMT 8
The best available players for each position should be called up. While there may have been over-reliance under Coach Weiss, I think it is still necessary to rely on overseas players and placing a maximum will not allow us to field the strongest team. While Coach Dooley should call the shots, I think he went too far in publicly lambasting certain players. It would make it more difficult for them to accept the new system without losing face. All i can say is we need Coach Dooley for the Azkals and also we need our best players to play again for the Azkals(Patino, Schrock, Cagara, Etheridge)and convince Mike Ott, Kevin Ingreso, Stephan Palla and Yuji Takahashi to play for the Azkals. So it's up to Dan palami to make that reunion. Dooley's good system + best Azkals player = AFC SUZUKI CUP Champion, Asian Cup Stint and maybe not impossible World Cup stint Dooley's system on minimizing over-reliance of overseas Azkals, I believed is sustainable in the long run... Amnani, Sato and Deyto are living testament to this iniatiative... I guess maximum of three overseas players is enough....
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Post by cjeagle on Dec 11, 2014 22:57:14 GMT 8
Someone in bigsoccer(an Iranian) is saying that the Vietnamese players have rigged the match, claiming that the goalkeeper in particular has a long history of matchfixing. Considering Vietnam's previous results, he might have a point.
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Post by xyz1000 on Dec 12, 2014 1:54:17 GMT 8
This is the one beef I have with Coach Dooley. Calling out the players in public, showing off the dirty laundry in front of the media -- these are not model actions of a head coach. In the Philippines, especially, where saving face is critical in all relationships, good or bad. Yes, the players are still Filipinos after all. I'm still in favor of Dooley as head coach, but he should work on his relationships and in handling the media. Good organization, development of local players, good to reasonable strategy. He still makes for a good coach. The best available players for each position should be called up. While there may have been over-reliance under Coach Weiss, I think it is still necessary to rely on overseas players and placing a maximum will not allow us to field the strongest team. While Coach Dooley should call the shots, I think he went too far in publicly lambasting certain players. It would make it more difficult for them to accept the new system without losing face. Dooley's system on minimizing over-reliance of overseas Azkals, I believed is sustainable in the long run... Amnani, Sato and Deyto are living testament to this iniatiative... I guess maximum of three overseas players is enough....
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Post by cjeagle on Dec 12, 2014 2:02:06 GMT 8
All i can say is we need Coach Dooley for the Azkals and also we need our best players to play again for the Azkals(Patino, Schrock, Cagara, Etheridge)and convince Mike Ott, Kevin Ingreso, Stephan Palla and Yuji Takahashi to play for the Azkals. So it's up to Dan palami to make that reunion. Dooley's good system + best Azkals player = AFC SUZUKI CUP Champion, Asian Cup Stint and maybe not impossible World Cup stint Dooley's system on minimizing over-reliance of overseas Azkals, I believed is sustainable in the long run... Amnani, Sato and Deyto are living testament to this iniatiative... I guess maximum of three overseas players is enough.... We are not at a point yet, where we could place a limit in the number of players we recruit from abroad. When it comes to the men's team, I believe the best available players should be called up. These are the kind of players that draw fans, sells tickets, add sponsors and gain us respect from other nations. Otherwise, rather than facing the likes of Canada or New Zealand in future friendlies, our team might end up being relegated to playing Timor Leste, Brunei, Mongolia and similarly ranked countries. Football will soon lose steam in our country, lose their TV contracts, media coverage and sponsors, and be relegated to being a footnote in the national sports scene just like before, if we end up being ranked with the minnows again. Dooley knows this, and has stated that we need our foreign trained countrymen to help reinforce the team. He said that until we have a professional league that can regularly churn out international caliber players on a consistent basis, we will need our diaspora to help us become competitive. Having said that, we could see that he is doing his part in training our homegrown talent on the national team to become better players, with the likes of Amani Aguinaldo continuing to improve every time we watch him play, which doesn't surprise me one bit, considering Dooley's reputation as a teacher here in the US.
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Post by paulino19 on Dec 12, 2014 6:19:19 GMT 8
Dooley has done a good job of bringing together the local players and players from abroad. It's a nice mix.
Dear PFF:
GET OUT OF MANILA! YOU ARE WASTING YOUR TIME AND MONEY THERE! WALA NA! LINTIK!
YOU ARE BEGGING PEOPLE THERE TO ATTEND MATCHES. YOU SETTLE DOWN IN THE BISAYAS, AND YOU WILL NEVER HAVE TO BEG AGAIN. FORGET ABOUT LOGISTICS!
THINK ABOUT THE EMPTY RIZAL STADIUM!
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Post by cilantro on Dec 12, 2014 9:30:58 GMT 8
i'd have to agree w/ the post above. it's time to refurbish and modify the pitches and stadia to the fifa standards down there in the visayas. siguradong patok sa takilya ang football doon hindi tulad dito sa manila na nilalangaw. besides, watching football in the visayas would be a good excuse to embark on a little side trip to the beautiful beaches there and have some r & r w/ the gang
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Post by random on Dec 12, 2014 17:44:38 GMT 8
My thoughts on our last match:
- that early 6th minute goal totally ruined our composure and gameplan, what with the huge crowd already making our players visibly unsettled even from the start of the match.
- for once I can't assign any blame to Amani Aguinaldo in this match, in fact this was his best game of the tournament IMHO. If not for him, it could easily have been 5-0 or even 6-0.
- Deyto, on the other hand, well, he just demonstrated again why he should be the 3rd-choice GK. I can't blame him for the 1st goal, the incoming ball was obscured from his view by Gier and Mulders, unlike in the 1st Vietnam goal, where there was no one in front of him to block his view of the incoming strike from outside the box. For the 2nd goal, well, he doesn't play like a sweeper-keeper, so being caught in no man's land once again wasn't a surprise, just like in the 2nd Vietnam goal. He's not to blame though, Rota was the last man, and he wasn't in a position to give a foul by that time (Penalty and possible red-card even). The 3rd goal , well, that's the consequence of throwing men forward trying to stay in the game.
- I dunno if Sato got bribed to play that badly, it was right for Dooley to replace him as early as that point since he was a yellow-card away from getting dismissed. I think Sato was frustrated right from the start that he couldn't keep up with the fast Vietnamese winger, and he had to resort to overly physical fouls just to prevent the Viet player from getting past him.
- Mannny Ott was also ineffective and missing in action for most of the match, and kept losing the ball even if not under pressure. Like Sato, he didn't play like that in the earlier matches. He was even dominating the midfield in the 1st leg of the semis.
- We made Thailand look really good. To think that team routinely gets beaten by Japan, Korea and the MidEast teams. Just goes to show how much we still need to do.
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Post by butchok on Dec 12, 2014 18:31:27 GMT 8
i'd have to agree w/ the post above. it's time to refurbish and modify the pitches and stadia to the fifa standards down there in the visayas. siguradong patok sa takilya ang football doon hindi tulad dito sa manila na nilalangaw. besides, watching football in the visayas would be a good excuse to embark on a little side trip to the beautiful beaches there and have some r & r w/ the gang Build a stadium within 20-30 miles radius off Boracay, it will be a sell-out every match.
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Post by butchok on Dec 12, 2014 18:54:16 GMT 8
Well, fielding the best players in each position then just forget Cagara at LB since Sato fares better than him. .. Sato is always there available in every call-ups.... Show Etheridge the door since Muller keeps the post more effectively... Plays regular football every week while Neil lingers on the bench.... Muller have cordial relationship with Dooley whereas Neil is having conflict with the coach... Rota, Aguinaldo, Steuble, Manny Ott, PYH are locks in their respective positions... Reichelt is a utility player needed to come as sub and added sparkplug midway matches. ... Silva will take other CB spot to partner with Amani... How about Gier? For all of what he has done for us he deserves some respectable exit, his legs are slower... Moreover, logistics-wise as he is based overseas it's not fair anymore for him, his family and Azkals' management to fly him over to PHL.... How about Juani? They can keep him but as he cannot longer cope with full 90 minutes physically. He is better off as a reliever if something happen to Silva or Amani.
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Post by jonny on Dec 12, 2014 18:58:07 GMT 8
Why did not Roland Muller play in AFF Suzuki Cup semifinals ? His club is having winter season break now and will not play before February.
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Post by cjeagle on Dec 12, 2014 19:09:38 GMT 8
Why did not Roland Muller play in AFF Suzuki Cup semifinals ? His club is having winter season break now and will not play before February. He wasn't included in the final 21 man roster sent to the AFF, jonny. I think the 22nd spot was reserved for Silva, but his passport didn't come through in time.
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Post by jonny on Dec 12, 2014 19:11:02 GMT 8
Why did not Roland Muller play in AFF Suzuki Cup semifinals ? His club is having winter season break now and will not play before February. He wasn't included in the final 21 man roster jonny. Why was it just a 21 man roster , when all other teams had 22 ? And why was he not included ?
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