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Post by random on Nov 25, 2012 19:00:51 GMT 8
To be honest, Teerasil might be a great player but for me, he's still not Premier League material. IMO, the only reason why Manchester City Signed him before is that, Thaksin Shinawatra was ManCity's owner back then. Teerasil is too small and slim for the EPL. That would be like Japeth Aguilar applying as *power forward* in the NBA. And same result.
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Post by random on Nov 25, 2012 19:52:45 GMT 8
Nakahipo man lang ba ng bola si Lucena the whole match? It seems he is the only one among those who played the full 90 that seemed invisible the whole match. I don't know if that's good or bad. I don't remember any significant play that involved him. The back 4 kept bypassing him, the DM, by quickly hoofing those long balls anytime a Thai player got near. On defense the fast Thai wingers just blew past him majority of the time. But he did contribute on defense especially against free kicks and corners.
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Post by badleftfoot on Nov 25, 2012 21:08:32 GMT 8
Mga kabayan, mainit lang siguro ulo natin dahil natalo tayo kanina ... at ok lang yan ... normal reaction sa mga supporters ... Pero, sa tingin ko, the score was justified ... since the azkals have gone up, this is the first time we played the "kicking" thais ... ok talo tayo ngayon ... next lang kayo ... next game natin, vietnam ... i am looking forward to a meaner azkals ... gamewise today... here's my view: gk - ed played about 5.5 to about 6 on 1-10 rating at 10 highest. back 4 - juani I only noticed after getting the elbow; jonsson was his usual work rate, no I cannot replace hime with anyone; rob gier frankly not much seen of him; cagara was VERY SOLID. Holding Mid - lucena was good; mulders was at his very efficient work rate; wings - chieffy showed his age; sub christaens should be starting. JYH should be starting if not complaining too much; forwards - angel dribbles/holds the ball too much-quicker on the release should make it quicker for the team to move forward; PYH - quality still there, butI wonder if toomuch marking makes sense for himto sub in and change the game the way he has been played in singapore and other games. Subs - christaens played solidly and has argument to start in place of chieffy; marwin - no difference against PYH to me; angel off might be better; reichelt - VERY strong argument to start. Go Azkals - beat Vietnam!!! Nope. Jonsson is replaceable with Omphroy or De Murga at right back. first of all, he is more comfy at the left back yeah? and, the latter players will perform better at that position. i dont trust jonsson not even a penny at our defense line. Kabayan ... I do not disagree with you about jonsson being replaceable. Anyone, in fact, is replaceable, and the good part is we now have more to choose from. Having said this, you know when you are managing/coaching, you have to play what you have. DiMu and Omph are NOT fit. Don't trust jonsson a penny on defense? That is a harsh judgement in my opinion. He has been a mainstay on the back 4 for many an azkals battle, i really don't understand this dishing. I hope you are not saying that jonsson caused ALL the goals given up the azkals.
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Post by hat3trick on Nov 25, 2012 21:21:05 GMT 8
Jonsson did a Good Job vs Thailand but age I Think is a factor during the stretch, De Murga can be a sub or Demit at the 60th or 75th Min for Jonsson since his natural position is occupied by Cagara. Jonsson is more effective on his natural position and some says that he is always going for Long Balls it is because his stronger Foot is always free to do that when he is playing on the Right.
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Post by rhamz84 on Nov 26, 2012 11:01:44 GMT 8
Thailand [2] vs [1] Philippines: AFF Suzuki Cup 2012 Highlights
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Post by narko on Nov 26, 2012 11:38:52 GMT 8
Thailand was clearly the better team. There was no need for silly antics but it is what it is. The officiating was questionable but can't really do anything but respect it. Thailand busted two of our players open, blood gushing from their faces, with no red card? Come on now. Anyways, time to regroup and move on. I missed the spark from Wolf's energetic play and Omphroy's pace would have helped too. I thought Jonsson did better than I thought he would but he really seemed out of his comfort zone. De Murga or Omphroy could have made a bit of difference. We lost FIFA points due to Thailand being ranked lower. We've gotta win the next two. Caz, I agree with you that the officiating was questionable but I disagree with you that we should respect it. We can accept it, but we don't have to respect the decisions or even the referee. He should have controlled the match better. Two of our players with cuts on their faces, Lucena almost knocked out and same would have happened to Cagara if he didn't roll over the Thai who was trying to place his knee behind his neck or head. As for the match and the Thais, I'm with marselluswallace. The Thais deserved to win, they were the better team but the rough housing was deplorable. Time wasting, diving, nipping the ankles, body checks, that's par for the course, I can accept that. Even elbows to the ribs or the body borderline acceptable, but throwing elbows towards the face? Jumping knee strikes to the back of the head or neck? Too cowardly to win the match purely on the merits of their skills and better teamwork. So yes, I won't begrudge them their win and their 3 points, but they don't have my respect. Anyway, this match is past. Hopefully, lessons were learned and adjustments will be made. Chances of progressing still exist, so on to Vietnam.
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Post by jofre10 on Nov 26, 2012 12:17:10 GMT 8
if we meet again on the finals, we will show to MUAY THAI ACTORS kung ano ang mga kalahi ni MANNY PACQUIAO.
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Post by thiscrazyloveofmie on Nov 26, 2012 13:11:24 GMT 8
The final score flattered us. It did not reflect the Thais' domination of the match. I think it was a mistake to start Angel and Jonsson. Angel hasn't been playing much with the team recently and this showed on the pitch. With Jonsson, he did okay defensively, but again like in the recent friendlies, he showed no chemistry with whoever's in front of him. I also hated it that he pretty much always go for the long ball whenever he has the ball. That number 19 of Thailand is a dirty player. He also mistimes most of his tackle. His tackle on Lucena in the first half could have been a leg breaker. Also, didn't they show 5 minutes to be added? Then why was the match stopped in the 94th minute? Hi Everyone! Havent visited this forum in a while but here I am and glad to be back. Jonsson plays in the Icelandic League that using long ball tactics. He is also a natural LB who was playing out of position in RB. So, easy-easy lang tayo sa criticism sa kanya. His sliding tackles were good, except for that sliding tackle that he missed that allowed the Thai striker to round him, and round Sacapano for the 2nd goal. But I wouldnt place the blame on Jonsson. Angel needs support up front. Good first touch, and has the height and heft to hold the ball up. If only his team mates were quick enough to link up with him. Looking forward to the next game against Vietnam. Lets go!!!!
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Post by thiscrazyloveofmie on Nov 26, 2012 13:14:49 GMT 8
Jonsson did a Good Job vs Thailand but age I Think is a factor during the stretch, De Murga can be a sub or Demit at the 60th or 75th Min for Jonsson since his natural position is occupied by Cagara. Jonsson is more effective on his natural position and some says that he is always going for Long Balls it is because his stronger Foot is always free to do that when he is playing on the Right. Maybe Jonsson can come in as a sub for Caligdong in the 12th minute of the first half. Cagara will take the place of Caligdong in LM, Jonsson in LB. Carli, or Demit in RB and Reichelt on RM.
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Post by thiscrazyloveofmie on Nov 26, 2012 13:29:37 GMT 8
Hi
Gelling and chemistry is not really needed in an NT football. What is needed is a good coach who understands his players strengths and weaknesses and will employ tactics to take advantage of this knowledge.
European and Brazilian NT only gets their top players 1 week before a tournament but still they do well. No problems of communication, chemistry.
Weiss should also stop putting players out of position.
That is all for now.
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Post by rhamz84 on Nov 26, 2012 14:17:06 GMT 8
Hi Gelling and chemistry is not really needed in an NT football. What is needed is a good coach who understands his players strengths and weaknesses and will employ tactics to take advantage of this knowledge. European and Brazilian NT only gets their top players 1 week before a tournament but still they do well. No problems of communication, chemistry. Weiss should also stop putting players out of position. That is all for now. Unfortunately we still don't have it, unless the PFF would shell out some extra money for it.
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Post by xclentoy on Nov 27, 2012 0:20:37 GMT 8
Hi Gelling and chemistry is not really needed in an NT football. What is needed is a good coach who understands his players strengths and weaknesses and will employ tactics to take advantage of this knowledge. European and Brazilian NT only gets their top players 1 week before a tournament but still they do well. No problems of communication, chemistry. Weiss should also stop putting players out of position. That is all for now. I agree with you except the chemistry part. These NT have been playing together since they were U-12 or maybe younger. They also have a system in place already where they can just sub an aging guy for a younger one. Rinse and repeat.
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Post by Caz on Nov 27, 2012 0:39:13 GMT 8
Thailand was clearly the better team. There was no need for silly antics but it is what it is. The officiating was questionable but can't really do anything but respect it. Thailand busted two of our players open, blood gushing from their faces, with no red card? Come on now. Anyways, time to regroup and move on. I missed the spark from Wolf's energetic play and Omphroy's pace would have helped too. I thought Jonsson did better than I thought he would but he really seemed out of his comfort zone. De Murga or Omphroy could have made a bit of difference. We lost FIFA points due to Thailand being ranked lower. We've gotta win the next two. Caz, I agree with you that the officiating was questionable but I disagree with you that we should respect it. We can accept it, but we don't have to respect the decisions or even the referee. He should have controlled the match better. Two of our players with cuts on their faces, Lucena almost knocked out and same would have happened to Cagara if he didn't roll over the Thai who was trying to place his knee behind his neck or head. As for the match and the Thais, I'm with marselluswallace. The Thais deserved to win, they were the better team but the rough housing was deplorable. Time wasting, diving, nipping the ankles, body checks, that's par for the course, I can accept that. Even elbows to the ribs or the body borderline acceptable, but throwing elbows towards the face? Jumping knee strikes to the back of the head or neck? Too cowardly to win the match purely on the merits of their skills and better teamwork. So yes, I won't begrudge them their win and their 3 points, but they don't have my respect. Anyway, this match is past. Hopefully, lessons were learned and adjustments will be made. Chances of progressing still exist, so on to Vietnam. I agree with you 100% and you worded my thoughts better than I did. Indeed, "accepting" the officiating was more in my line of thinking than "respecting" it. Well, on to Vietnam.
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Post by azkal14 on Nov 27, 2012 11:11:28 GMT 8
here is the full match of the the game if anyone wants to see it and all other games are on the same channel of the affsuzukicup
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