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Post by cjeagle on Dec 12, 2014 19:16:01 GMT 8
He wasn't included in the final 21 man roster jonny. Why was it just a 21 man roster , when all other teams had 22 ? And why was he not included ? As I said, 22nd spot was reserved for Silva, but passport did not arrive in time, forcing them to leave it blank. Personally, I would have included Mueller in the list ahead of Villanueva who was was never used. Maybe they didn't expect Mueller to become available so soon.
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Post by butchok on Dec 12, 2014 21:35:03 GMT 8
Back to Juani. I think he is indispensable. Aside from experience, he is the one who is the bridge between the management and fellow Spanish plAyers Silva and Patino... Well, it's not bad to have another Spanish player who is close to said players... If you want to keep Patino and Silva happpy and at home with Azkals stick with Juani ... Besides unlike Gier, Juani is locally based at the moment so travel and logistics Palami can save some dimes..... Patino is of course a definite starter. If available, he can be the cornerstone of Azkals' offensive plays in the future matches particularly next year WC qualifying matches. With PYH to slip behind him up the front.
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Post by butchok on Dec 12, 2014 22:55:01 GMT 8
In defensive midfield, the gap in skills between Manny Ott and Jerry Lucena is close. But with age and ready- availability, if i have to pick one i'll go with Manny Ott... Same predicament in LB position on Sato- Cagara delimna. ... But if Muller or Etheridge is not available i'll have phone up Lucena as we have to commit more men in defense than the usual back 4 if our keeper is Deyto...
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Post by butchok on Dec 12, 2014 23:04:22 GMT 8
Among those players who has fallen out with Dooley, I believed reconciliation with Schrocky is at utmost importance....Both Cagara and Etheridge are replaceable but Schrocky's talent is well above the rest of Azkals. .. He is tough, played with a swagger and can't be intimadated... On top of that he is a crowd drawer many of my friends in PHL could have attended the 1st leg against Thailand if Schrocky has played for us. Most of my mates are Schrocky fans... Methinks, if he played for Azkals against Thailand in second leg, the psyche and mentality of the team could have been different... So, left winger position belongs to him...
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Post by butchok on Dec 12, 2014 23:08:17 GMT 8
Attacking midfield is a close call between Mulders and Reichelt. Skill set is almost the same level and both are local - based . As I prefer Reichelt to be a supersub. I'll reward this position to Mulders.
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Post by kuo24 on Dec 12, 2014 23:09:05 GMT 8
Agree with butchok's statement about Schrock's importance. Can't really say that Misagh has staked a claim to that left wing position in Schrock's absence.
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Post by butchok on Dec 12, 2014 23:52:30 GMT 8
In perfect world or if all players in my wish list are available and barring any injuries: these 11 I believed is the strongest in each position :
GK : Muller
LB : Sato
CB: Silva
CB:Amani
RB: Rota
DMF/ CMF : Manny Ott
RW : Steuble
LW : Schrocky
AMF : Mulders
SS : PYH
CF : Patino
Subs : Reichelt, Juani
Etheridge will be a bonus if available
Mike Ott ( we need to test him once again and besides we need a third striker after Patino and PYH)
Young guns like Porteria, Mark Hartmann, Daniels, Dizon
Deyto of course
All other are fillers.
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Post by paulino19 on Dec 14, 2014 3:53:19 GMT 8
Agree with butchok's statement about Schrock's importance. Can't really say that Misagh has staked a claim to that left wing position in Schrock's absence. In Dooley's press conference responding to Schrock's exit, he said that Schrock can't play tactical football, which is why he never made it in the Bundesliga. He also said that he told Schrock to play a specific way given his position towards the end of the Challenge Cup, and Schrocky didn't do it all. He said either Schrocky didn't understand or just didn't want to. If Schrock even thinks about coming back to the Azkals, he would have to "beg" Dooley. It would not be the other way around. I've been using "beg" lately because it's a term that applies to the national team. "Begging" people to watch the biggest football tournament in Southeast Asia, and renegade players "begging" the Gaffer to come back and play, if they want to continue their international careers. "Begging" for financial backing. A lot of "begging."
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Post by faridoon on Dec 14, 2014 7:09:38 GMT 8
Agree with butchok's statement about Schrock's importance. Can't really say that Misagh has staked a claim to that left wing position in Schrock's absence. In Dooley's press conference responding to Schrock's exit, he said that Schrock can't play tactical football, which is why he never made it in the Bundesliga. He also said that he told Schrock to play a specific way given his position towards the end of the Challenge Cup, and Schrocky didn't do it all. He said either Schrocky didn't understand or just didn't want to. If Schrock even thinks about coming back to the Azkals, he would have to "beg" Dooley. It would not be the other way around. I've been using "beg" lately because it's a term that applies to the national team. "Begging" people to watch the biggest football tournament in Southeast Asia, and renegade players "begging" the Gaffer to come back and play, if they want to continue their international careers. "Begging" for financial backing. A lot of "begging." Coming from Thomas Dooley whose only experience as head coach for FC Saarbrücken in 2002 playing in Regionalliga Süd and was a 3rd tier of the German football league system of that time..
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Post by xyz1000 on Dec 14, 2014 8:02:06 GMT 8
In terms of defense, the 2010 back five of Etheridge, Gier, Jonsson, Borromeo, and del Rosario sets the standard. Unfortunately, none of the following teams have exceeded what they did in the Suzuki Cup semifinals. Yes, they were slow, but they worked in coordination. Look at the goal against Rota where a few steps forward would've caught the Thai player in an offside trap. In the first goal, I think it was Sato (I can't tell) that was badly beaten in marking his man who headed the ball from a set piece into the center of the box where a Thai player was waiting. That a very good Indonesia team was able to score only one goal in each of those semifinal games is a testament to the solid defensive back five. Neil was fantastic, and the other four worked very well in coordination. Had it not been for what looked like a rare miscommunication between Etheridge and Jonsson, the total Indonesia goals would've been one instead of two.
I just hope that Dooley develops a solid defense as well as continue the progress we've done in terms of offense and possession ball.
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Post by jornutzon on Dec 14, 2014 13:09:08 GMT 8
In Dooley's press conference responding to Schrock's exit, he said that Schrock can't play tactical football, which is why he never made it in the Bundesliga. He also said that he told Schrock to play a specific way given his position towards the end of the Challenge Cup, and Schrocky didn't do it all. He said either Schrocky didn't understand or just didn't want to. If Schrock even thinks about coming back to the Azkals, he would have to "beg" Dooley. It would not be the other way around. I've been using "beg" lately because it's a term that applies to the national team. "Begging" people to watch the biggest football tournament in Southeast Asia, and renegade players "begging" the Gaffer to come back and play, if they want to continue their international careers. "Begging" for financial backing. A lot of "begging." Coming from Thomas Dooley whose only experience as head coach for FC Saarbrücken in 2002 playing in Regionalliga Süd and was a 3rd tier of the German football league system of that time.. So just because Dooley is a low-tier FC coach, he isn't qualified to criticize Schrock?
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Post by cjeagle on Dec 14, 2014 16:14:24 GMT 8
In Dooley's press conference responding to Schrock's exit, he said that Schrock can't play tactical football, which is why he never made it in the Bundesliga. He also said that he told Schrock to play a specific way given his position towards the end of the Challenge Cup, and Schrocky didn't do it all. He said either Schrocky didn't understand or just didn't want to. If Schrock even thinks about coming back to the Azkals, he would have to "beg" Dooley. It would not be the other way around. I've been using "beg" lately because it's a term that applies to the national team. "Begging" people to watch the biggest football tournament in Southeast Asia, and renegade players "begging" the Gaffer to come back and play, if they want to continue their international careers. "Begging" for financial backing. A lot of "begging." Coming from Thomas Dooley whose only experience as head coach for FC Saarbrücken in 2002 playing in Regionalliga Süd and was a 3rd tier of the German football league system of that time.. That makes Dooley better off than his mentor Jurgen Klinsmann, who took over as manager of the German national team in 2004, right after his retirement as a player a year earlier, without having the benefit of managing before. He led Germany to 3rd place in the 2006 World Cup which of course silenced all his critics who were criticizing his attacking style of play, which they continue to use today under Coach Joachim Löw. The team's strong performance is thought by some to have renewed national pride and restored Germany's reputation as a top footballing nation. Due to his success coaching the national team, Klinsmann was awarded the Bundesverdienstkreuz.
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Post by faridoon on Dec 14, 2014 18:27:34 GMT 8
Coming from Thomas Dooley whose only experience as head coach for FC Saarbrücken in 2002 playing in Regionalliga Süd and was a 3rd tier of the German football league system of that time.. So just because Dooley is a low-tier FC coach, he isn't qualified to criticize Schrock? In Dooley's press conference responding to Schrock's exit, he said that Schrock can't play tactical football, which is why he never made it in the Bundesliga.That is a low blow!!!He helped his club Greuther Furth in promotion to Bundesliga. Stephan Schrock played for the Azkals because he is a Filipino and he loves the Philippines while Thomas Dooley is only here for the job. "Manalo matalo ang Azkals Filipino parin si Stephan Schrock but si Thomas Dooley ay pwedeng palitan". A good coach should talk to his player privately if there is some misunderstanding. Dooley is belittling Stephan because as a player he is by miles had a better achievements than Stephan but he is now talking as a coach not as a player and his achievements as a coach or manager is not that impressive, and he said that Schrock can't play tactical football??? Stephan is a Filipino and he is the best Azkals player right now.
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Post by cheezewhiz on Dec 14, 2014 18:43:03 GMT 8
^I feel you, none of the people here understand that... We can change the coach but we cannot change Stephan Shrock because HE IS A FILIPINO.
I want Thomas Dooley to stay to put a system and a culture of Filipino Football just like Germany (attacking style) and Spain (Possession style) although looks like Germany is adapting to more possession style (under Pep Guardiola) of footballing plus very fluid and efficient attacking system.
PFF, Dan Palami and most especially Coach TD must reconcile with Schrock, he is still young and can provide us more attacking options.
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Post by Caz on Dec 14, 2014 22:40:34 GMT 8
I'm not saying that Dooley's words against Schröck were the best ones he could have chosen to use, but if I remember right they were done as a response. When Schrock first announced that he was taking a break from the Azkals, he kept his reasons private and Dooley kept his opinions to himself as well. We all thought he wanted to focus on his professional career which most of us understood quite well. The PFF, Palami's group, and Schrock appeared to want to keep things quiet. Then Schrock, under the unfortunate pressure he got on social media, said some negative stuff about Dooley and then Cagara did the bonkers thing of agreeing with him on Twitter. Etheridge initially tweeted that he felt disrespected for not being selected but later on deleted that tweet. Then there was that German interview where it seemed like Schrock blatantly insulted the national team as a whole, players, staff, and all (I say seemed because I'm taking translation issues into consideration). So Dooley understandably, though perhaps just as unwisely, retaliated in a press conference. Don't get me wrong, I would love to see our best players back in Azkals kits. But placing the blame fully on Dooley isn't fair. The players made their mistakes too. However, with World Cup qualifying coming up we will need our best XI on the pitch. So actions leading to reconciliation should be considered if we want to perform reasonably well.
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